Moderate-High TRT & Moderate Blasts don't aesthetically age you (may even age better)

[genetically fucked]

"High dose TRT"

if it helps you feel better

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

Dont think thats really how it works MPMD has said the evidence for that is theoretical. Just keep it stable in higher end of normal.

link, I thought I have to keep it between 10 to 15 to not rape my height

 

[Whirr22222]

link, I thought I have to keep it between 10 to 15 to not rape my height

He made a full length video about it. I never really was too interested in it because i hopped on at 21.

 

[7evenvox22]

Yeah 100% agree bro, the "responsibly enhanced chad" tier is honestly the sweet spot. moderate test + controlled E2 + low DHT = youthful skin, full hair, stable mood. Too many guys nuke their estrogen with AIs and then wonder why they look dry, old, and flat. I’ve seen the same thing once you crash E, hair and skin both tank hard. I’d even argue mild E elevation is protective long-term, just like in women. running 250-350mg test with dut or low-dose fin, barely touching AIs unless gyno flares up, seems optimal both health and aesthetic wise. The key is balance high T for collagen and energy, enough E2 to keep the skin elastic, and suppressed DHT to prevent miniaturization. Good write up btw, not many people realize hair loss and 'aging look' on gear are way more from mismanaging E2/DHT than the test dose itself.

 

[pentamogged9000]

What a fucking drooling retard you are.

Apart from your bullshit hairloss explanation, JFL @ thinking DHT even masculinises you outside of norwood, raped elastin, acne and subhuman facial hair.

2.5mg Dut or shotgun to the neurocranium.

I think he might be rage baiting hes so stupid.
0.5 is more than enough tho

please both of you keep taking gay 5 a reductase inhibitors

we will see who's right

 

[chadisbeingmade]

please both of you keep taking gay 5 a reductase inhibitors

we will see who's right

Think I was right mate. Been blasting 2.5mg for like a year and a half now. Never felt better, never better mentally, never looked better.

B…b..b but what about muh neurosteroids?????? I CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT MY NEUROSTEROIDIRINOS.

Fucking jester. Go spread your bullshit on r/tressless.

 

[MindOfBeni]

no 5ar inhibitor?

No

 

[arabcell]

I dont know how old you are but definitely you shouldn't be taking steroids as a teenager.

Do you think a 12-15 week cycle of 500mg of test and 30mg anavar on training days as a 17 year old would be detrimental?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Do you think a 12-15 week cycle of 500mg of test and 30mg anavar on training days as a 17 year old would be detrimental?

Yes

 

[arabcell]

Yes

Why so? With proper PCT and use of dut and accutane, i dont think any long term complications would occur

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Why so? With proper PCT and use of dut and accutane, i dont think any long term complications would occur

Ok argue.

Why did you ask then?

 

[arabcell]

Ok argue.

Why did you ask then?

because ur a smart guy maybe u know something i dont

 

[lasnt]

i don’t get why would you take TRT in first place? Is it for bodybuilding or low testosterone doesn’t make sense

 

[disillusioned]

Total cope.

 

[Davidproton]

Ashton Kutcher takes dut, went off as a precaution to impregnate his wife, had no problem.

Would you recommend dut to men who aren't balding and just for skin benefits?

 

[mtbsmasher]

Slightly elevated is beneficial for aesthetics. Especially if it's balanced with Test.

Theoretically it increases risk of certain tumors (AIs weren't invented for steroid users, they were invented for women as chemotherapy drugs)

Everyone's different, but it's also changed my libido to come in waves of massively horny to not horny at all, lasting a few days. It's still worth it for me. I may try 2x a week pinning to stabilize things. Its just inconvenient when youre always traveling place to place like me.


Agreed.


STFU retard You wont be reproducing with any women of genetic quality if youre bald!

yea ive noticed when i use an ai my libido goes down for like 1-2 days after taking it and i get incredibly depressed, like legit ready to kill myself the same day

 

[Alexander Sorgers]

How much Dut should i Take and how often

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

How much Dut should i Take and how often

0.5 - 2.5mg per day

 

[TitusA]

Think I was right mate. Been blasting 2.5mg for like a year and a half now. Never felt better, never better mentally, never looked better.

B…b..b but what about muh neurosteroids?????? I CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT MY NEUROSTEROIDIRINOS.

Fucking jester. Go spread your bullshit on r/tressless.

Whats ur test dose that ur taking with 2.5mg dut. Ive risked up to 300mg since starting 0.5g dut with no hair loss, wanna try 1 gram test and wonder if 2.5mg would be effective at that dose.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Whats ur test dose that ur taking with 2.5mg dut. Ive risked up to 300mg since starting 0.5g dut with no hair loss, wanna try 1 gram test and wonder if 2.5mg would be effective at that dose.

I take 2.5mg Dut regardless of the Test dose. I was on 2.5mg Dut + RU on 1g a week.

 

[Alexander Sorgers]

I take 2.5mg Dut regardless of the Test dose. I was on 2.5mg Dut + RU on 1g a week.

Which difference will there be between 0,5mg and 2,5

 

[Cannon.98]

What a fucking drooling retard you are.

Apart from your bullshit hairloss explanation, JFL @ thinking DHT even masculinises you outside of norwood, raped elastin, acne and subhuman facial hair.

2.5mg Dut or shotgun to the neurocranium.

Rape me if I’m wrong but only during puberty and the masculinization of the face would dht play a positive role in

 

[wannabemogger]

This isn't medical advice or a suggestion! It's just what I have seen in myself and observed in others I know irl and also certain fitness influencers, I have put the pieces together to explain it with simple physiology.

I've noticed many people (including me) on high dose (over 200mg) TRT and people doing moderate blast cycles (500-700mg Test, and even pairing with engineered hormones liked Anavar, Winstrol, Nandrolone, NO TREN, NO MASTERON, NO ANADROL) are aging quite well. I mean no hair loss and no accelerated visible skin aging, and even improvement.

Under these strict terms:

1. Test under 350mg
2. with 5-Alpha-Reductase Inhibitor (Preferably Dutatseride, but finasteride may work if you have good genetics)

That mans hormone profile would be:

1. 2-3x Natural Testosterone
2. 4-10x less natural DHT
3. 1.5 - 3x natural male estrogen levels and about 1/3 to 1/2 of natural female peak levels (female levels are naturally in phases)

A man with high T, elevated E, and supressed DHT might in fact see aging benefits compared to a ma.n with natural T, natural E, and Natural DHT.

	Natty Guy​	Responsibly Enhanced Chad​	Gymcel Blasting Grams​
Testosterone	Normal (or low)​	2-3x Natural​	5-20x Natural​
DHT	Normal​	Much Lower​	Elevated, even on Fin or Dut​
Estrogen	Normal​	Elevated but balanced with Test​	Hyper Elevated or Crashed if using AI​
Outcome	Normal aging - Usually looking old and tired and lost considerable hair by early 30s, and for many, even mid to late 20s depending on lifestyle and genetics.	Enhanced Aesthetic Aging - Reduced DHT and Elevated Estrogen nurture the hair and skin. May look the same or better at 30 than they did in early 20s (I've been noticing lots of cases like this)	Accelerated Aging on all levels. Skin: Collagen is raped. Wrinkles, sagging. Facial Muscle Activity: Forehead has deep lines, deep nasolabial folds and full neck/submental area from facial Muscle hypertrophy (Unaesthetic, meaty face) Hair: Bald or thin and unhealthy looking If not on AI (Aromatase Inhibitor): All of the above plus, bad gynecomastia from elevated estrogen. Higher cancer risk at these high E levels. If on an AI: Maybe no gyno but all the rest is compounded 3 fold because of crashed estrogen. In addition to aesthetic problems add bone porosity, tendon injuries, Cardiac and nerve dysfunction.

• Overuse of AROMATASE INHIBITORS are one of the main contributors to aesthetic and medical consequences on steroids, and this has been historically understated. Proper doses for the "Responsibly Enhanced Chad" category is way less than current guidlines are suggesting (if anything at all - but a very small and sporadic use may be ok)
• This is referring explicitly to AESTHETIC AGING meaning visible markers for age. Actual cellular/biological aging is still happening and admittedly, probably accelerated even on moderate dose TRT.

Personal story:
Ive been on TRT in the ranges of 200 - 450 for 2 years. About a year and a half in, I noticeabley gained hair density. Well, I temporarily went to 450mg test 6 months ago and a few weeks in I noticed some slightly puffy and sensitive nipples (still no shedding, and no bloat). So I got some Anatrazole and went by the medical guidelines of 0.5 - 1mg per day. This is what TRT doctors are prescribing. Within a few days I noticed HORRENDOUS SHEDDING. Clogging my shower drain every time I showered, even flooding the bathroom.

Of course I panicked and looked for a cause. Convention would say its obviously from the 450mg test. But I was skeptical because of the timing. I actually thought it was from partying too much which coincided with the incident. Things are never clear when its yourself, and youre in the middle a shitstorm. I consulted a dermatologist who was unhelpful (suggested Telogen Effluvium). I reduced the TRT back down to 250 to be safe, which also meant I didn't need the anastrozole anymore. Things stabilized pretty quickly and Im just now starting to see some regrowth from that major shed event.

A couple months later I was studying the OBGYN chapter for a medical licensing exam I'm taking and reviewed Postpartum Alopecia - when a woman sheds hair, sometimes devastating amounts, after giving birth because of the rapid estrogen crash. It hit me - thats definitely what happened when I took those AIs.

Now I'm on TRT350 take 0.25 anastrozole HERE AND THERE - as in once every couple weeks, if I feel nipples are getting slightly puffy. And everything's fine.......

DNR

 

[mtbsmasher]

I take 2.5mg Dut regardless of the Test dose. I was on 2.5mg Dut + RU on 1g a week.

do u use RU on face too? or only hair