Is growing muscle and losing face fat mutually exclusive?

[looks>books]

Like can i only have one or the other at a time?

Obv bulk then cut is an option but at a low bodyfat percent is gaining muscle impossible?

Can you only prioritize one at a time?





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Goat users

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

no it’s not, and it makes no sense why it would be

 

[White_Bwoi]

This are the basics buddy - when you're just starting out it's possible to make newbie gains & lose fat at the same time, but the growth will not be optimal (only when on slight surplus+).

Im trying to do this at the very moment tho, returned to gym after years eating chicken breast & all that "jazz" / losing weight trying to preserve at least

 

[Angutoid]

natty or not

 

[looks>books]

natty or not

natty

 

[looks>books]

no it’s not, and it makes no sense why it would be

Muscle needs calories to grow, if you arent getting enough they wont

 

[Angutoid]

natty

recomping natty wont cut it

 

[looks>books]

This are the basics buddy - when you're just starting out it's possible to make newbie gains & lose fat at the same time, but the growth will not be optimal (only when on slight surplus+).

Im trying to do this at the very moment tho, returned to gym after years eating chicken breast & all that "jazz" / losing weight trying to preserve at least

So slight surplus or maintenance at the very least?

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

Muscle needs calories to grow, if you arent getting enough they wont

why do you think your body burns fat, for no reason? it burns fat for energy

 

[looks>books]

why do you think your body burns fat, for no reason? it burns fat for energy

Yeah but if you eat a lot it will keep the fat

 

[White_Bwoi]

natty or not

lil offtopic sorry: Is a slight dose of TRT considered natty? My doc could get me from my pretty low T (550) to 1000-1100 - controlled - to just a natty highest possible T level) should I do et, for libido & "drive to life"? or don't bother?

 

[Angutoid]

lil offtopic sorry: Is a slight dose of TRT considered natty? My doc could give me from my pretty low T (550 to 1000-1100 - controlled - to just a natty highest possible T level) should I do et, for libido & "drive to life"? or don't bother?

unless supernatural levels its not enhanced in my book
do it yes

 

[ilovekolaches]

lil offtopic sorry: Is a slight dose of TRT considered natty? My doc could get me from my pretty low T (550) to 1000-1100 - controlled - to just a natty highest possible T level) should I do et, for libido & "drive to life"? or don't bother?

yeah

 

[quantitativePSL]

Just main gain

 

[White_Bwoi]

Im

unless supernatural levels its not enhanced in my book
do it yes

Im 30 something so it's not like a teenager roiding up Yeah I'll get leaner and maybe hop on this, if not superhero levels should not cause any weird shit, thx

 

[CsCurry]

Like can i only have one or the other at a time?

Obv bulk then cut is an option but at a low bodyfat percent is gaining muscle impossible?

Can you only prioritize one at a time?





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@judif3r @

@Orc @

@PsychoDsk @

@PompastyMogs @actualunderstander @iblamewill @noahwillascend @CsCurry

If you’re a noob then you can recomp.

Bulk cut is the only way to go past a year of lifting though. Keep protein/fat the same, vary carbs.

 

[ilovekolaches]

Im

Im 30 something so it's not like a teenager roiding up Yeah I'll get leaner and maybe hop on this, if not superhero levels should not cause any weird shit, thx

why do just trt, and r u planning on doing the trt for the rest of ur life

 

[kazama]

No

 

[robert3]

lil offtopic sorry: Is a slight dose of TRT considered natty? My doc could get me from my pretty low T (550) to 1000-1100 - controlled - to just a natty highest possible T level) should I do et, for libido & "drive to life"? or don't bother?

blast you stupid faggot 1000-1100 levels arent doing shit for you unless your under 16

 

[White_Bwoi]

why do just trt, and r u planning on doing the trt for the rest of ur life

I spoke to the doc, and he's not some 'Mumbai' one, expensive guy tbh, he told me that we can stop anytime, that it's a mythology that you MUST TAKE IT because your natural production shuts down and shit, I want to check how I will feel if it would be life changing and lift mood/libido/give me a kick so to speak, then will stabilize and take it for prolonged time hmm

 

[Angutoid]

Im

Im 30 something so it's not like a teenager roiding up Yeah I'll get leaner and maybe hop on this, if not superhero levels should not cause any weird shit, thx

at 30 its even more okay to be on trt

 

[kazama]

Muscle needs calories to grow, if you arent getting enough they wont

Your mistake, as long as your deficit doesn't exceed 600kcal you can build muscle. What gives you muscle is training, bad stimulus = poor use of calories/proteins
Bulk is not necessary, maximum 200kcal if u want to do this.

 

[actualunderstander]

If youre new to lifting, you can absolutely do both, and some people even if they arent new. Youve seen jacked athletes before who havent heard of a bulk or cut in their life. They just do lots of cardio, and lift /workout for their sport. If youre not new, you probably still can be conventional wisdom says its slower. Id say just bulk for a year man, if youre unhappy with the bodyfat, being a bit fluffy for a year wont be that big of deal cause after wards you will have mad muscle to look forward to when you cut. Just deal with it and afterwards you cut. If you do it right you can build 20lbs+ of muscle.

 

[looks>books]

Your mistake, as long as your deficit doesn't exceed 600kcal you can build muscle. What gives you muscle is training, bad stimulus = poor use of calories/proteins
Bulk is not necessary, maximum 200kcal if u want to do this.

Tos is what im currently trying rn

 

[PompastyMogs]

Just eat at slight surplus like 2800 cal, but consume mostly protein, like 300g a day.

Going full heavy bulk does have benefits if u dont care looking worse while doing it. I advice going one big bulk, for like 3 months, lift heavy, after that never do bulks ever in life and be sligthly above maintanance.

 

[looks>books]

Just eat at slight surplus like 2800 cal, but consume mostly protein, like 300g a day.

Going full heavy bulk does have benefits if u dont care looking worse while doing it. I advice going one big bulk, for like 3 months, lift heavy, after that never do bulks ever in life and be sligthly above maintanance.

300g of protein???

Are you sure thats crazy
Even at a bulk normal is like 200g max

 

[PompastyMogs]

300g of protein???

Are you sure thats crazy
Even at a bulk normal is like 200g max

Yeah, I mostly eat protein sources, and vegetables. Instead of rice I eat lentils, bulgur or quinoa. they have good amount of protein with carbs

 

[PompastyMogs]

300g of protein???

Are you sure thats crazy
Even at a bulk normal is like 200g max

Just buy 3-4 canned tunas and u will get like 150-200 grams of protein, while not spending time cooking, plus its easy to eat fast

 

[looks>books]

Just buy 3-4 canned tunas and u will get like 150-200 grams of protein, while not spending time cooking, plus its easy to eat fast

Yeah but i think 300 is too much. Im not that tall either im like 5’9

 

[judif3r]

Like can i only have one or the other at a time?

Obv bulk then cut is an option but at a low bodyfat percent is gaining muscle impossible?

Can you only prioritize one at a time?





@iblamesombre @

@judif3r @

@Orc @

@PsychoDsk @

@PompastyMogs @actualunderstander @iblamewill @noahwillascend @CsCurry

You cannot spot reduce fat so losing face fat includes losing fat everywhere. Also no it is NOT, especially beginners can build a lot of muscle while in a caloric deficit, but for more advanced lifters they will only build a bit of muscle on a deficit.

 

[noahwillascend]

Like can i only have one or the other at a time?

Obv bulk then cut is an option but at a low bodyfat percent is gaining muscle impossible?

Can you only prioritize one at a time?





@iblamesombre @

@judif3r @

@Orc @

@PsychoDsk @

@PompastyMogs @actualunderstander @iblamewill @noahwillascend @CsCurry

Only way your loosing face fat is if you caloric deficit so no it’s not possible unless you want to train in a deficit