when talking about nose after bimax it's specific case
Of course he hasn't completely achieved his natural development. But part of his face is now closer to it should have been (that his sleep apnea got cured is a testament to that). But sure, harmony can be an issue with lefort sometimes. But if you honestly think he looks worse now compared to before, then I don't know what to say. Sure, some people look weird after bimax, but OP looks nothing like the examples you bring forward. He looks great. Show his new face to anyone out side of an autistic psl forum and they will agree with this point of view and think he is handsome.
my before nose is similar to yours
so that's good starting point. ask surgeon to make proper advancement and rotation to "straighten" the nose, you can get similiar effect like me. no rhino needed after really . you will get just good men nose straight
good men nose straight
yeah some guys with straight nose before bimax got small tiktok feminine nose after it doesn't look good i think
it depends on the boy
posted my forehead here see 1st page with less censor
Of course not. But I know that he isn't suposed to have sleep apnea, but a jaw that accommodates proper breathing. He has that now and it shows, for the better.
Judging from the material we have, he undeniably looks better. And I have seen him from the front, as well as in better side pics, as well. The results speak for themselves. He might not have perfect harmony. We can't say for sure what the surgery did to him in this regards. But it is in no way obvious that it was ruined somehow. This is just an assumption on your part.
It looks good, also can be affected by lens distortion, so scans are best way to analyse
This is what Im kinda afraid of tbh
OP had a noname surgeon.
Shit results might happen with every surgeon tbh, depends on the base of the individual ofc
Yeah, why didn't you go to a surgeon recommended by a bunch of retarded incels, bro? Imagine making your own informed decision instead of basing it on the consensus of an internet forum for 14 year olds to discuss Chico harmony.
Result looks like shit so obviously the "incels" know more than OP with his "informed" decision. There is a reason some surgeons are highly regarded, they improve faces substantially. Reason we discuss "Chico harmony" is the same reason we don't get botched.
that's just silly
Can you give me trimax and surgery advice in dm?
Thanks. I have chosen top surgeon in my country and i love my results, i dont care about your instagram celebrities
because some random dude went to one of them, had a decent result, and then someone else did and had a decent result, and that was all it took to convince the forum that the surgeon was some sort of god. "But has Ramieri ever botched someone?" literally the logic used to justify his reputation. "Well, no teenagers know of any cases where Ramieri has botched anyone, so he must be good!"
congrats
Ramieri have made way above "decent" improvements. So have all the other reputable ones.
Crazy how people disregard upper third projection, basically a hardcap to how much forward growth you can get. ESPECIALLY the browridge. These are 2 heavy antefaces with no browridge however one works way better than the other, guess the surgeon’s choice isn’t really a thing that should be overlooked after all, weird ! The first guy has my exact surgery plan, he ascended hard. Would be a legit strong htn if it wasn’t for his cuck eye area and long midface. Mirin fellow laser hair removal maxxer .
Because people look better after having their jaws rotated and advanced. There are hundreds of other surgeons that do exactly what Ramieri does. You can't point to anything that makes Ramieri better than any other capable surgeon. It's pure hype built around him doing surgery on the right people at the right time.
Well to be fair the mini chin wing and the low price is what set him apart for a long time, now both are gone so he is currently overrated.
@SurgeryEnjoyer
Haven't seen his eye area but yes browridges hardcap bimax potential due to facial convexity.
I’ve head a good result but purely because i chose my movements. I don’t have the pics rn but he gets nerfed pretty hard by it. He wears sunglasses most of the time, tatemaxxing.
Alright, then we agree. OP got what he wanted, so I don't see the issue. If it were me, I wouldn't have gotten surgery in the first place.
No one reached HTN except kinda the mexican guy.vs no name results:
OP got botched. If you pay 20k you're entitled to HTN+ tbh @SurgeryEnjoyer.
Yeah, although for most people it only serves as a good foundations, since genrally other things need to be fixed as well. The standard package is trimax + genio + jaw angles + rhino + zygos. The vast majority also reuqires some form of supra/browridge augmentation but it’s so specific and experimental that most don’t even bother. A rhino especially can have a huge impact on perceived forward growth if the nose is droopy/overprojected.
I don't need the rhino but will def play around with the other stuff. Might do supras with infras for an even more compact striking eye area in combination with brows + lashes softmax.
Didn’t think you would benefit from supras from the pics you showed me, but that might just be your fat pads carrying you hard. And agreed, Lima feline eye area or death.
Yeah I have great supra fat pads but the bone is lackluster for sure. I'm carried by forehead projection, browridge, and fat pads. While the supras themselves are quite unimpressive. Feline looks>>>
Ramus naturally looks shorter when you push your mandible (and your whole face) forward, like the guy in that image is doing. His ramus should look fine when he is in normal position. Plus having a stubble can be deceiving
Normal is not a halo...
chico's ramus isn't anything special either, it's not a requirement. The guy in the pic improved
Chico has a tall ramus. Definitely halo ramus. Seen people argue he is carried by his ramus.
bro come on now, his ramus is slightly above average at best in terms of length, nothing special. It's not the size of his bones that are impressive, but rather the positioning and overall averageness.
That's because maxfacs don't design faces. They move jaws. Some people have a lot latent potential that's actualized when their jaws are fixed. Some don't. Do you think this surgeon did something magical?
My ramus is taller
You just made me realise something, if Chico had flared gonions, he would truly be unmoggable
He just has to chew more
He already was in prime.
Not chadlite after but I get your point yes. Although most people with recessed jaws can ascend to HTN with jaw surgery and implants.
