Is a legit 19 inch bideltoid "small"

[Broski]

When I look in the mirror, it looks narrow.
My shoulder circumference is 47 inch with 40 inch chest and 31 inch waist.

Most people think I'm a DYEL as I'm 69kg at 5'10

 

[LooksOrDeath]

No it's average
you look small because you don't have muscles not because of your shoulder width

 

[Broski]

No it's average
you look small because you don't have muscles not because of your shoulder width

My friends didn't know I lifted until I flexed and showed my abs. So being lean is overrated imo

 

[Deleted member 15089]

Honeslty shoulder to waist is more important than absolute size starting above 18.5 bideltoid in my opinion
Who looks better:
21 bideltoid but 38 inch waist
Or mogger 19 at 29 inch waist

 

[TeenAscender]

18.5-19 is the avg for grown men so it’s nothing special

 

[Broski]

18.5-19 is the avg for grown men so it’s nothing special

What's the standard deviation. How many more inches to add for it to be "wide" and statistically significant.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Honeslty shoulder to waist is more important than absolute size starting above 18.5 bideltoid in my opinion
Who looks better:
21 bideltoid but 38 inch waist
Or mogger 19 at 29 inch waist

second

 

[LooksOrDeath]

My friends didn't know I lifted until I flexed and showed my abs. So being lean is overrated imo

being lean is overall better because your face looks better with lower bf

 

[LooksOrDeath]

What's the standard deviation. How many more inches to add for it to be "wide" and statistically significant.

dk about sd but >21 inches you will be considered wide by everyone at 5'10

 

[Broski]

dk about sd but >21 inches you will be considered wide by everyone at 5'10

How many more kg in bodyweight you estimate I need to add to get to 21? As I said before I'm 19 inch and 69kg. When I reach about 80kg you reckon?

 

[Deleted member 15089]

second

It is essentially this versus this

Ones bigger in absolute size but proportions mog size

Obviously if you can maintain good ratios at a bigger bideltoid that’s even better

But 20+ bideltoid with a narrow waist is rare

 

[nitesik]

Agree. Irl though 21 with 38 inch would look bigger than 19 with 29. At same time on pics 2nd would look much much larger

Honeslty shoulder to waist is more important than absolute size starting above 18.5 bideltoid in my opinion
Who looks better:
21 bideltoid but 38 inch waist
Or mogger 19 at 29 inch waist

 

[Deleted member 15089]

How many more kg in bodyweight you estimate I need to add to get to 21? As I said before I'm 19 inch and 69kg. When I reach about 80kg you reckon?

You can look it up, you’d probably have to put on 40-60 pounds of lean muscle

Which is very unlikely if for anyone even the best genetics

And unless you are still benefitting from newbie gains it’s basically impossible unless u have some freak muscle genetics

But putting on .5 inches on each shoulder could be possible in a couple years if you have good genetics

 

[LooksOrDeath]

It is essentially this versus this
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Ones bigger in absolute size but proportions mog size

Obviously if you can maintain good ratios at a bigger bideltoid that’s even better

But 20+ bideltoid with a narrow waist is rare

A 38 inch waist is huge. Nobody cares about your shoulder width at that point because you're shaped like a pear.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

You can look it up, you’d probably have to put on 40-60 pounds of lean muscle

Which is very unlikely if for anyone even the best genetics

And unless you are still benefitting from newbie gains it’s basically impossible unless u have some freak muscle genetics

But putting on .5 inches on each shoulder could be possible in a couple years if you have good genetics

my pump increases my shoulder width by .6 inches

 

[Deleted member 15089]

A 38 inch waist is huge. Nobody cares about your shoulder width at that point because you're shaped like a pear.

I’m prety sure the average American waist for a man is 37 inches you can look it up

Most teens though and fit people are probably 32-34 or under

 

[TUSSELEIF]

I’m 20 inch and don’t feel small so you shouldn’t feel small

 

[Deleted member 15089]

my pump increases my shoulder width by .6 inches

Each one?

I saw this stated by a bodybuilding expert (can’t remember who) that your pumped shoulder width is your natural potential you could put on your bideltoid

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I’m prety sure the average American waist for a man is 37 inches you can look it up

fatass

Most teens though and fit people are probably 32-34 or under

yeah skinny people are at 27-32 and fit people 30-34

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Each one?

yeah, round it down to 1 inch

I saw this stated by a bodybuilding expert (can’t remember who) that your pumped shoulder width is your natural potential you could put on your bideltoid

sounds too low

 

[Deleted member 15089]

fatass

yeah skinny people are at 27-32 and fit people 30-34

Yup I think 29 is the lowest most should go if possible if above 5’8-5’9


<29 and it starts looking weird and skinny, and Unmasculine

 

[Deleted member 15089]

yeah, round it down to 1 inch

sounds too low

For the vast majority

Of course those with good muscle building genetics can build more naturally

 

[Broski]

You can look it up, you’d probably have to put on 40-60 pounds of lean muscle

Which is very unlikely if for anyone even the best genetics

And unless you are still benefitting from newbie gains it’s basically impossible unless u have some freak muscle genetics

But putting on .5 inches on each shoulder could be possible in a couple years if you have good genetics

this what I got in 6 months, my BIDELOTID was sub 18 I think and waist like 28. But I'm obviously bloated around the waist now at 31 but if I go on a short cut can bring it to under 30. I want to aim for 20 inch shoulders 30 inch waist at a weight of about 75kg. Hopefully by end of next year.

 

[GandyIsNormie]

It is essentially this versus this
View attachment 1743470View attachment 1743469
Ones bigger in absolute size but proportions mog size

Obviously if you can maintain good ratios at a bigger bideltoid that’s even better

But 20+ bideltoid with a narrow waist is rare

I'm 21.3 inches in bidetoild and I have non-existent hips, I'm in leanmaxxing for the sole purpose of that apart from the chiseled face, obviously

 

[Broski]

I'm 21.3 inches in bidetoild and I have non-existent hips, I'm in leanmaxxing for the sole purpose of that apart from the chiseled face, obviously

Pic so I can see how mogger those proportions are as inspiration?

 

[Deleted member 15089]

Pic so I can see how mogger those proportions are as inspiration?

Here’s mine, im 17
Do I have a good ratio?

 

[LooksOrDeath]

For the vast majority

Of course those with good muscle building genetics can build more naturally

still too low, good muscle genes people should get 2 inches on each side after working out then

 

[GandyIsNormie]

Pic so I can see how mogger those proportions are as inspiration?

tomorrow they will take body measurements at the nutritionist, I will send them to you by pm although you should keep in mind that I am at 20-22%

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Here’s mine, im 17
Do I have a good ratio?
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average tbh

 

[GandyIsNormie]

Here’s mine, im 17
Do I have a good ratio?
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below average in .org

 

[Broski]

Here’s mine, im 17
Do I have a good ratio?
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Internipple distance is lacking though

 

[Deleted member 15089]

still too low, good muscle genes people should get 2 inches on each side after working out then

For good muscle genetics that’s too high naturally
Maybe with steroids+ Good genetics
But natural with good genetics like 1 inch per side

 

[LooksOrDeath]

below average in .org

.org people have 25 inch bidelts and 16 inch waists

 

[Deleted member 15089]

below average in .org

Someone would unironically say he could use a better ratio

And then I tell them it’s Chris bumstead

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Someone would unironically say he could use a better ratio

And then I tell them it’s Chris bumstead

example:

Internipple distance is lacking though

 

[Deleted member 15089]

example:

There’s no way that just happened lmao

 

[GandyIsNormie]

.org people have 25 inch bidelts and 16 inch waists

That's slightly above average, nothing special

 

[LooksOrDeath]

There’s no way that just happened lmao

it's because of the angle you're posing at over for you gymcel coper jfl at ever getting beckies

 

[LooksOrDeath]

That's slightly above average, nothing special

I agree, i think arm size average is 19 inches here?

 

[Deleted member 15089]

View attachment 1743478this what I got in 6 months, my BIDELOTID was sub 18 I think and waist like 28. But I'm obviously bloated around the waist now at 31 but if I go on a short cut can bring it to under 30. I want to aim for 20 inch shoulders 30 inch waist at a weight of about 75kg. Hopefully by end of next year.

Genuinly how are my genetics
17 years old, completely ungymcelled

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Genuinly how are my genetics
17 years old, completely ungymcelled
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great
weight and shoulder width?

 

[Deleted member 15089]

great
weight and shoulder width?

I have good proportions but bad size
I’m about 155 at 5’9
Shoulder width is 22 inches

 

[Deleted member 15089]

great
weight and shoulder width?

Lol kidding
Shoulder width is about 19, waist is 29
So nothing special, but much above average

 

[Broski]

example:

Yes Im definitely being serious and not mocking this forum at all lol

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I have good proportions but bad size
I’m about 155 at 5’9
Shoulder width is 22 inches

loox is 23 inches jfl

 

[Deleted member 15089]

Yes Im definitely being serious and not mocking this forum at all lol

I trolled a troller

 

[GandyIsNormie]

I agree, i think arm size average is 19 inches here?

JFL are outdated, those are measurements from 2008 in Asian users and curries, currently it is 21 inches

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Lol kidding
Shoulder width is about 19, waist is 29
So nothing special, but much above average

same as me

 

[LooksOrDeath]

JFL are outdated, those are measurements from 2008 in Asian users and curries, currently it is 21 inches

average in american anglo saxon upper class fraternities must be atleast 27 inches then

 

[Broski]

I trolled a troller

Im trolling you because I am being serious boi