That’s what I was thinking, makes sense
they do tend to have a short ramus though, but then again you also don't see really long ones that often on men either, at least not as long as mine.
So it’s the jaw following the maxilla and not the other way around?
Downward growth as in unnatural elongation is equally common but women have naturally shorter faces.
At what point is it unnatural? Is it determined by the gonial angle?
That's the best sign yea.
What angle would you say is the start of being down grown?
Generally anything over 90.
Thoughts on this @Arborist ?
correct if you're talking about the ramus, but that doesn't mean your jaw should be flat.
Can you explain further? 90 degree to what, his lower mandible or to the floor?correct if you're talking about the ramus, but that doesn't mean your jaw should be flat.
notice the ramus is close to a 90 degree angle on this guy, but his jaw still lowers past that.
Very interesting, thoughts @Dr. Bruh do you agree?
No it's cope. His ramus angle isn't even 90° and he is downgrown. It's also impossible to have 90° ramus angle without 90° gonial angle otherwise your tmj would be displaced.
By what definition?
both of these have similar jaw structure, different angle, the jaw drops past the ramus, which is close to a 90 degree angle.
No they have completely different gonial angles.
Put it in frankfurt plane jfl.
It's just to show that he mogs, I didn't mean he's recessed if that's what you understood it.
Yea but his maxilla is a little recessed.
wrong.
yes, but in your case it's the angle of the ramus rather than the depth of it.
Ok tell me what is the first guys gonial angle and the second guys. (If you even know what it means).
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Potato/10
irish corn farmer pheno.
Syrian mouthbreather.
def spic
thats like 117 mines looks like tht
It's Jordan Barrett
the angle of the ramus on it's own is close enough near it although it is not, the rest of the jaw isn't, his jaw slopes after the gonial angle.
alien mouthbreather in that case.
