Is a portfolio weighted for index funds and ETFs high IQ or low iq

[Jason Voorhees]

Title. I am big proponent of index funds because in the long term they are pretty much unmoggable. There are only like handful of legendary traders like Jim Simons with extreme IQ and tremendous amount of luck that have mogged index funds. And only by a few percentage. I think the only person that mogged index funds with a significant margin is warren buffett in his 90s and 00s runs. Also it's low effort compared to actively managing stuff l. So plz tell if how it is low IQ

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Chadeep @bobbyp343 @Magnus Ironblood @SecularIslamist @Swarthy Knight

 

[bobbyp343]

If you actually want to make decent net returns learn quant trading. Otherwise something like this is ok

 

[bobbyp343]

We have retard Jews like David Einhorn spending years in this shit to make 12%

 

[Jason Voorhees]

If you actually want to make decent net returns learn quant trading. Otherwise something like this is ok

I know how quant trading works but it is giga competitive

 

[bobbyp343]

I know how quant trading works but it is giga competitive

The stock market has never been a way to make money more to preserve it net of inflation

The only people who make money in the stock market are hedge fund guys that charge a 2% of assets fee

 

[bobbyp343]

The stock market has never been a way to make money more to preserve it net of inflation

The only people who make money in the stock market are hedge fund guys that charge a 2% of assets fee

Basically gambling with other people’s money

 

[Jason Voorhees]

We have retard Jews like David Einhorn spending years in this shit to make 12%

The funny thing is on reddit you'll see niggers arguing about that 2% claiming it is some huge difference

 

[bobbyp343]

The funny thing is on reddit you'll see niggers arguing about that 2% claiming it is some huge difference

It is actually a huge diff when your managing billions

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@takethewhitepill

 

[unstable]

isn't real estate suppose to be the best in long term?

 

[takethewhitepill]

If you actually want to make decent net returns learn quant trading. Otherwise something like this is ok

Market cannot realistically be predicted, at least with graphs. Doing something like this can only make good return in the same way a ponzi scheme would, giving fake returns to everyone who invests getting more investors without actually having a company that is worth that much until someone is left holding the bag. Which tbf is most of the stock market. But an index fund will find the companies that most reliably have good margins and you will generally outearn anyone trying to trade themselves with 0% of the effort

 

[takethewhitepill]

isn't real estate suppose to be the best in long term?

Government ponzi

 

[Jason Voorhees]

isn't real estate suppose to be the best in long term?

Not really. It barely beats inflation and has huge upfront costs

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Market cannot realistically be predicted, at least with graphs. Doing something like this can only make good return in the same way a ponzi scheme would, giving fake returns to everyone who invests getting more investors without actually having a company that is worth that much until someone is left holding the bag. Which tbf is most of the stock market. But an index fund will find the companies that most reliably have good margins and you will generally outearn anyone trying to trade themselves with 0% of the effort

I think quantitative trading can work. We have already seen quants making massive profits but it's also true that just as many of not more end up in loses. Numbers can only give your trajectory of where the market is headed not predicting it

 

[takethewhitepill]

I think quantitative trading can work. We have already seen quants making massive profits but it's also true that just as many of not more end up in loses. Numbers can only give your trajectory of where the market is headed not predicting it

Imo we only see this because it's early and influential, if we ran it in a simulated environment where people didn't know what we project it wouldn't be very good since there would be nobody to buy our shit expecting a return. It's just like nfts and crypto again

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Popstar867 @Saint Casanova

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Imo we only see this because it's early and influential, if we ran it in a simulated environment where people didn't know what we project it wouldn't be very good since there would be nobody to buy our shit expecting a return. It's just like nfts and crypto again

I don’t think it’s like NFTs or crypto. Quant trading isn’t about hype it’s about finding small patterns in real market data and using math to trade them Even if no one expects a return, the market will always move and quants make money by spotting those moves not by convincing others to buy in. Most successful hedge funds like Renaissance Technologies Citadel, Two Sigma are built on it. @bobbyp343

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Brus Wane @Yliaster

 

[unstable]

The funny thing is on reddit you'll see niggers arguing about that 2% claiming it is some huge difference

is this nigga just lucky?

 

[bobbyp343]

Check this book out I think you'll like it

The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable

 

[widdi]

It’s only low IQ on the internet where everyone somehow nets 10k a month day trading. If we took all the forum day traders out of their mom’s basements and made a quant firm together we’d be more successful than wherever @CelestialEmpire works at.

Check this book out I think you'll like it

The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable

Taleb is a clown

 

[Jason Voorhees]

is this nigga just lucky?

Yes

 

[bobbyp343]

It’s only low IQ on the internet where everyone somehow nets 10k a month day trading. If we took all the forum day traders out of their mom’s basements and made a quant firm together we’d be more successful than wherever @CelestialEmpire works at.



Taleb is a clown

His books are good reads though

 

[CelestialEmpire]

It’s only low IQ on the internet where everyone somehow nets 10k a month day trading. If we took all the forum day traders out of their mom’s basements and made a quant firm together we’d be more successful than wherever @CelestialEmpire works at.



Taleb is a clown

im a senior in college who interned at a top tier bank (not a pedestrian one like goldman or morgan stanley but think centerview/lazard/pjt)

index funds for 99% of the population unless you have access to alternatives via co-invest or meeting accredited investor standards (differ for different countries), the time spent vs "reward" (will most likely fall to one behavioral bias or another) in trading your personal portfolio versus just spending more time working or studying is atrocious unless youre an unemployed student with a 500k+ portfolio

"reward" as in delta between market returns (your choice of SPY, VTI, VT, etc) versus your "actively managed portfolio" which is probably just chasing momentum and/or growth

 

[widdi]

im a senior in college who interned at a top tier bank (not a pedestrian one like goldman or morgan stanley but think centerview/lazard/pjt)

index funds for 99% of the population unless you have access to alternatives via co-invest or meeting accredited investor standards (differ for different countries), the time spent vs "reward" (will most likely fall to one behavioral bias or another) in trading your personal portfolio versus just spending more time working or studying is atrocious unless youre an unemployed student with a 500k+ portfolio

"reward" as in delta between market returns (your choice of SPY, VTI, VT, etc) versus your "actively managed portfolio" which is probably just chasing momentum and/or growth

Ye I just give vanguard Jews all my money

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Buml

 

[iblamechico]

Just copy nancy pelosi broooooooooooo

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Bump

 

[Aypo129]

The answer is always 2x SP500 leveraged
Take it a notch 2x Nasdaq leveraged
Take it a notch up MSTR
And the final frontier tier risk/reward is kelly letter sig9

 

[Aypo129]

Never buy a index that is not 2x leveraged