Is eugenics a viable model for the future of humanity?

[fr0st]

@fr0st You're right, eugenics isn't for everyone. It's for the future. Not all individuals will benefit, that's the point. That is the cost of racial and civilisational advancement. Weakness, mediocrity, and unpredictability have always held us back. Letting everyone breed because "you never know who might be a genius" is gambling with the bloodline.

The fact that selective breeding takes hundreds of years is precisely why it should start early and enforced by a powerful, unified state. Revolutions come and go, but the racial soul of a people endures.

As for production, mass labour from inferior stock is not a strength — it's a burden. The future belongs to quality, not quantity. India may outnumber us here in the UK, but they will never outclass us unless we abandon our blood.

Yes, instinct drives reproduction, but the purpose of the state is to channel instincts, not obey them. Discipline in breeding is no different than that of it in war time. Those who can't submit to that role have no place in the future.

Eugenics is not about fairness, that's a childish argument: nothing is fair. It's about the biological survival of a higher typ eof people.

I don't have enough knowledge in eugenics both in the science of it nor the morality of it so I'll leave the argument up to debate. I don't want to argue something that I don't know much about all I know is that I wouldn't appreciate it if the government came and clipped my balls off.

 

[imontheloose]

Same problem as commuism

Communism is a Jewish invention created to destroy nations inside out. All of the communist intellectuals, Marx, Trotsky, Lenin are all part of the same racial agenda to erase blood, class, identity, and tradition. It promoted equality not as an ideal, rather a weapon to level us so it can be dominated by the raceless, rootless international Jew.

Eugenics is the exact opposite: it is rooted in blood, race, and natural hierarchy. Where communism tears down the superior in favour of the weak, eugenics eliminates the weak to strengthen the race. Where communism abolishes family and nation, eugenics preserves and purifies them.

Yes, both require the state if that's what you're saying — yet for vastly different purposes: communism uses the state to enforce decay; eugenics uses it to engineer renewal.

The danger is not a centralised control, rather who controls it: racial traitors or racial patriots.

 

[Jonas2k7]

IQ and other factors acts as natural eugenics, best would be not disturbing this process by not making it easier for humans to survive.

 

[imontheloose]

@Aladin @gribsufer1 @IOS @heightmaxxing @psychomandible thoughts?

 

[neurosis]

IQ and other factors acts as natural eugenics, best would be not disturbing this process by not making it easier for humans to survive.

all forms of law and welfare disturb 'the process' tho

 

[Gargantuan]

That's what the end goal for the elites is imo, depopulation through eugenics. I've always maintained that the COVID vaccines were a part of this eugenics program.

 

[imontheloose]

IQ and other factors acts as natural eugenics, best would be not disturbing this process by not making it easier for humans to survive.

That's a form of laissez-faire eugenics; a more Darwinist-libertarian view. You're assuming nature is enough; it isn't. Nature selects slowly, blindly, and often inefficiently. Yes, IQ and strength create natural filters, but modern society, through medicine, welfare, and fake compassion, actively protects the unfit and allows degeneration to flourish. That's decay, not nature.

A racial state doesn't just observe evolution, it should direct it. True eugenics is nature with intelligence. It steps in where natural selection is being blocked and it accelerates the rise of superior types. Letting nature "sort it out" so to say, without guidance, is how great races fall whilst parasites multiply.

Left alone, weeds overtake the garden.

 

[imontheloose]

That's what the end goal for the elites is imo, depopulation through eugenics. I've always maintained that the COVID vaccines were a part of this eugenics program.

I feel this is half right, personally. There is a eugenics program, I agree there, but it's not for the benefit of the people. It's managed by rootless, global elites, using vaccines, biotech, and media to weaken the racial core of nations. This isn't true eugenics, it's anti-eugenics: sterilising the strong, confusing gender, protecting the defective. (((Their))) goal isn't improvement, it's dissolution.

Real eugenics isn't done in the shadows. It is national, racial, unapologetic, and guided by biological truth — not hidden behind pharmaceutical lies.

The solution isn't to fear eugenics. It's to take it back from those who are using it to erase us. The spineless, international Jew.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

IQ and other factors acts as natural eugenics, best would be not disturbing this process by not making it easier for humans to survive.

What are you talking about, low iq people , poor people are the ones who are getting kids , those animals are breeding like rabbits

 

[imontheloose]

What are you talking about, low iq people are the ones who are getting kids , those animals are breeding like rabbits

Good to see you here buddy.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

That's what the end goal for the elites is imo, depopulation through eugenics. I've always maintained that the COVID vaccines were a part of this eugenics program.

Covid vaccines are safe + no that plan is dumb in so many ways

 

[Hitlerstopguy05]

Seems so. Just as a farmer would select the strongest seed to produce a better harvest, the state should ensure that only the healthiest and most racially valuable to the state should reproduce. Only seems like cruelty to copecelling retards.

Nature operates on principles of selection: the strong survive, the weak perish; yet modern civilisation has allowed the weak, diseased, and degenerate to not only survive, but multiply through medicine, charity, and misplaced compassion. Quite literally a betrayal of nature. If you allowed inherited defects whether that be physical, mental, moral, or whatever else, to spread, you just dilute the nation's strength. Crime, mental illness, and even poverty you can argue, are often rooted in blood rather than muh socioeconomic factors.

Eugenics raises the biological quality of the people; over generations, it produces a healthier, more intelligent population. Just as you protect forests from blight and cattle from disease, the people's blood should be protected against degeneracy, as an umbrella term. It isn't a hatred thing.

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@Jason Voorhees @BigJimsWornOutTires @DR. NICKGA @Gargantuan @PsychoH

Problems could arise when a population is too well adapted to the curent enviorment and perishes because the world around it is changing

 

[Beastimmung]

That's what the end goal for the elites is imo, depopulation through eugenics. I've always maintained that the COVID vaccines were a part of this eugenics program.

Nah the current elites are way too gay for that.

The current system actually needs as many people to manage as possible, everything needs to be a process that can be handled by them.

Covid vaccines don't really kill you directly, they just make you sickly and make you rely on medical institutions more cause you destroyed your natural defenses.

 

[imontheloose]

Problems could arise when a population is too well adapted to the curent enviorment and perishes because the world around it is changing

That's a risk but only if we mistake eugenics for narrow perfection. True racial science doesn't breed for one moment in time. It breeds for strength, adaptability, discipline, and will, all of which will endure across any environment.

It's not about making docile specialists for a consumer society. It's about cultivating a resilient, biologically noble population prepared for struggle, not comfort.

Degenerate societies will die not only because they lack genetic adaptability, but because they lack the will to survive change too. A race that is pure, vital, and rooted in strength can face any future as long as it is not corrupted in the present time.

 

[Beastimmung]

That's natural selection. Eugenics is artificial.

Disallowing siblings to reproduce is also eugenics in practice today

Eugenics in practice today:

 

[Snicket]

Disallowing siblings to reproduce is also eugenics in practice today

Eugenics in practice today:
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Fair, I've always thought of eugenics as gene modification but that's not true based on definitions I could find.

 

[Hitlerstopguy05]

That's a risk but only if we mistake eugenics for narrow perfection. True racial science doesn't breed for one moment in time. It breeds for strength, adaptability, discipline, and will, all of which will endure across any environment.

It's not about making docile specialists for a consumer society. It's about cultivating a resilient, biologically noble population prepared for struggle, not comfort.

Degenerate societies will die not only because they lack genetic adaptability, but because they lack the will to survive change too. A race that is pure, vital, and rooted in strength can face any future as long as it is not corrupted in the present time.

Genetics aren't everything. The Degeneracy we see in the West today could be caused by the Planet self regulating before we consume it due to our massive population. Humans are fucked up on a hormonal level. The Chemicals in our brain are all over the place and we rationalize that through anti natalist politics. The Current state of the World basically replicates the Mouse Utopia study. The Humans that will survive the coming doom will for sure be some of the most resilient that ever walked the Earth.

 

[Hitlerstopguy05]

Fair, I've always thought of eugenics as gene modification but that's not true based on definitions I could find.

Bro uses the Interweb

 

[Snicket]

Bro uses the Interweb

In Oxford dictionary. I trust.

 

[imontheloose]

Genetics aren't everything. The Degeneracy we see in the West today could be caused by the Planet self regulating before we consume it due to our massive population. Humans are fucked up on a hormonal level. The Chemicals in our brain are all over the place and we rationalize that through anti natalist politics. The Current state of the World basically replicates the Mouse Utopia study. The Humans that will survive the coming doom will for sure be some of the most resilient that ever walked the Earth.

What you describe as "self-regulation" is just collapse. And collapse doesn't select the best, it selects the lucky. Do you want the future shaped by who happens to be left standing in chaos? That's not evolution, that's gambling with our bloodline like I've stated earlier.

Yes, the West is degenerate. Yes, our hormones are out of balance, instincts are inverted, and our culture is sick. But that is precisely why guidance, not surrender, is needed. If you see the world spiralling into decay, why would you let chance decide what rises from its ashes?

The coming storm isn't nature's judgement, it's the result of weakness and compromise. Eugenics is not about preventing hardship, it's about ensuring that the right kind of people emerge from it.

 

[imontheloose]

In Oxford dictionary. I trust.

Shame your beloved Old Quad is overhyped.

 

[CorinthianLOX]

Seems so. Just as a farmer would select the strongest seed to produce a better harvest, the state should ensure that only the healthiest and most racially valuable to the state should reproduce. Only seems like cruelty to copecelling retards.

Nature operates on principles of selection: the strong survive, the weak perish; yet modern civilisation has allowed the weak, diseased, and degenerate to not only survive, but multiply through medicine, charity, and misplaced compassion. Quite literally a betrayal of nature. If you allowed inherited defects whether that be physical, mental, moral, or whatever else, to spread, you just dilute the nation's strength. Crime, mental illness, and even poverty you can argue, are often rooted in blood rather than muh socioeconomic factors.

Eugenics raises the biological quality of the people; over generations, it produces a healthier, more intelligent population. Just as you protect forests from blight and cattle from disease, the people's blood should be protected against degeneracy, as an umbrella term. It isn't a hatred thing.

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@Jason Voorhees @BigJimsWornOutTires @DR. NICKGA @Gargantuan @PsychoH

I agree with this 100 percent. Even plato agreed with this back in the day.

 

[CorinthianLOX]

That's natural selection. Eugenics is artificial.

Eugenics is natural selection that is applied in an artificial manner

 

[Hitlerstopguy05]

What you describe as "self-regulation" is just collapse. And collapse doesn't select the best, it selects the lucky. Do you want the future shaped by who happens to be left standing in chaos? That's not evolution, that's gambling with our bloodline like I've stated earlier.

Yes, the West is degenerate. Yes, our hormones are out of balance, instincts are inverted, and our culture is sick. But that is precisely why guidance, not surrender, is needed. If you see the world spiralling into decay, why would you let chance decide what rises from its ashes?

The coming storm isn't nature's judgement, it's the result of weakness and compromise. Eugenics is not about preventing hardship, it's about ensuring that the right kind of people emerge from it.

We are too far gone into this, a near extinction event is happening wheter we like it or not. All countries not just the west are expiriencing declining birthrates. The lucky are the worthiest of survival, they were the most adaptable after all, that is pure natural selection.

 

[imontheloose]

@Gengar @Mess @not__cel @R@m@ @Shrek2OnDvD thoughts?

 

[Gengar]

@Gengar @Mess @not__cel @R@m@ @Shrek2OnDvD thoughts?

Sure.

 

[Mess]

Think of how much smarter, handsome and taller the average male would be if selective breeding was socially acceptable.

 

[Hitlerstopguy05]

Think of how much smarter, handsome and taller the average male would be if selective breeding was socially acceptable.

It wouldn't be anything special really

 

[PsychoH]

Seems so. Just as a farmer would select the strongest seed to produce a better harvest, the state should ensure that only the healthiest and most racially valuable to the state should reproduce. Only seems like cruelty to copecelling retards.

Nature operates on principles of selection: the strong survive, the weak perish; yet modern civilisation has allowed the weak, diseased, and degenerate to not only survive, but multiply through medicine, charity, and misplaced compassion. Quite literally a betrayal of nature. If you allowed inherited defects whether that be physical, mental, moral, or whatever else, to spread, you just dilute the nation's strength. Crime, mental illness, and even poverty you can argue, are often rooted in blood rather than muh socioeconomic factors.

Eugenics raises the biological quality of the people; over generations, it produces a healthier, more intelligent population. Just as you protect forests from blight and cattle from disease, the people's blood should be protected against degeneracy, as an umbrella term. It isn't a hatred thing.

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@Jason Voorhees @BigJimsWornOutTires @DR. NICKGA @Gargantuan @PsychoH

Won’t happen for the regular folk sadly.

 

[imabetanumale]

Yes but i would feel alienated since i Will not be part of humanity

 

[gribsufer1]

Seems so. Just as a farmer would select the strongest seed to produce a better harvest, the state should ensure that only the healthiest and most racially valuable to the state should reproduce. Only seems like cruelty to copecelling retards.

Nature operates on principles of selection: the strong survive, the weak perish; yet modern civilisation has allowed the weak, diseased, and degenerate to not only survive, but multiply through medicine, charity, and misplaced compassion. Quite literally a betrayal of nature. If you allowed inherited defects whether that be physical, mental, moral, or whatever else, to spread, you just dilute the nation's strength. Crime, mental illness, and even poverty you can argue, are often rooted in blood rather than muh socioeconomic factors.

Eugenics raises the biological quality of the people; over generations, it produces a healthier, more intelligent population. Just as you protect forests from blight and cattle from disease, the people's blood should be protected against degeneracy, as an umbrella term. It isn't a hatred thing.

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@Jason Voorhees @BigJimsWornOutTires @DR. NICKGA @Gargantuan @PsychoH

youre an idiot, eugenics isnt just viable, its optimal, modern life hasn't allowed the weak to live, its allowed the strong, the beautiful, the good to be completely erased at the hands of the free sexual market which allows all sorts of looks mismatches and dysgenic stuff , setting aside the total degradation of the soul and character, survival od the fittest is an idiotic saying, its just the most conformed to the environment gets to not die, with eugenics, we can actively terraform our world

 

[psychomandible]

That's natural selection. Eugenics is artificial.

He is still correct

 

[thenewhebbe]

Covid vaccines don't really kill you directly, they just make you sickly and make you rely on medical institutions more cause you destroyed your natural dedefenses.

Why would they need that people already is reliant on medical institustion

 

[imontheloose]

youre an idiot, eugenics isnt just viable, its optimal, modern life hasn't allowed the weak to live, its allowed the strong, the beautiful, the good to be completely erased at the hands of the free sexual market which allows all sorts of looks mismatches and dysgenic stuff , setting aside the total degradation of the soul and character, survival od the fittest is an idiotic saying, its just the most conformed to the environment gets to not die, with eugenics, we can actively terraform our world

That’s exactly what I’m saying. I merely added that as a title to strike discussion with people man.

 

[Aladin]

Stop being so High IQ the jews will notice you.

 

[not__cel]

Geneotypes and alleles are extremely unpredictable and it's impossible to isolate all environmental variables.. Scientists have to go through dozens of generations of mice until they find someone with the desirable traits and mice have 10x more kids than humans. Eugenics for humans is very difficult implement. Selective breeding does works, but it takes hundreds of years, multiple generations and it doesn't always go according to how you've planned.

It being implemented legally is a start, first start ethnically then continue and continue and eventually the desirable traits will be the only thing left

Undesirables are not included of course
(ethnics, mutts, disabled ect)

 

[not__cel]

Intelligence, race and mental stability are things eugenics is needed for