Is it truly over if you have subhuman base?

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is there truly any hope for someone with a subhuman/truecel tier base to be able to ascend to htn via hardmaxxing or no?
 
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Not far above average
 
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Hardmax is always an option. It can fix almost any flaw with enough surgeries.
 
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Hardmax is always an option. It can fix almost any flaw with enough surgeries.
you will most likely end up botched and unharmonious
 
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surgery is law

forget htn dreams but you will ascend substantially
 
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let’s say boneless and severely recessed in every third of the face
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same person btw
 
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surgery is law

forget htn dreams but you will ascend substantially
It’s not worth the investment and time just to become ltn or mtn and end up invisible anyway. Would be better to use the money on escorts at that point
 
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is there truly any hope for someone with a subhuman/truecel tier base to be able to ascend to htn via hardmaxxing or no?
Definitely not. Gotta account for money, skills of surgeons to not botch you, time for healing in between, your flaws themselves, and etc. htn is a huger gap than people realize
 
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Definitely not. Gotta account for money, skills of surgeons to not botch you, time for healing in between, your flaws themselves, and etc. htn is a huger gap than people realize
so would you argue it’s better to just spend money on escorts or something else instead of surgery if you have subhuman base?
 
so would you argue it’s better to just spend money on escorts or something else instead of surgery if you have subhuman base?
depending on money and time for healing and age probs surgery but like after a certain age the difference between whores and women aren't so far of lol and not gonna find true love but nah i'd never spend money for sex thats degen asf
 
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depending on money and time for healing and age probs surgery but like after a certain age the difference between whores and women aren't so far of lol and not gonna find true love but nah i'd never spend money for sex thats degen asf
if you’re like let’s say 20 and you spend years grinding money and getting multiple surgeries and going through all the time and effort and stress, even if it all goes smoothly, by the time it’s all done youre old and the girls prime is gone and so has your youth.

Most men pay for sex anyway, it’s just not upfront and blunt
 
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if you’re like let’s say 20 and you spend years grinding money and getting multiple surgeries and going through all the time and effort and stress, even if it all goes smoothly, by the time it’s all done youre old and the girls prime is gone and so has your youth.

Most men pay for sex anyway, it’s just not upfront and blunt
very troo
 
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is there truly any hope for someone with a subhuman/truecel tier base to be able to ascend to htn via hardmaxxing or no?
depends if their eyes are fucked up really. most other surgeries are easy fixes, not orbitals tho
 
is there truly any hope for someone with a subhuman/truecel tier base to be able to ascend to htn via hardmaxxing or no?
let me get back to you on this one after I get my surgeries
 
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which is when?
around may of this year I should be getting fat grafting for my subhuman eye area and I am still looking for a looksmax board certified surgeon that follows blackpill theory for my Jaw/chin/zygo implants I really wanted my implants done by giant but he doesn't respond to greycels even if I have the money.

but I am true sub 3 I did all the face ratings like the face IQ one etc. and all of them say I am sub 3 subhuman/truecel, I am hoping to reach htn tho
 
is there truly any hope for someone with a subhuman/truecel tier base to be able to ascend to htn via hardmaxxing or no?
let’s say boneless and severely recessed in every third of the face
Depends on what the person thinks makes it over, that guy could get surgery and maybe after 25 be sble to live a relatively normal life assuming he has good mental genetics and didnt get perma nerfed by abused dog syndrome as well

But a very good life or a life of being desired, no.

Htn rating seems very unlikely if its a genuine subhuman, even mmtn would be hard with all the money in the world
 
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Depends on what the person thinks makes it over, that guy could get surgery and maybe after 25 be sble to live a relatively normal life assuming he has good mental genetics and didnt get perma nerfed by abused dog syndrome as well

But a very good life or a life of being desired, no.

Htn rating seems very unlikely if its a genuine subhuman, even mmtn would be hard with all the money in the world
Do you think any transformations where the starting point is a sub5 (who’s not fat) and the after is a htn, it’s frauded?
 
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is there truly any hope for someone with a subhuman/truecel tier base to be able to ascend to htn via hardmaxxing or no?
Dude, make it easy for us and post your face on this thread. That way we can give you advice and see your potential judging off of your base.
 
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It's only truly over if you are poor. If you don't have minimum 100k in funds available for surgeries or a strong health insurance, then it's over.

Look at people like Kylie Jenner, went from subhuman to attractive.
 
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Dude, make it easy for us and post your face on this thread. That way we can give you advice and see your potential judging off of your base.
I am not really asking for myself, it’s a general question because of some of the transformations I’ve seen, but I do have a sub5 base anyhow
 
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Dude, make it easy for us and post your face on this thread. That way we can give you advice and see your potential judging off of your base.
Also I will never post my face publicly here

It's only truly over if you are poor. If you don't have minimum 100k in funds available for surgeries or a strong health insurance, then it's over.

Look at people like Kylie Jenner, went from subhuman to attractive.
Kylie Jenner was hltb before, and all she got was fillers and BBL right?

For men, most surgeries are going to be bone and implant related, hence why ironically lot more expensive than women’s
 
It’s technically possible, but obviously far less so in practice.
 
Do you think any transformations where the starting point is a sub5 (who’s not fat) and the after is a htn, it’s frauded?
Of the top of my head probably not, maybe bgm
 

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