Is eastern europe going to be eaten by Russia in the near future

[LooksmaxxMyAss]

The west is tired of helping the Ukraine. Even Trump himself admitted that without their help Ukraine would be easily occupied by Russia.

Also Belarussian people don't mind becoming a part of "big russian family". The President of Belarus considered the possibility of joining Russia. Russia and Belarus are very friendly countries towards each other.

If Ukraine and Belarus become a part of Russia, will the entire eastern europe be fucked by russia? I am sure that after the capture of the two neighboring countries, they will begin to spread their influence to the Baltic countries and the Balkans.

 

[LooksmaxxMyAss]

@Jason Woorhees @anthony111553 @ThisCat @averagenormie @AustrianMogger

 

[Deleted member 91663]

View attachment 3784843View attachment 3784850The west is tired of helping the Ukraine. Even Trump himself admitted that without their help Ukraine would be easily occupied by Russia.

Also Belarussian people don't mind becoming a part of "big russian family". The President of Belarus considered the possibility of joining Russia. Russia and Belarus are very friendly countries towards each other.

If Ukraine and Belarus become a part of Russia, will the entire eastern europe be fucked by russia? I am sure that after the capture of the two neighboring countries, they will begin to spread their influence to the Baltic countries and the Balkans.

No, Putin just doesn't want NATO expansion into Ukraine and Georgia as he as been saying for almost 25 years.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

The moment Putin touches any Nato EE country, no fly zones are declared and Russians are gonna quake in their boots when Americans are deployed on the ground

 

[Jason Voorhees]

No. Americans will never let them.

 

[Panzram]

No, Putin just doesn't want NATO expansion into Ukraine and Georgia as he as been saying for almost 25 years.

"Noooo you bigot those countries want into NATO bcz Ruzzia makes them feel unsafe. NAFO is a safe space for demoncracy."

 

[Deleted member 91663]

"Noooo you bigot those countries want into NATO bcz Ruzzia makes them feel unsafe. NAFO is a safe space for demoncracy."

That's the thing. If I were Eastern European, I 100% would want to be part of the NATO umbrella.
That doesn't mean that it's not a security threat for Russia though!
Both statements can be true.

 

[Panzram]

The moment Putin touches any Nato EE country, no fly zones are declared and Russians are gonna quake in their boots when Americans are deployed on the ground

No. Americans will never let them.

Lol at thinking American zoomers are gonna bleed for some godforsaken shithole in EE. The draft is not gonna be easy this time, they killed the patriotism with Emma and her two moms. We will not see American troops deployed to fight Russia in Europe.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Lol at thinking American zoomers are gonna bleed for some godforsaken shithole in EE. The draft is not gonna be easy this time, they killed the patriotism with Emma and her two moms. We will not see American toops deployed to fight Russia in Europe.

They dont need a draft. The aircraft superiority is enough to outperform Russia in air. And air superiority is of essence in contemporary war. They will need shock troops to spear through Russian positions though and you dont need men for that, you need competent platoons

 

[Jason Voorhees]

U.S will use proxies or just bomb the shit out of them like they always do.

Lol at thinking American zoomers are gonna bleed for some godforsaken shithole in EE. The draft is not gonna be easy this time, they killed the patriotism with Emma and her two moms. We will not see American troops deployed to fight Russia in Europe.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Lol at thinking American zoomers are gonna bleed for some godforsaken shithole in EE. The draft is not gonna be easy this time, they killed the patriotism with Emma and her two moms. We will not see American troops deployed to fight Russia in Europe.

I thought this post well summarised the situation. I'm sure this is a controversial view here:

I know some will say Putin severely miscalculated but I don't think there is any compelling evidence that he wants to resurrect the USSR.

 

[Panzram]

resurrect the USSR

that is schizo nonsense
I agree with the post.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

that is schizo nonsense
I agree with the post.

I assure you, it's the mainstream view in the West.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

I thought this post well summarised the situation. I'm sure this is a controversial view here:
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I know some will say Putin severely miscalculated but I don't think there is any compelling evidence that he wants to resurrect the USSR.

Russia simply isnt as technologically competent as it used to be. They dont have the capacity to overpower a few scattered American platformed weapons. If those weapons are used consistently, Russia is just no match.

 

[Panzram]

U.S will use proxies or just bomb the shit out of them like they always do.

Bombing the shit out of Russia is not gonna work. Proxies are the most probable means. Like Poland.

 

[Panzram]

They dont have the capacity to overpower a few scattered American platformed weapons

What do you mean? Elaborate

 

[It'snotover]

"Noooo you bigot those countries want into NATO bcz Ruzzia makes them feel unsafe. NAFO is a safe space for demoncracy."

I read this shit every morning by retards stuffed with propaganda and this makes me wanna kms

No, Putin just doesn't want NATO expansion into Ukraine and Georgia as he as been saying for almost 25 years.

True. Meanwhile Europe especially germany is going to shift to a war focused economy, just like their so hated enemy Russia.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

What do you mean? Elaborate

Ukraine has been getting some help from America. The problem is, Ukrainian operators simoly dont have the experience and training to use those platforms. Moreover, America's killer card aka its best aircraft are not given to Ukriane. Soince Russia cant overpower this, its doubtful they'll handle skilled operators with plenty of platforms.

 

[Aypo129]

Russia simply isnt as technologically competent as it used to be. They dont have the capacity to overpower a few scattered American platformed weapons. If those weapons are used consistently, Russia is just no match.

It was never technologically competent that's just myth they created for themselves

I wonder when the Chinese will be exposed in the manner similar to russians

 

[Panzram]

germany is going to shift to a war focused economy,

Allready happening. We know how german rearmament goes

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Russia simply isnt as technologically competent as it used to be. They dont have the capacity to overpower a few scattered American platformed weapons. If those weapons are used consistently, Russia is just no match.

Russia struggles to keep even former Central Asian soviet republics in it orbit.
That being said, I don't think Russia ever wanted a direct conflict with the United States.

I believe Putin is a moderating force in Russia and that a lot of military hardline liners would like to mass mobilize and annex the entire country.

 

[Pento]

They can’t even capture Ukraine what makes you think they’ll get the rest of EE

 

[jockidc120610]

View attachment 3784843View attachment 3784850The west is tired of helping the Ukraine. Even Trump himself admitted that without their help Ukraine would be easily occupied by Russia.

Also Belarussian people don't mind becoming a part of "big russian family". The President of Belarus considered the possibility of joining Russia. Russia and Belarus are very friendly countries towards each other.

If Ukraine and Belarus become a part of Russia, will the entire eastern europe be fucked by russia? I am sure that after the capture of the two neighboring countries, they will begin to spread their influence to the Baltic countries and the Balkans.

no cuz Nato and Montenegro exist,also Posnia

 

[Deleted member 91663]

They can’t even capture Ukraine what makes you think they’ll get the rest of EE

They don't want to take all of Ukraine, just the Russian speaking parts.
Putin is sensitive about casualties, which is why he has resisted further mobilization.
Wars can tank even the most popular of regimes. Look at what Iraq did to Bush

 

[Panzram]

Soince Russia cant overpower this,

They have destroyed any single system that was sent. They obv can't destroy them all/in sufficient quantities to win the war. NATO with America, and only with America rapes Russia on the ground in Europe. NAFO without the US, despite all the support I don't think is capable of that.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Russia struggles to keep even former Central Asian soviet republics in it orbit.
That being said, I don't think Russia ever wanted a direct conflict with the United States.

I believe Putin is a moderating force in Russia and that a lot of military hardline liners would like to mass mobilize and annex the entire country.

Yeah, even delusional generals in the War Plans room of Russia knows that if they piss off USA, its game over. How are they gonna fight against the biggest fleet and Air Force in the world that too the most technologically advanced ?

You can fault USA for many things. Its army rapes every country 10 times over though and thats simply the case. No one is gonna touch NATO allies as long this holds true

 

[pajjeetslayer]

Ukraine has been getting some help from America. The problem is, Ukrainian operators simoly dont have the experience and training to use those platforms. Moreover, America's killer card aka its best aircraft are not given to Ukriane. Soince Russia cant overpower this, its doubtful they'll handle skilled operators with plenty of platforms.

Haven’t read all your replies but I live in EE and a lot of the people here are scared of a Russian invasion teens age 13-18 are having mandatory gun shooting training and general survival tactics thought 2 them and a lot of the adults are buying guys and survival kits also on the Lithuanian and Latvian boarder Russians are have the exact same mandatory training for their troops in September I think so things could very well still go to shit

 

[It'snotover]

Allready happening. We know how german rearmament goes

True, they are converting all the car factories into gun factories. In the last days i saw a lot of copium from Western media about Russia attacking Finland or EE Ridiculous propaganda. How would America react if Mexico would point russian rockets on NYC? Probably not well. That's how this useless war started. Muh rebuild USRR is the goal

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

They have destroyed any single system that was sent. They obv can't destroy them all/in sufficient quantities to win the war. NATO with America, and only with America rapes Russia on the ground in Europe. NAFO without the US, despite all the support I don't think is capable of that.

Yeah they are suffering casualties and destroying. Those Patriots are not sitting idle

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Yeah, even delusional generals in the War Plans room of Russia knows that if they piss off USA, its game over. How are they gonna fight against the biggest fleet and Air Force in the world that too the most technologically advanced ?

You can fault USA for many things. Its army rapes every country 10 times over though and thats simply the case. No one is gonna touch NATO allies as long this holds true

You're right but the question of whether Donabas is Russian or Ukrainian is not a vital strategic interest to America.
It is to Russia though and they have proven it in blood. The Americans will not go to war for Ukraine.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Bombing the shit out of Russia is not gonna work. Proxies are the most probable means. Like Poland.

Yeah. US funneled support to the Mujahideen fighting Soviet forces after the USSR invaded Afghanistan, turning the war into a proxy battle that contributed heavily to Soviet withdrawal..US throws money and military muscle at the problem alliances, airbases, aid- blunt-force geopolitics.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

You're right but the question of whether Donabas is Russian or Ukrainian is not a vital strategic interest to America.
It is to Russia though and they have proven it in blood. The Americans will not go to war for Ukraine.

America already doesnt give a shit about Ukraine. I bet the Generals like giving support because their only focus is on projecting force everywhere but Presidents are not that much interested. The rest of Eastern Europe though, its a different story since some are in NATO

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Yeah. US funneled support to the Mujahideen fighting Soviet forces after the USSR invaded Afghanistan, turning the war into a proxy battle that contributed heavily to Soviet withdrawal..US throws money and military muscle at the problem alliances, airbases, aid- blunt-force geopolitics.

The US played a key role in ousting Imran Khan in Pakistan not long ago.

 

[LooksmaxxMyAss]

They can’t even capture Ukraine

Maybe because almost all of Europe and the USA are helping them?

what makes you think they’ll get the rest of EE

Russia is one of the most powerful countries in the world. They fucked the whole of Eastern Europe from the 19th century to the end of the 20th

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yeah, even delusional generals in the War Plans room of Russia knows that if they piss off USA, its game over. How are they gonna fight against the biggest fleet and Air Force in the world that too the most technologically advanced ?

You can fault USA for many things. Its army rapes every country 10 times over though and thats simply the case. No one is gonna touch NATO allies as long this holds true

Russia is far from being helpless state at mercy either tho.

Crimea, Syria, and Eastern Ukraine -making moves that catch a lot of people off guard. Thry have huge nuclear arsenal, s-400,s500 air defenses, and serious cyber skills, they're built to hold their own and push back hard when needed. That's why the US and its allies often choose to play it smart, backing proxies and using indirect pressure instead of jumping into a full-on fight.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Maybe because almost all of Europe and the USA are helping them?

Russia is one of the most powerful countries in the world. They fucked the whole of Eastern Europe from the 19th century to the end of the 20thView attachment 3784937View attachment 3784942

You are living in the past. You think Russian jets are any match for American jets ? That alone fucks Russians up sognificantly ?

 

[pajjeetslayer]

America already doesnt give a shit about Ukraine. I bet the Generals like giving support because their only focus is on projecting force everywhere but Presidents are not that much interested. The rest of Eastern Europe though, its a different story since some are in NATO

The chance of invasion could still be possible due to the us not wanting nuclear war with Russia they could just start taking bit by bit Eastern Europe

 

[Deleted member 91663]

America already doesnt give a shit about Ukraine. I bet the Generals like giving support because their only focus is on projecting force everywhere but Presidents are not that much interested. The rest of Eastern Europe though, its a different story since some are in NATO

I still believe the US has tied itself to the losing side of a regional war.
Cutting Ukraine and re-orienting to the Pacific should have been Trump's priority imo.
I know you'll disagree with this.

 

[Pento]

Maybe because almost all of Europe and the USA are helping them?

Russia is one of the most powerful countries in the world. They fucked the whole of Eastern Europe from the 19th century to the end of the 20thView attachment 3784937View attachment 3784942

Lol they’re a shell of their former self. All Russia can do is sustain itself now.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Russia is far from being helpless state at mercy either tho.

Crimea, Syria, and Eastern Ukraine -making moves that catch a lot of people off guard. Thry have huge nuclear arsenal, s-400,s500 air defenses, and serious cyber skills, they're built to hold their own and push back hard when needed. That's why the US and its allies often choose to play it smart, backing proxies and using indirect pressure instead of jumping into a full-on fight.

Before those S-400s arrive the Air Force will be there. A no fly zone is first in any breach. Russia is not helpless but its military is no match against USA. All the wars USA have lost is because of political incompetence not military. You think Russia has technological advantage in any single field if USA gets serious ?

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

I still believe the US has tied itself to the losing side of a regional war.
Cutting Ukraine and re-orienting to the Pacific should have been Trump's priority imo.
I know you'll disagree with this.

Ukraine is corrupt through and through. This wishy washy policy is not helping USA. Either help them through this or stop talking about it. They shoud have joined NATO in 2014 after the protests quickly but oh well

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Lol they’re a shell of their former self. All Russia can do is sustain itself now.

Russia is one of the only self sustaining countries after the United States.
Yes they are not as powerful as they once were but are still very powerful militarily compared to the Europeans and a respectable 2nd/3rd place.
We shouldn't underrate that.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

The chance of invasion could still be possible due to the us not wanting nuclear war with Russia they could just start taking bit by bit Eastern Europe

They can take non NATO countries but NATO is out of question

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Ukraine is corrupt through and through. This wishy washy policy is not helping USA. Either help them through this or stop talking about it. They shoud have joined NATO in 2014 after the protests quickly but oh well

Putin would not have stopped at Crimea or Donbas if Ukraine had announced their intention to join NATO in 2014.
They were fucked from the beginning.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Lol they’re a shell of their former self. All Russia can do is sustain itself now.

Lol they’re a shell of their former self. All Russia can do is sustain itself now.

despite sanctions Russia has maintained military operations in Ukraine with ongoing advances in regions like Donbas, Syria in 2015 also secured a long-term foothold in the Middle East Russia's energy exports to Europe and China remain a vital lever-Europe still relies heavily on Russian gas, giving Moscow bargaining power despite sanctions. Additionally, Russia's growing ties with China and Iran helped it bypass Western restrictions and stabilize its economy.

Russia isn't weak..it can still cause a serious dent. They aren't winning s direct confrontation with NATO but nobody has the balls to attack Russia head on.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Putin would not have stopped at Crimea or Donbas if Ukraine had announced their intention to join NATO in 2014.
They were fucked from the beginning.

Putin was more subtle back then. Engaging the USA would mean political suicide, Russian Generals would piss their pants and so would American Generals but when you have money, numbers and force projecting military pissing your pants is not such a big deal.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Putin was more sublte back then. Engaging the USA would mean political suicide, Russian Generals would piss their pants and so would American Generals but when you have money, numbers and force projecting military pissing your pants is not such a big deal.

Perhaps but Ukraine was not ready for a direct conflict with Russia then.
Putin could have rolled into the country with minimal casualties during the disarray of maidan.
It was a risk but likely a risk worth taking by calling the American's bluff.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Perhaps but Ukraine was not ready for a direct conflict with Russia then.
Putin could have rolled into the country with minimal casualties during the disarray of maidan.
It was a risk but likely a risk worth taking by calling the American's bluff.

All it comes down to imo. Do you risk getting 5th gen fighters on your borders or do you play it cool. But it dodnt happen so it doesnt matter anyway. I dont know why they are followijg this wishy washy shit though

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Before those S-400s arrive the Air Force will be there. A no fly zone is first in any breach. Russia is not helpless but its military is no match against USA. All the wars USA have lost is because of political incompetence not military. You think Russia has technological advantage in any single field if USA gets serious ?

Russia also has hypersonic missiles like the Kinzhal and Avangard give them a strike capability the U.S. can't fully counter yet. They also used cyber attacks in Ukraine has disrupted Western communications and drone operations. In Syria Russian air powe turned the tide for Assad's regime despite facing tge coalition . U.S. is unmoggable in terms of military but Russian nukes and special weapons and tactics make them a serious threat. Russia is not Vietnam or Afghanistan.

 

[pajjeetslayer]

They can take non NATO countries but NATO is out of question

Put can just larp with taking the baltics cuz max it would take to take those countries is like a day or two and he could larp his way into getting the oil reserves and other recourses from Ukraine in exhange for Ukraine