is benching 45 hard or easy as a teen

[gynogod]

that is normal when first starting the gym, my original pr (at 14) was 40kg, now im 15 and I bench 95kg

wow bro how much u weighed and height b4/after ? good progress regardless

 

[rotation]

wow bro how much u weighed and height b4/after ? good progress regardless

I was 48kg when I benched 45kg, I am now 64kg benching 95kg

was 5'5 last year, now 5'9 (maybe peaking on 5'10)

 

[joebart101]

stop telling me to hop on peds btw

 

[ihatefoids87]

your mentally challanged if u think a 49 kg can lift more then 45 kgs

Nigga I'm laughing at the fact he's 49 kg

 

[joebart101]

Nigga I'm laughing at the fact he's 49 kg

i keep on going to 49-51

 

[abat]

i

I cannot keep replying to you, genuinely the level of retardation is silly

yes, out of 90 15 year olds they averaged their bodyweight

and that does not prove anything, it proves that OP is only just below average (probably would be average, if you took into account that he is new to the gym and has bad form most likely)

and this study was in trained teens

so it proves everything, unless your standard for something being 'easy' is just your own strength?

in which case, that is also stupid

and you just said his bench is average.. so what is the issue?

you went from saying it was horrendous and meant hormonal issues to.. he is average?

so why does he need PEDs now? because he is only average?

i said it is an easy weight, i dont use insults in my arguments because they are rooted in emotion and i am not an idiot. it proves everything, can you read? in your studies, considering weight, he was average. average is not good, so yes, he does not have a lot of muscle mass and could have low test. go back to school so you can learn how to make a point, all of your "gotcha!" points are easily disproven. genuine iq diff.

 

[abat]

I cannot keep replying to you, genuinely the level of retardation is silly

yes, out of 90 15 year olds they averaged their bodyweight

and that does not prove anything, it proves that OP is only just below average (probably would be average, if you took into account that he is new to the gym and has bad form most likely)

and this study was in trained teens

so it proves everything, unless your standard for something being 'easy' is just your own strength?

in which case, that is also stupid

and you just said his bench is average.. so what is the issue?

you went from saying it was horrendous and meant hormonal issues to.. he is average?

so why does he need PEDs now? because he is only average?

stop digging the hole deeper brother, it genuinely just looks like you are desperately trying to be right by saying a slew of insults and repeatedly using the straw man fallacy/gotcha 'points.' intelligence is brutal 'cause you cant fake

 

[rotation]

i

i said it is an easy weight, i dont use insults in my arguments because they are rooted in emotion and i am not an idiot. it proves everything, can you read? in your studies, considering weight, he was average. average is not good, so yes, he does not have a lot of muscle mass and could have low test. go back to school so you can learn how to make a point, all of your "gotcha!" points are easily disproven. genuine iq diff.

I cannot stand people like you

you refuse to back down, and change your arguments to facilitate it.

let me show how your arguments have changed:

he has horrendously low testosterone and hormonal issues, that is an outrageous bench

to

he may not have hormonal issues, but it is still a terrible bench so he needs PEDs

to

he is average, not good. so he still needs PEDs

do you see my point?

average is normal.

he is untrained, he does not need to be 'good'

being average is not an issue, you just want to root insecurity in 14 year olds and implant the thought that they need PEDs to be above average.

 

[abat]

I cannot stand people like you

you refuse to back down, and change your arguments to facilitate it.

let me show how your arguments have changed:

he has horrendously low testosterone and hormonal issues, that is an outrageous bench

to

he may not have hormonal issues, but it is still a terrible bench so he needs PEDs

to

he is average, not good. so he still needs PEDs

do you see my point?

average is normal.

he is untrained, he does not need to be 'good'

being average is not an issue, you just want to root insecurity in 14 year olds and implant the thought that they need PEDs to be above average.

quote what i actually said instead of exaggerating. i never said he "needs" peds, and i never said his test was horrendously low. it could be, as i already stated. average is easy, which i also previously stated. you look like an idiot xx

 

[rotation]

i never said his test was horrendously low

if you cant bench 45 kg at 14, your test and muscle mass are both shockingly low

 

[abat]

I cannot stand people like you

you refuse to back down, and change your arguments to facilitate it.

let me show how your arguments have changed:

he has horrendously low testosterone and hormonal issues, that is an outrageous bench

to

he may not have hormonal issues, but it is still a terrible bench so he needs PEDs

to

he is average, not good. so he still needs PEDs

do you see my point?

average is normal.

he is untrained, he does not need to be 'good'

being average is not an issue, you just want to root insecurity in 14 year olds and implant the thought that they need PEDs to be above average.

so lets go through everything i actually said. he could have low test, his bench is easy for a teen, he has low muscle mass, and he can hop on peds at his own discretion. average is not good. having average muscle mass is also not good, look around you.

 

[abat]

horrendous does not mean shocking, shocking is different based on the individual. his bench is low, and his test is also likely low.

 

[abat]

if you really dont realize how badly youve lost this argument you're lost brother

 

[ILikeNihari123]

Depends on age and habits really also genetics

 

[rotation]

so lets go through everything i actually said. he could have low test, his bench is easy for a teen, he has low muscle mass, and he can hop on peds at his own discretion. average is not good. having average muscle mass is also not good, look around you.

do you understand the definition of average?

'a standard or level that is considered to be typical or usual'

if you put together 100 people, the average is the person who is 50th best at something.

it is normal

if his bench is 'completely' normal, how can it be easy for a teen?

you don't make any sense

tag as many users as you can in this thread and see who agrees with you

having average muscle mass is also not good, look around you.

the typical person has average muscle mass, as per the definition

if you really dont realize how badly youve lost this argument you're lost brother

you need to do some reflecting, and read through this thread

you did not make a single good point, and your argument changed throughout

horrendous does not mean shocking, shocking is different based on the individual. his bench is low, and his test is also likely low.

you are just taking the piss now

this has to be bait

if i say:

'my test is shockingly low'

and

'my test is horrendously low'

it means the same shit, stop lying to yourself

they are literally similes too

 

[abat]

straw man again, i know you want to get iqmogged, cant compare

do you understand the definition of average?

'a standard or level that is considered to be typical or usual'

if you put together 100 people, the average is the person who is 50th best at something.

it is normal

if his bench is 'completely' normal, how can it be easy for a teen?

you don't make any sense

tag as many users as you can in this thread and see who agrees with you



the typical person has average muscle mass, as per the definition



you need to do some reflecting, and read through this thread

you did not make a single good point, and your argument changed throughout


you are just taking the piss now

this has to be bait

if i say:

'my test is shockingly low'

and

'my test is horrendously low'

it means the same shit, stop lying to yourself

they are literally similes too

it doesnt mean the same thing, one is objective. i read through the thread, and i realized that you failed to acknowledge my points many times, rather you resorted to insults as you could not disprove them. average is not good, average is average, average is easy. average is bad in a world where the average person cant do a pull up

 

[rotation]

straw man again, i know you want to get iqmogged, cant compare

it doesnt mean the same thing, one is objective. i read through the thread, and i realized that you failed to acknowledge my points many times, rather you resorted to insults as you could not disprove them. average is not good, average is average, average is easy. average is bad in a world where the average person cant do a pull up

I will gift you VIP if you tag 5 people and even 3/5 agree with you

no more responses, since your arguments make no sense - even when I linked studies

get to tagging !

 

[abat]

do you understand the definition of average?

'a standard or level that is considered to be typical or usual'

if you put together 100 people, the average is the person who is 50th best at something.

it is normal

if his bench is 'completely' normal, how can it be easy for a teen?

you don't make any sense

tag as many users as you can in this thread and see who agrees with you



the typical person has average muscle mass, as per the definition



you need to do some reflecting, and read through this thread

you did not make a single good point, and your argument changed throughout


you are just taking the piss now

this has to be bait

if i say:

'my test is shockingly low'

and

'my test is horrendously low'

it means the same shit, stop lying to yourself

they are literally similes too

you proved my point can you stop replying with the same emotion filled cope if it isnt anything new. you proved my point with studies, and you are genuinely rotting on org. "tag" its over for you. read through this thread, notice how every point you made was either irrelevant, wrong, or proving my point correct? thanks man, iq mogged

 

[rotation]

you proved my point can you stop replying with the same emotion filled cope if it isnt anything new. you proved my point with studies, and you are genuinely rotting on org. "tag" its over for you. read through this thread, notice how every point you made was either irrelevant, wrong, or proving my point correct? thanks man, iq mogged

okay sure, if you don't care about VIP I will paypal/cashapp you $20 if more than 40% of people agree with you

hell, even 30%

you need serious help

 

[abat]

okay sure, if you don't care about VIP I will paypal/cashapp you $20 if more than 40% of people agree with you

hell, even 30%

you need serious help

"you need help" is your only reply. it's over brother. iq mogged. ts frying me, youre pouring your heart into ts like it matters. average isnt good, average is never good. why do you think average intelligence is considered stupid for people who are intelligent? 100 kg is weak for someone who benches 200 kg. maybe im biased like these examples, doesnt matter. average is average, which is easy.

 

[abat]

okay sure, if you don't care about VIP I will paypal/cashapp you $20 if more than 40% of people agree with you

hell, even 30%

you need serious help

i dont use org btw, not sure if you noticed but nobody who uses this website frequently can make a coherent point

 

[rotation]

youre pouring your heart into ts like it matters

you just told a 14 year old child that he had shocking hormone levels and needed PEDs

you say iq mogged in every response, you have a low brain cell feedback loop

why do you think average intelligence is considered stupid for people who are intelligent? 100 kg is weak for someone who benches 200 kg. maybe im biased like these examples, doesnt matter. average is average, which is easy.

I am caging so hard at you for this

wtf

average is considered average, you make stupid points

so his average benchpress is bad, just because you can benchpress more?

so an 120kg bench is considered below average by a powerlifter, just because they can bench more?

yes its biased, lol

average is average, which is easy.

average is average, which is average

 

[abat]

you just told a 14 year old child that he had shocking hormone levels and needed PEDs

you say iq mogged in every response, you have a low brain cell feedback loop



I am caging so hard at you for this

wtf

average is considered average, you make stupid points

so his average benchpress is bad, just because you can benchpress more?

so an 120kg bench is considered below average by a powerlifter, just because they can bench more?

yes its biased, lol



average is average, which is average

and average is easy. why are you so angry? ive already stated the same thing multiple times, which you somehow cannot comprehend. iq mogged is a joke because you said it earlier, it is ironic because you lost the argument and clearly do not "iqmog" anyone, you would not need to say that you do if you truly did. he does not NEED peds, which i have said multiple times. if he, at his own discretion, decides that he wants them, that is not a bad idea. stop getting so angry, it is not serious at all. pro tip btw: emotions make your points seem less valid, and someone with high intelligence should not use emotions in their arguments. im sorry to break it to you brother, but you are not high iq.

 

[Hide]

i dont use org btw, not sure if you noticed but nobody who uses this website frequently can make a coherent point

My brain exploded reading your argument what a fucking retard

Have you actually seen an intro teen gymgoer whos 45 kg

They sometimes dont even lift the bar jfl

 

[abat]

and average is easy. why are you so angry? ive already stated the same thing multiple times, which you somehow cannot comprehend. iq mogged is a joke because you said it earlier, it is ironic because you lost the argument and clearly do not "iqmog" anyone, you would not need to say that you do if you truly did. he does not NEED peds, which i have said multiple times. if he, at his own discretion, decides that he wants them, that is not a bad idea. stop getting so angry, it is not serious at all. pro tip btw: emotions make your points seem less valid, and someone with high intelligence should not use emotions in their arguments. im sorry to break it to you brother, but you are not high iq.

your brain might ascend with puberty

 

[rotation]

My brain exploded reading your argument what a fucking retard

Have you actually seen an intro gymgoer whos 45 kg

They sometimes dont even lift the bar jfl

god, finally someone actually coming to the thread with a shred of brain

I thought I was losing the plot

 

[abat]

My brain exploded reading your argument what a fucking retard

Have you actually seen an intro teen gymgoer whos 45 kg

They sometimes dont even lift the bar jfl

this doesnt prove anything? 45kg is good compared to someone who cant lift the bar, great point ig?

 

[rotation]

and average is easy. why are you so angry? ive already stated the same thing multiple times, which you somehow cannot comprehend. iq mogged is a joke because you said it earlier, it is ironic because you lost the argument and clearly do not "iqmog" anyone, you would not need to say that you do if you truly did. he does not NEED peds, which i have said multiple times. if he, at his own discretion, decides that he wants them, that is not a bad idea. stop getting so angry, it is not serious at all. pro tip btw: emotions make your points seem less valid, and someone with high intelligence should not use emotions in their arguments. im sorry to break it to you brother, but you are not high iq.

average is not easy for the average person, average is average

how hard is it for you to understand the definition of average?

just because average is easy for you, does not make average 'easy'

average, by definition, will always be average

if I lost the argument, show me the part where I got beaten

 

[Hide]

god, finally someone actually coming to the thread with a shred of brain

I thought I was losing the plot

Mf is 14 year old likely untrained and skinny btw

Hes 45 kg

Actual 14 year olds are not strong at all, they just came out of middle school

The study he brought was from trained guys btw

14 year olds are weak asl lol

this doesnt prove anything? 45kg is good compared to someone who cant lift the bar, great point ig?

 

[abat]

god, finally someone actually coming to the thread with a shred of brain

I thought I was losing the plot

you already lost the plot

average is not easy for the average person, average is average

how hard is it for you to understand the definition of average?

just because average is easy for you, does not make average 'easy'

average, by definition, will always be average

if I lost the argument, show me the part where I got beaten

you just did, and i didnt even need to do anything. average is average for the average person, great job. average is easy for anyone above that average (which is a lot of people according to the definition of average)

 

[rotation]

Mf is 14 year old likely untrained and skinny btw

Hes 45 kg

Actual 14 year olds are not strong at all, they just came out of middle school

The study he brought was from trained guys btw

14 year olds are weak asl lol

the studies I showed proved my point further, right?

because it was trained individuals who could only bench their bodyweight

and this 14 year old untrained skinny kid can already pretty much bench his bodyweight

meaning, in no way does he have any issues, no?

I know im not just going insane

 

[abat]

Mf is 14 year old likely untrained and skinny btw

Hes 45 kg

Actual 14 year olds are not strong at all, they just came out of middle school

The study he brought was from trained guys btw

14 year olds are weak asl lol

trained rugby players, it doesnt specify what positions. 14 year olds arent always weak? maybe where you come from they are.

 

[abat]

the studies I showed proved my point further, right?

because it was trained individuals who could only bench their bodyweight

and this 14 year old untrained skinny kid can already pretty much bench his bodyweight

meaning, in no way does he have any issues, no?

I know im not just going insane

average is easy for people who are above average, acknowledge that you understand this. he, according to the study, is average when considering weight and below average when not. if you cant comprehend this, you are an idiot. (not supposed to be an insult )

 

[abat]

the studies I showed proved my point further, right?

because it was trained individuals who could only bench their bodyweight

and this 14 year old untrained skinny kid can already pretty much bench his bodyweight

meaning, in no way does he have any issues, no?

I know im not just going insane

also he never specified he was untrained. the more you jump to conclusions, the worse your points become.

 

[rotation]

average is easy for people who are above average, acknowledge that you understand this. he, according to the study, is average when considering weight and below average when not. if you cant comprehend this, you are an idiot. (not supposed to be an insult )

your point has completed evaporated, and now you are just spewing nonsense

so to be clear, you think an average 14 year old who is doing just fine should take PEDs?

that is all the debate was about, so tell me.

 

[Hide]

average is easy for people who are above average, acknowledge that you understand this. he, according to the study, is average when considering weight and below average when not. if you cant comprehend this, you are an idiot. (not supposed to be an insult )

Ok so you concede your argument thank you

 

[abat]

your point has completed evaporated, and now you are just spewing nonsense

so to be clear, you think an average 14 year old who is doing just fine should take PEDs?

that is all the debate was about, so tell me.

what i think is irrelevant, but yes, he should.

what matters is that his bench is average-below average, meaning it is easy.

therefore, to answer the original question once again, 45kg is an easy bench for someone in their teens.

 

[abat]

Ok so you concede your argument thank you

that was my argument the whole time average is easy

 

[abat]

Ok so you concede your argument thank you

does this mean you agree with me that average is easy for people who are above average?

 

[rotation]

therefore, to answer the original question once again, 45kg is an easy bench for someone in their teens.

as we have clarified a million times, its not easy, it is average

easy would indicate below average

as per the definition, an average difficulty is 'neither too easy nor too hard'

what i think is irrelevant, but yes, he should.

great, keep telling 14 year olds to take PEDs

amazing idea

what matters is that his bench is average-below average, meaning it is easy.

are you genuinely on amphetamines

what are you even saying?

his bench is average, as we have clarified

that was my argument the whole time average is easy

no, your argument was that he has no muscle mass + low testosterone, and needs PEDS

and average is only easy if you are above average, this entire debate has gone to shit

average is average, holy fuck

 

[rotation]

does this mean you agree with me that average is easy for people who are above average?

no shit, obviously

but that was not your argument

 

[abat]

as we have clarified a million times, its not easy, it is average

easy would indicate below average

as per the definition, an average difficulty is 'neither too easy nor too hard'



great, keep telling 14 year olds to take PEDs

amazing idea



are you genuinely on amphetamines

what are you even saying?

his bench is average, as we have clarified



no, your argument was that he has no muscle mass + low testosterone, and needs PEDS

and average is only easy if you are above average, this entire debate has gone to shit

average is average, holy fuck

average is easy for a good amount of people, shocking.

 

[abat]

no shit, obviously

but that was not your argument

it was, actually.

 

[Hide]

that was my argument the whole time average is easy

You originally suggested the kid, the first thing to hop on roids. That was your original argument, nobody is trying to read your hidden meaning like its english class

i want you to consider how retarded your idea is

Damn nigga were you lifting 200 kilos at 12?

Hes fucking 14 the worst thing is to alter his hormones when he isnt even done growing, the max id do is hgh+ai

Hes not hormonally unhealthy, and btw, any athletic trained kid no matter positopn is stronger than an untrained kid, so he might as well be noticeably above avg if anything necaude the sample is small

I usually suggest roids when someone is around 17, not fucking 14 lmaooo

No 14 year old "average kid" should alter his hormonal profile that isnt for maybe height growth

 

[Dorogi]

im 14 49 ks im benchin 45 kgs as of now

When i started the gym at 15 i coukdnt even bench 40 bhai we all start somewhere

 

[rotation]

average is easy for a good amount of people, shocking.

oh my god, I cannot deal with this

obviously, that is the definition

but that was not what the argument was about

it was whether he should take PEDs or not

this is my final response,

it was, actually.

no, it wasnt

reply to this right now and tell me your point was not that he should take PEDs

You originally suggested the kid, the first thing to hop on roids. That was your original argument, nobody is trying to read your hidden meaning like its english class

i want you to consider how retarded your idea is

Damn nigga were you lifting 200 kilos at 12?

Hes fucking 14 the worst thing is to alter his hormones when he isnt even done growing, the max id do is hgh+ai

Hes not hormonally unhealthy, and btw, any athletic trained kid no matter positopn is stronger than an untrained kid, so he might as well be noticeably above avg if anything necaude the sample is small

I usually suggest roids when someone is around 17, not fucking 14 lmaooo

No 14 year old "average kid" should alter his hormonal profile that isnt for maybe height growth

 

[abat]

You originally suggested the kid, the first thing to hop on roids. That was your original argument, nobody is trying to read your hidden meaning like its english class

i want you to consider how retarded your idea is

Damn nigga were you lifting 200 kilos at 12?

Hes fucking 14 the worst thing is to alter his hormones when he isnt even done growing, the max id do is hgh+ai

Hes not hormonally unhealthy, and btw, any athletic trained kid no matter positopn is stronger than an untrained kid, so he might as well be noticeably above avg if anything necaude the sample is small

I usually suggest roids when someone is around 17, not fucking 14 lmaooo

No 14 year old "average kid" should alter his hormonal profile that isnt for maybe height growth

peds don't necessarily alter your hormones, and yes he should take them. that doesnt matter when considering is an average-below average weight is easy or not? at least rotation makes some points, or ones that are sometimes relevant. this is genuinely just slop

 

[abat]

oh my god, I cannot deal with this

obviously, that is the definition

but that was not what the argument was about

it was whether he should take PEDs or not

this is my final response,



no, it wasnt

reply to this right now and tell me your point was not that he should take PEDs

it was never about peds?? the thread is literally about how 45kg is easy did you read the title bro?

 

[abat]

m

oh my god, I cannot deal with this

obviously, that is the definition

but that was not what the argument was about

it was whether he should take PEDs or not

this is my final response,



no, it wasnt

reply to this right now and tell me your point was not that he should take PEDs

my point was that 45kg is easy, "should be able to rep 45kg." there you go!

 

[rotation]

peds don't necessarily alter your hormones=

nigga

name one PED which doesn't alter hormones