Is clomid cope?

[Tylermax]

Gonna see soon an endocrinologist (she's a woman late 20s from the phonecall) propably gonna tell me to get a "natural booster" or some cope shit. I've heard clomid might work but I'm 279ng dl with one ball. Is trt and infertility the only chance to survive?

 

[Angutoid]

i hopped on test bc i had 450 nigga

 

[Tylermax]

i hopped on test bc i had 450 nigga

Aren't you scared of prostate or infertility?

 

[Hexmask]

I hopped on test when I had 600 total T but my free T was meh and enclo gave me positive improvements. Im natural now and trying fadogia agrestis and tongkat ali

 

[Angutoid]

Aren't you scared of prostate or infertility?

no

 

[Tylermax]

I hopped on test when I had 600 total T but my free T was meh and enclo gave me positive improvements. Im natural now and trying fadogia agrestis and tongkat ali

What is enclo. Why did you stop?

 

[Tylermax]

no

Chad. You do it once a week?

 

[Norwegian LTN]

Gonna see soon an endocrinologist (she's a woman late 20s from the phonecall) propably gonna tell me to get a "natural booster" or some cope shit. I've heard clomid might work but I'm 279ng dl with one ball. Is trt and infertility the only chance to survive?

Try enclo instead of clomid, same but with better side effect profile

 

[Hexmask]

Enclomiphene. The only one you should consider out of clomid and enclo. Clomid is made up of 2 isomers; enclomiphene and zuclomiphene. Zuclomiphene is whats responsbile for the nasty side effects talked about most noteably being eye issues. The zuclo isomer is also an estrogen agonist so you will have normal serum E2 but have wonky mood issues. Clomid fucked my shit up.

 

[Angutoid]

Chad. You do it once a week?

twice for test e

 

[Tylermax]

Try enclo instead of clomid, same but with better side effect profile

Does it always work? Is it better than trt?

 

[Tylermax]

Enclomiphene. The only one you should consider out of clomid and enclo. Clomid is made up of 2 isomers; enclomiphene and zuclomiphene. Zuclomiphene is whats responsbile for the nasty side effects talked about most noteably being eye issues. The zuclo isomer is also an estrogen agonist so you will have normal serum E2 but have wonky mood issues. Clomid fucked my shit up.

Ok so enclo or trt? What if lh or FSH is high

 

[Norwegian LTN]

Does it always work? Is it better than trt?

Its different, bot better or worse. Depends what you want

 

[Norwegian LTN]

Why is your test low?

 

[Tylermax]

twice for test e

Are you gonna do it for life?

 

[Tylermax]

Its different, bot better or worse. Depends what you want

I want testosterone obviously. What do you mean what I want jew

 

[Hexmask]

Ok so enclo or trt? What if lh or FSH is high

Well you can determine if enclo or TRT is better based on the type of hypogonadism. If its an LH issue enclo will be sufficient treatment. If your LH and FSH are good but total and free is shit you probably just have nuts that won't work. Or you are obese.

 

[Tylermax]

Why is your test low?

Orchiectomy due to testicular cancer.

 

[Angutoid]

Are you gonna do it for life?

if i hop on some 19nor later yes

 

[Tylermax]

Well you can determine if enclo or TRT is better based on the type of hypogonadism. If its an LH issue enclo will be sufficient treatment. If your LH and FSH are good but total and free is shit you probably just have nuts that won't work. Or you are obese.

I'm 6'4 like 80 Max 90kg max so I'm just gonna do another blood test I suppose

 

[Norwegian LTN]

I want testosterone obviously. What do you mean what I want jew

Obviously pinning testosterone would give you more testosterone, but that will cause suppression. Enclomephine will stimulate lh and therfore upregulate your own testosterone Production

 

[Hexmask]

I'm 6'4 like 80 Max 90kg max so I'm just gonna do another blood test I suppose

You said your in the low 200s and you had testicular cancer? How old are you? We aren't doctors but it sounds like you need to pin.

 

[Tylermax]

if i hop on some 19nor later yes

How's your daily experience on trt

 

[Angutoid]

How's your daily experience on trt

im cold turkey now mane deciding between cruising and pct

 

[Tylermax]

im cold turkey now mane deciding between cruising and pct

I don't know half of the words you say what they mean but I trust you g. Love you

 

[Tylermax]

You said your in the low 200s and you had testicular cancer? How old are you? We aren't doctors but it sounds like you need to pin.

22. I did blood test in November had 359. Oncologist said it will rise slowly but tested again in February and I'm at 279. I feel weird soreness in muscles as if I've trained them but I haven't. Libido is off. I don't even think sex anymore. (Tbh it's a benefit for me) But yeah

 

[Norwegian LTN]

Orchiectomy due to testicular cancer.

I think trt would be best option

 

[Hexmask]

22. I did blood test in November had 359. Oncologist said it will rise slowly but tested again in February and I'm at 279. I feel weird soreness in muscles as if I've trained them but I haven't. Libido is off. I don't even think sex anymore. (Tbh it's a benefit for me) But yeah

Buy UGL test and pin(if it is safe) its 25 dollars a vial. DM me if you need help sourcing. I'll help you out. Sorry you are going through this. At 22 you should feel indestructable.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Not worth the potential sides imo.

Just inject

 

[Tylermax]

Buy UGL test and pin(if it is safe) its 25 dollars a vial. DM me if you need help sourcing. I'll help you out. Sorry you are going through this. At 22 you should feel indestructable.

Not worth the potential sides imo.

Just inject

Alright thanks guys

 

[Norwegian LTN]

Alright thanks guys

I would try to get trt through a prescription and only do ugl if they deny you. Then its easier if you travel and its just a factor less with stress considering you have to use it long term

 

[Angutoid]

I don't know half of the words you say what they mean but I trust you g. Love you

thanks man. 19nor is the group that contains heavy roids like deca, tren etc
love you too best of luck

 

[Tylermax]

thanks man. 19nor is the group that contains heavy roids like deca, tren etc
love you too best of luck

You're Chad bro. It's one life . Go hard

 

[Tylermax]

I would try to get trt through a prescription and only do ugl if they deny you. Then its easier if you travel and its just a factor less with stress considering you have to use it long term

Thanks for the advice my big bro

 

[Angutoid]

You're Chad bro. It's one life . Go hard

im the last guy thatd be considered a chad but thank you still man acc its the reason why im so "low inhib" because i already dont want to live with my current stats.

 

[True_North]

im the last guy thatd be considered a chad but thank you still man acc its the reason why im so "low inhib" because i already dont want to live with my current stats.

Buy UGL test and pin(if it is safe) its 25 dollars a vial. DM me if you need help sourcing

How much would you say blasting has affected your inhib levels? I'm juggling anxiolytic GABAergic drugs/benzos vs just doing a 15 week T cycle for rebuilding social skills after rotting a while. Also if I already have fin , would that be enough to combat increased DHT levels, or should I stack with RU588421? Thanks brehs

 

[Angutoid]

How much would you say blasting has affected your inhib levels? I'm juggling anxiolytic GABAergic drugs/benzos vs just doing a 15 week T cycle for rebuilding social skills after rotting a while. Also if I already have fin , would that be enough to combat increased DHT levels, or should I stack with RU588421? Thanks brehs

im on my first proper cycle ill lyk
last one was a failure

 

[Hexmask]

How much would you say blasting has affected your inhib levels? I'm juggling anxiolytic GABAergic drugs/benzos vs just doing a 15 week T cycle for rebuilding social skills after rotting a while. Also if I already have fin , would that be enough to combat increased DHT levels, or should I stack with RU588421? Thanks brehs

How old?

 

[True_North]

im on my first proper cycle ill lyk
last one was a failure

Lmk brah and I'll do the same after I try a bunch of different shit.

How old?

Late 20s. Previous lite-slayer but lost my rizz after brootal facemelting breakup + friends all live far away + locationcucked in the countryside. Need something to kickstart my engine again.

 

[testosterone36]

clomid can stall growth plate closure as it basically deactivates most of your estrogen

it put me from sub 300 test to 859 in 6-7 months but wasn’t the best experience

Clomid suppresses / lowers your igf1 which we all know is essential for bone growth

Although i did get some facial bone remodeling due to my hypogonadism and prior subhuman test levels

i came off after 7 months due to vision problems / slight blindness

my test went down to 120s after coming off

 

[testosterone36]

id say pin asap

 

[True_North]

clomid can stall growth plate closure as it basically deactivates most of your estrogen

it put me from sub 300 test to 859 in 6-7 months but wasn’t the best experience

Clomid suppresses / lowers your igf1 which we all know is essential for bone growth

Although i did got some facial bone remodeling due to my hypogonadism and prior subhuman test levels

i came off after 7 months due to vision problems / slight blindness

my test went down to 120s after coming off

What made you want to use PCT over T for cruising 7 months? And would you still use clomid after pinning to jumpstart your nuts?

 

[testosterone36]

What made you want to use PCT over T for cruising 7 months? And would you still use clomid after pinning to jumpstart your nuts?

pretty sure my nuts never worked i have diagnosed hypogonadism

clomid was something i asked my doctor to try and he just gave it to me

i stayed on it way too long

i know nothing about it jumpstarting because in my personal experience my test crashed after hopping off

but it could be different if a non hypogonadal person were to take it

if u did take it id recommend no longer than 1-2 months on clomid

 

[True_North]

pretty sure my nuts never worked i have diagnosed hypogonadism

clomid was something i asked my doctor to try and he just gave it to me

i stayed on it way too long

i know nothing about it jumpstarting because in my personal experience my test crashed after hopping off

but it could be different if a non hypogonadal person were to take it

if u did take it id recommend no longer than 1-2 months on clomid

I think getting dumped induced some hypogonad shit from my hypothalamus signaling I'm bottom totem pole. Tbh I'm probably being retarded and should max myself out in the gym before dabbling with this, but SERMs are insanely tempting when you're in the pit.

Thanks man. And yeah I wouldn't do more than 10-12 weeks on T and 1 month on clomid. Personally I would also never touch HCG, the prospect of permanently damaging LH levels is terrifying.