Is drinking low calorie flavored drinks during leanmaxxing okay?

[11gaijin]

Anything which has a fruit flavor etc

 

[11gaijin]

@Lars thoughts?

 

[ChristianChad]

No

 

[Dastan]

It still spikes insulin response

 

[ChristianChad]

Yes

 

[11gaijin]

No

Yes

 

[11gaijin]

It still spikes insulin response

What does that mean and why is that bad?

 

[Dastan]

What does that mean and why is that bad?

Insulin blocks fat burning process, if you are in calorie deficit but for some reason your insulin levels are still high during cut you bodyweight will reduce but via lean tissue and not body fat which is bad

 

[11gaijin]

Insulin blocks fat burning process, if you are in calorie deficit but for some reason your insulin levels are still high during cut you bodyweight will reduce but via lean tissue and not body fat which is bad

I see thanks, will not go for it then, just stick to water

 

[Wallenberg]

if it fits your calories

 

[Deleted member 15569]

no but for some people they will want real sugar more after drinking

Insulin blocks fat burning process, if you are in calorie deficit but for some reason your insulin levels are still high during cut you bodyweight will reduce but via lean tissue and not body fat which is bad

dont listen to this retard, calories in calories out

 

[Dastan]

Or in case where insulin is still high but you are in calorie deficit you can end up not losing not only body fat but even total bodyweight bc body will decrease calories out (“metabolism”) and therefore you will be in calorie defecit according to the calculator you use but your body will lower the default calorie burning rates so you actually won’t be in a calorie deficit even though the calories in are still the same as before

 

[Dastan]

no but for some people they will want real sugar more after drinking

dont listen to this retard, calories in calories out

Read the reply above

 

[Dastan]

That doesn’t mean I disagree with CICO

 

[Deleted member 15569]

Read the reply above

proof?

Does diet soda inhibit fat loss?

It does not inhibit fat loss at all, and may actually suppress appetite that could help fat loss (although it does not induce fat loss per se either). Diet soda, in regards to body fat, is a carbonated inert beverage

examine.com

 

[fjor2096]

Sodium + Carbs bloat you so no

 

[Dastan]

proof?

Does diet soda inhibit fat loss?

It does not inhibit fat loss at all, and may actually suppress appetite that could help fat loss (although it does not induce fat loss per se either). Diet soda, in regards to body fat, is a carbonated inert beverage

examine.com

Drop in both insulin and leptin needed for fat burning to occur

Researchers have found that metabolism moves from using glucose to burning fat…

www.diabetes.co.uk

 

[Lars]

For sure!!
Only starchy carbs spike your insulin alot,
And always dose b1
Ironicly original red bulls make you lose weight faster because pro metabolism

 

[Tonymontana]

Anybody talking about insulin affecting fat loss in 2022 is an idiot.

Calories in calories out. Eat less than you burn in a day, lose weight/fat. That simple.

But beyond weight, your body composition at that weight will be different (160 lbs skinny fat vs 160 lbs shredded) based off MACRONUTRIENTS within your calorie target, and of course lifting.

0.8 gs protein/lb to retain/build muscle, at least 50 gs of fat/day for optimal testosterone/hormones.

Why drink something with calories even if low when you can drink diet sodas, or energy drinks that contain 0 calories?

 

[Dastan]

Anybody talking about insulin affecting fat loss in 2022 is an idiot.

Calories in calories out. Eat less than you burn in a day, lose weight/fat. That simple.

But beyond weight, your body composition at that weight will be different (160 lbs skinny fat vs 160 lbs shredded) based off MACRONUTRIENTS within your calorie target, and of course lifting.

0.8 gs protein/lb to retain/build muscle, at least 50 gs of fat/day for optimal testosterone/hormones.

Why drink something with calories even if low when you can drink diet sodas, or energy drinks that contain 0 calories?

Instead of being triggered by something which doesn’t sound similar to “calories in calories out” and have an instant response you should be mentally able to comprehend the information/logic inside the message and then based on that info respond TO THAT MESSAGE not something you made up in your mind. No one here in this thread had an argument against the truth of CICO in the first place, so your reply was initially based on misunderstanding or lack of some sort of mental ability