I did. Light became super low iq and had huge oversights at the end which led to his demise. The writers did this with the intention of enforcing the character trope that the antagonist always looses. The ending was simply rushed.
You believe him
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Light isn't the antagonist, the antagonist won, and Light, the protagonist, lost.
naur, he just placed too much trust in miakmi and got outplayed by near. You act like he lost to a retard.
Fun fact the entire part after L died wasn't even planned. The writer of the manga initially wanted to end the manga when L died. But the manga publishers wanted him to continue and make more money. So we got the mid part after L's death. The ending feels weird and rushed, because the writer was forced to keep writing.
It was mostly Mello putting Light in a tight spot that led to Mikami slipping up tbh. Near and Mello could not do shit to Light on their own. So they teamed up without even knowing lol.
No, you werent at all@ChadL1te ha, I was right
You said the writers gave this ending because they wanted to sustain the idea of bad guys losing and good guys winning. mirin iq
highly subjective claim. Capital penalty is widely debated, there isn't really a widely agreed upon morally superior
it was ultimately his plan, Miakmi was meant to be used as a pawn, Light's failure was purely on him imo.
if light defeated L, and near was L's apprentice, it's pretty unlikely that he was so easily outplayed.
misspoke, just replace antagonist with villain I guess.No, you werent at all
You literally thought light was the antagonist
Yeah sure, i was associating that with 'good vs bad guys'
I see your point but this was because light's task was WAYYY easier compared to L's. L for one knew he was guilty for a while but had the harder task of proving it. Whereas Light had a literal shinigami on his side and access to his tools not to mention the huge advantage of knowing of the shinigami's existence. L set the framework for near
fair, but I think the way he was defeated was lazy. I could literally see the outcome happening before it even happened which isn't really suppose to happen unless I'm more perspicacious than light, which I am not.
Even with your statement, Light was considered the 'bad guy'. And he didn't become Super LOW IQ, he got overconfident, and that was to be expected after he killed L. Light underestimated Near simply because he isn't L, he wasn't expecting someone competent because he thought L was one of a kind. He was blind and overconfident.
Because Light got predictable, it's simple.
Light was in love with L
odd that his emotions didn't impair his judgment to such an extent anywhere else in the show. He was portrayed as overly precautious at almost every point in the show until the end which honestly spoiled it for me. He was way more thorough before, I doubt his victory over L was enough for him to get outplayed so easily.
Structurally, he is the bad guy as he is breaking the law however, this doesn't change if he is moral or not. This is just a straw man, I never claimed he was the 'good guy'.
If Light wasn't ever considered the bad guy, why did you say that Light lost in a rushed ending only to sustain the idea that bad guys always lose?
I could be just like you and say that everything is subjective, yeah, I'll just state facts and not address anything you said.
And this is VERY important, important enough to make you believe that Light was dumbed down and nerfed for the show to end this way.
That's not the point I was making...
you strawmaned me, good job punk bitch, you got me. I didn't once claim prior he was the 'good guy' in the show.
wether or not the ending is perceived as rushed is subjective. I presented information then stated how this made the ending bad which is a subjective conclusion. I believe my conclusion is superior to yours because of the facts I've presented paired with my perception of these facts (character acts a certain way the entire show, then acts in a way which contradicts prior actions heavily at the end, ultimately leading to his demise).
I'm saying I find this overconfidence irrational and the actions which followed it irrational and completely out of character
not morally.
previously, the writers ended the show with him winning, implying he was the good guy I guess, later on the different writer had a differing take. Whether or not he is a good guy in the eyes of the writer and audience depends. It could be entirely possible that in the eyes of the writer, he is bad/ amoral.
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And I'm saying it made sense because of Light's new overconfident mindset. It might seem like his actions were out of character, but that's because his overconfidence was THAT strong to make you believe that.
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Tbh he has shown levels of overconfidence, the moment before he knew how smart L was. Like when he killed the fake L live on television.
Exactly! It's not really 'out of character' like this guy said. His overconfidence might seem really exaggerated after L's death, but if you think from Light's perspective, it makes a lot of sense.
I understand the overconfidence would make him irrational.
you misunderstood me, based on his character, to me it didn't seem probable for him to become this overconfident as a result of a victory.
wasn't realistic to me as he had pretty much always been on top of his emotions before (granted there was no victory was as great as this one). I'm not saying the actions themselves are unrealistic (as a result of the overconfidence), the overconfidence to this extent seems unrealistic based on prior behaviour.
I don't know why @sb23 keeps thinking it wasn't probable for Light to become this overconfident after L's death. We have seen Light underestimate L before he realized how smart he actually was, and now it's the same with Near, because he thinks that L's intelligence is unmatched, Light thought that someone as intelligent as L would never exist. This isn't something new, he is treating Near similar to how he treated L at the start, when he didn't acknowledge his intelligence.
Found the ending underwhelming. You’re probably right I guess, I just think it could’ve been an executed it better though. 1 thing though, he did know that near was L’s apprentice, I’d assume he would exercise more caution than he would’ve with L initially (not knowing how smart he was).
True, but I also doubt that someone like Light (who's very intuitive when thinking, and confident that his plans will work even though he takes some precautions) would consider the possibility of L's apprentices being capable of being as smart as L.
yeah the end of death note is messed up
