is canthopexy only temporary?

[homo_faber]

i heard that

 

[The Bleach Pill]

yes

 

[homo_faber]

yes

so its pretty much useless

 

[hairyballscel]

it lasts years doe

 

[homo_faber]

now i read the effect starts to decrease due ageing but you will be still better in lets 40 years compared to in 40 years wen you wouldnt have done it.

 

[Linoob]

almond eye or death

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

now i read the effect starts to decrease due ageing but you will be still better in lets 40 years compared to in 40 years wen you wouldnt have done it.

true from what I have read too
I spoke to some people who had lower eyelid surgeries years ago and they didn't notice fading results too
Looking at what the surgeries entail it seems like the fading results would just be in line with the regular aging process so not a massive flaw like that

 

[Guyinpeace2]

you need good bone maintenance I think, otherwise in 3 years it will go away.

 

[homo_faber]

true from what I have read too
I spoke to some people who had lower eyelid surgeries years ago and they didn't notice fading results too
Looking at what the surgeries entail it seems like the fading results would just be in line with the regular aging process so not a massive flaw like that

yes very good news, canthopexy might be the way to go for many people. i wonder what the main difference between lower eyelid retraction surgery and canthopexy regarding the outcome is?

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

yes very good news, canthopexy might be the way to go for many people. i wonder what the main difference between lower eyelid retraction surgery and canthopexy regarding the outcome is?

from what I've seen as far as tightening of the lower eyelids goes, lower eyelid retraction usually provides bigger changes than lateral canthopexy.

They are designed for different reasons, I need to do more research into this type of canthopexy and find out which route is best to go down retraction surgery vs canthopexy surgery, right now I know more about the former.

this might interest you btw

Algorithm for canthoplasty: the lateral retinacular suspension: a simplified suture canthopexy - PubMed

Results of aesthetic lower eyelid surgery have improved through a better understanding of the anatomy, indications for surgery, and more effective, individualized solutions for the varied problems. Most treatment options have the potential risk of inducing lower eyelid malposition if support is...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Results of aesthetic lower eyelid surgery have improved through a better understanding of the anatomy, indications for surgery, and more effective, individualized solutions for the varied problems. Most treatment options have the potential risk of inducing lower eyelid malposition if support is not applied through either canthoplasty or canthopexy. An algorithm for selecting the most appropriate method of canthal support in lower eyelid and midfacial rejuvenation is presented. A new, simplified, effective, and aesthetic suture canthopexy, the transpalpebral lateral retinacular suspension, is introduced; it can be universally applied.

the source is :

Fagien, Steven M.D.

Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery: June 1999 - Volume 103 - Issue 7 - p 2042-2053

maybe you can find a copy online and it'll be a worthwhile read,

 

[homo_faber]

from what I've seen as far as tightening of the lower eyelids goes, lower eyelid retraction usually provides bigger changes than lateral canthopexy.

They are designed for different reasons, I need to do more research into this type of canthopexy and find out which route is best to go down retraction surgery vs canthopexy surgery, right now I know more about the former.

this might interest you btw

Algorithm for canthoplasty: the lateral retinacular suspension: a simplified suture canthopexy - PubMed

Results of aesthetic lower eyelid surgery have improved through a better understanding of the anatomy, indications for surgery, and more effective, individualized solutions for the varied problems. Most treatment options have the potential risk of inducing lower eyelid malposition if support is...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

the source is :

Fagien, Steven M.D.

Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery: June 1999 - Volume 103 - Issue 7 - p 2042-2053

maybe you can find a copy online and it'll be a worthwhile read,

i will look into it when im home again tmmrw. i will also write a question regarding that topic on realself and post the answers in this forum (if i get any)

 

[homo_faber]

i asked dr eppley that question and here is his reply:

2) Canthopexy can be permanent based on how it is performed and secured to the lateral orbital rim.

 

[homo_faber]

i asked dr eppley that question and here is his reply:

2) Canthopexy can be permanent based on how it is performed and secured to the lateral orbital rim.

what does he mean with "based on how its performed" ?

he didnt reply to my following email

 

[Soalian]

from what I've seen as far as tightening of the lower eyelids goes, lower eyelid retraction usually provides bigger changes than lateral canthopexy.

They are designed for different reasons, I need to do more research into this type of canthopexy and find out which route is best to go down retraction surgery vs canthopexy surgery, right now I know more about the former.

this might interest you btw

Algorithm for canthoplasty: the lateral retinacular suspension: a simplified suture canthopexy - PubMed

Results of aesthetic lower eyelid surgery have improved through a better understanding of the anatomy, indications for surgery, and more effective, individualized solutions for the varied problems. Most treatment options have the potential risk of inducing lower eyelid malposition if support is...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

the source is :

Fagien, Steven M.D.

Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery: June 1999 - Volume 103 - Issue 7 - p 2042-2053

maybe you can find a copy online and it'll be a worthwhile read,

Aren't they for different things?

Lower eyelid retraction for tightening lower eyelid, and eliminating Scleral show,

and Canthopexy, for changing cantha tilt, by repositioning lateral canthus?

 

[homo_faber]

Aren't they for different things?

Lower eyelid retraction for tightening lower eyelid, and eliminating Scleral show,

and Canthopexy, for changing cantha tilt, by repositioning lateral canthus?

we must have to be careful here

"lower eyelid retraction surgery" can describe 21 different procedures including canthoplasty and canthopexy.

https://looksmax.org/threads/lower-...-used-to-describe-around-21-surgeries.250260/

and then we have to differentiate between "normal canthopexy", bridge to bone canthopexy and "normal" canthoplasty

while normal canthopexy does not include raising the lateral canthus it can be done with canthopexy or bridge to bone canthopexy as far as i understood it...(note that im learning english for 4 years so i cant say i understand everything 100% simply because of the language barrier...).


some quotes on the topic

Canthopexy merely reinforces the canthus without cutting; thereby it does not alter the horizontal length of the eyelid and it does not alter the position of canthus.

a canthoplasty is more focused on the corner of the eye where the eyelids meet. It’s normally more invasive as their has to be cutting of the muscle. Alternatively, a canthopexy is less invasive and mostly involves sutures to tighten and stabilize the tendons and muscles of the eye. There’s no muscles that are cut in this procedure.

A canthopexy surgical maneuver involves tightening the ocular lateral canthal tendon without involving the canthal angle while canthoplasty involves either a canthotomy – cantholysis before resuspending the lower eyelid to the lateral orbital rim periosteum

Canthoplasty procedures, by design, alter the shape of the palpebral fissure because they disassemble and reassemble the lateral canthus while shortening the lower lid margin. Because it does not violate the lid margin, lateral canthopexy maintains or has the potential to restore palpebral fissure shape, including the lateral canthal angle. Canthoplasty procedures may be effective in elevating the lower lid, but they often exaggerate senile or postsurgical distortion of palpebral fissure shape.

 

[Soalian]

we must have to be careful here

"lower eyelid retraction surgery" can describe 21 different procedures including canthoplasty and canthopexy.

https://looksmax.org/threads/lower-...-used-to-describe-around-21-surgeries.250260/

and then we have to differentiate between "normal canthopexy", bridge to bone canthopexy and "normal" canthoplasty

while normal canthopexy does not include raising the lateral canthus it can be done with canthopexy or bridge to bone canthopexy as far as i understood it...(note that im learning english for 4 years so i cant say i understand everything 100% simply because of the language barrier...).


some quotes on the topic

Thank you for your well-researched posts, will dig into it.

Problem is, I am currently trying to reach surgeons doing that kind of procedures in Western Europe;

but they're a mess to choose from, because they each list different procedures under the interventions they do, so I have to email each of them individually.

What if "lower eyelid retraction surgery", means one thing for one surgeon, but another thing for another surgeon?

 

[homo_faber]

What if "lower eyelid retraction surgery", means one thing for one surgeon, but another thing for another surgeon?

thats the problem

 

[Soalian]

thats the problem

I'm "simply" trying to see if it's possible to get my slight NCT, into neutral tilt.

 

[Soalian]

Maybe you can see my NCT from my avi.

 

[Deleted member 5349]

Over if you don’t have PCT naturally

 

[Soalian]

Over if you don’t have PCT naturally

I don't even care about PCT, I feel even slight PCT would give me those "cat eyes" that won't fit with the rest of my features, I have slight NCT, but neutral tilt would be good.

PCT is good on men in most cases, but when PCT breaks your face harmony, or looks like it's out of place with the rest, it really stands out, in my experience.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

and Canthopexy, for changing cantha tilt, by repositioning lateral canthus?

Pretty sure you mean canthoplasty here

 

[Deleted member 3043]

any solution for an eye that looks sometimes more open than the other, despite little to none scleral show?

 

[homo_faber]

any solution for an eye that looks sometimes more open than the other, despite little to none scleral show?

what do you mean