is extracting premolars for decompensation just fucking cope?

[Deleted member 385]

yea

 

[AcneScars]

It’s not just cope its a looksmin

 

[lutte]

obv not if you can do larger movements

 

[lutte]

@Sergio-OMS @RealSurgerymax thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 385]

i am mild class 3 so probably domt even need to remove premolars

 

[Deleted member 4790]

do not extract premolars.

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

are there other options?

 

[Deleted member 385]

do not extract premolars.

ok sounds good. i am mild class 3 that is compensated with previous ortho by tipping maxillary incisors . probably dont need much bsso movement

 

[Gaia262]

ok sounds good. i am mild class 3 that is compensated with previous ortho by tipping maxillary incisors . probably dont need much bsso movement

I think you should clarify to Sergio that you are decompensating for jaw surgery.

I think he is assuming you mean normal retraction orthodontics without surgery.

 

[Deleted member 385]

I think you should clarify to Sergio that you are decompensating for jaw surgery.

I think he is assuming you mean normal retraction orthodontics without surgery.

You’re coping if you think pre molars extractions do shit
Maybe if you’re a class 2 cel but not for class 3 moggers

 

[Deleted member 385]

I think you should clarify to Sergio that you are decompensating for jaw surgery.

I think he is assuming you mean normal retraction orthodontics without surgery.

Decompensation insinuates you still get surgery

then what the fuck is point of decompensating jfl

 

[Deleted member 4790]

Decompensation insinuates you still get surgery

then what the fuck is point of decompensating jfl

I understood that you were getting jaw surgery. I don’t know the details of your case and, no offence, I don’t want to.

My answer is still the same. I don’t advice extractions of premolars, in general, when preparing for jaw surgery,

 

[Deleted member 385]

I understood that you were getting jaw surgery. I don’t know the details of your case and, no offence, I don’t want to.

My answer is still the same. I don’t advice extractions of premolars, in general, when preparing for jaw surgery,

But doc my case is quite interesting. If this goes right I could become chadlite

 

[Deleted member 4790]

ok sounds good. i am mild class 3 that is compensated with previous ortho by tipping maxillary incisors . probably dont need much bsso movement

You might need malar implants or a bimax and a previous MSE / SARME, but it is better than extracting teeth, in my opinion.

 

[everythingisacope]

do not extract premolars.

based surgeon.All jewish dentists hate him

 

[Deleted member 385]

You might need malar implants or a bimax and a previous MSE / SARME, but it is better than extracting teeth, in my opinion.

Can I send you a picture of my palate ?

 

[spark]

I understood that you were getting jaw surgery. I don’t know the details of your case and, no offence, I don’t want to.

My answer is still the same. I don’t advice extractions of premolars, in general, when preparing for jaw surgery,

Is it possible so salvage wisdom teeth? I know Coceancig routinely extracts them as do other maxfac surgeons. Mine are partially erupted

and with a jaw surgery there surely would be enough space for them. I just do not want more extractions. Your thoughts? Is it possible not to extract them?

 

[Deleted member 4790]

Is it possible so salvage wisdom teeth? I know Coceancig routinely extracts them as do other maxfac surgeons. Mine are partially erupted
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and with a jaw surgery there surely would be enough space for them. I just do not want more extractions. Your thoughts? Is it possible not to extract them?

In some patients it is possible to keep them, but rarely. Just follow your surgeon's advice. With IMDO it is more probable to be able to keep them, as it creates bone, but wisdom teeth are normally in the middle of the BSSO lines.

Wisdom teeth are not that important. It is good to have them erupted and in a good occlusion as it means that your jaws have developed correctly, but once they are out (or once you see that they can't get out)...

 

[mewcoper]

In some patients it is possible to keep them, but rarely. Just follow your surgeon's advice. With IMDO it is more probable to be able to keep them, as it creates bone, but wisdom teeth are normally in the middle of the BSSO lines.

Wisdom teeth are not that important. It is good to have them erupted and in a good occlusion as it means that your jaws have developed correctly, but once they are out (or once you see that they can't get out)...

I got removed my premolars + i will removed my wisdom teeths soon either for surgery, is that really bad ? My ortho conviced me for more advencement.

 

[mewcoper]

You might need malar implants or a bimax and a previous MSE / SARME, but it is better than extracting teeth, in my opinion.

could you explain more can it cause bone resorption ?

 

[Deleted member 385]

@ascentium

 

[ascentium]

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lots of cope

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

@Sergio-OMS what do you think about imdo then do a procedure like aso but extracting the newly grown gum area instead of teeth?

 

[Deleted member 4790]

@Sergio-OMS what do you think about imdo then do a procedure like aso but extracting the newly grown gum area instead of teeth?

Sorry I don’t understand this

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Sorry I don’t understand this

you know when you do imdo there is new gum space created between the two molars(i believe?)
this is ASO

can you do a procedure like that but instead of extracting teeth you cut off that new gum space
result would be like bimax w/o extraction

 

[Deleted member 385]

Sorry I don’t understand this

I have compensated occlusion but they want to do bimax on me
ehat do I do

 

[Deleted member 4790]

I have compensated occlusion but they want to do bimax on me
ehat do I do

Let them do their job

 

[Deleted member 4790]

you know when you do imdo there is new gum space created between the two molars(i believe?)
this is ASO
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can you do a procedure like that but instead of extracting teeth you cut off that new gum space
result would be like bimax w/o extraction

Why would you want to create bone and gum and then remove that new tissues ?

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Why would you want to create bone and gum and then remove that new tissues ?

for the aesthetic benefit. i just want a more projected jaw without moving the teeth

 

[SixCRY]

if you want bigger movement, compensate with CCW, like Arnett do

He goes up to 25degree CCW in some of his case,

That's why he's top 0.1% surgeon

CCW is everything to get bigger movement

 

[SixCRY]

Also never listen to surgeon plan, never believe them

Trust ur knowledge u learn:
For great bimax u need:
SNA at 85-87 degree
SNB at 83 - 85 degree
Occlusal plane 4 to 6 degree
Upper incisor 4.5mm under upper lip

 

[BobbyJindalsTwin]

You might need malar implants or a bimax and a previous MSE / SARME, but it is better than extracting teeth, in my opinion.

Legend. I had no idea an actual surgeon browses these aspie retard forums

 

[SixCRY]

Mate do you like him more then alfaro?

same, they both use CCW for great aesthetic

Arnett charge more than 60k i think

 

[Deleted member 385]

same, they both use CCW for great aesthetic

Arnett charge more than 60k i think

He retired u dumb motherfucker

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Also never listen to surgeon plan, never believe them

Trust ur knowledge u learn:
For great bimax u need:
SNA at 85-87 degree
SNB at 83 - 85 degree
Occlusal plane 4 to 6 degree
Upper incisor 4.5mm under upper lip

Nice to see someone’s been watching Dr. Arnetts paid lectures