Is looksmaxing an excuse?

[HarrierDuBois]

yeah cuz ur mentally sabotaging yourself and you can break every bone in your face and it will never be enough.

You are literally posting on a suicide-forum at the moment.

 

[Acne Victim]

This.

I don't think looksmaxxing is the solution though. (beyond becoming reasonable looking, lean, taken care off,etc)

We are literally oppressed by society and the world around us to behave and believe like we are ugly cockroach losers.

The true ascension is mental and realizing everyone is against you and trying to destroy you. And the only way to succeed in life is to fight.

if everyone is against you and trying to destroy you then why do you talk to people on looksmax, who although may understand your problems better, are even more narcissistic and liars than the average person? not saying normies are angels but people here aren't much morally better if there is something like that at least.

 

[Deleted member 43934]

you deff don’t need looksmaxxing or surgeries to get girls, you just have to put yourself out there and maybe meet someone. try to what life has to offer your looks are not holding you back.

 

[Deleted member 22924]

being a few inches above average doesn't guarantee you will do well if you are a mtn tho

its 4 inches above average i have a tall mtn in my class and he fucks girls are not that attractive but athleast he fu ks

 

[HarrierDuBois]

its 4 inches above average i have a tall mtn in my class and he fucks girls are not that attractive but athleast he fu ks

Mirin you getting better at english, I remember when you struggled to compile 1 sentence.

you deff don’t need looksmaxxing or surgeries to get girls, you just have to put yourself out there and maybe meet someone. try to what life has to offer your looks are not holding you back.

Perhaps.

 

[Acne Victim]

its 4 inches above average i have a tall mtn in my class and he fucks girls are not that attractive but athleast he fu ks

my older brother is 5'7 obese normie and has a strong mtb girlfriend he met through tinder. exceptions aren't the rule.

you will rarely find an ACTUAL white top 10% dude facially who rots here and is incel unless he is significantly capped by some feature like height frame autism etc (I obviously am not counting frauders who squint to have muh hunter eyes and are incel IRL). but you will always find tall users who are incel (sure, some larp their heights but whatever you get the point)

 

[Deleted member 22924]

my older brother is 5'7 obese normie and has a strong mtb girlfriend he met through tinder. exceptions aren't the rule.

you will rarely find an ACTUAL white top 10% dude facially who rots here and is incel unless he is significantly capped by some feature like height frame autism etc (I obviously am not counting frauders who squint to have muh hunter eyes and are incel IRL). but you will always find tall users who are incel (sure, some larp their heights but whatever you get the point)

Maybe he can get lucky 2 i am here so the second is disproven

 

[MoggerGaston]

if everyone is against you and trying to destroy you then why do you talk to people on looksmax, who although may understand your problems better, are even more narcissistic and liars than the average person? not saying normies are angels but people here aren't much morally better if there is something like that at least.

it's not about morality as much as it is about people on this forum having less reason to lie/abuse you.
There isn't much to gain from lying to people on an anonymous internet forum or abusing them on here, compared to what you could get out of places elsewhere.

Therefore making this a more 'safe' space for people, less prone to being taken advantage of, etc.
People are much more likely to lie to you IRL than on here, to virtue-signal and get rid of your whining, disregard you.

The question should rather be of how this will suit your own best interest, being in this safe space and not challenged, not forced to fight and compete.

What are you trying to achieve in life and what's the purpose of this forum in achieving that goal

 

[Deleted member 22924]

Mirin you getting better at english, I remember when you struggled to compile 1 sentence.


Perhaps.

Thank you its still hard tho

 

[longjohnmong]

you deff don’t need looksmaxxing or surgeries to get girls, you just have to put yourself out there and maybe meet someone. try to what life has to offer your looks are not holding you back.

and don't forget to hydrate. bro is probably just dehydrated. simple as

 

[Slayer]

While it's true that you aren't getting any younger and most people of all looks get into relationships, you have to reflect on your own personal circumstances and previous experience to tell whether what you're trying to achieve is even realistic.

Like for me it's over but that's because I'm old, broke, and have no irl social contact with anyone anymore and have no way to change this. But if you're young and still in school with legit prospects you're wasting your time here. Just remember that ultimately, you and you alone have to manifest these prospects into reality.

 

[MoggerGaston]

my older brother is 5'7 obese normie and has a strong mtb girlfriend he met through tinder. exceptions aren't the rule.

you will rarely find an ACTUAL white top 10% dude facially who rots here and is incel unless he is significantly capped by some feature like height frame autism etc (I obviously am not counting frauders who squint to have muh hunter eyes and are incel IRL). but you will always find tall users who are incel (sure, some larp their heights but whatever you get the point)

Good looks automatically lead to social privilege. That social privilege and the interaction you make through that, will generally be better than what you can get from this forum.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

my older brother is 5'7 obese normie and has a strong mtb girlfriend he met through tinder. exceptions aren't the rule.

you will rarely find an ACTUAL white top 10% dude facially who rots here and is incel unless he is significantly capped by some feature like height frame autism etc (I obviously am not counting frauders who squint to have muh hunter eyes and are incel IRL). but you will always find tall users who are incel (sure, some larp their heights but whatever you get the point)

Post a top 10% percentile, will see what I can do to reach that minimum.

and don't forget to hydrate. bro is probably just dehydrated. simple as

And deattractivized.

While it's true that you aren't getting any younger and most people of all looks get into relationships, you have to reflect on your own personal circumstances and previous experience to tell whether what you're trying to achieve is even realistic.

Like for me it's over but that's because I'm old, broke, and have no irl social contact with anyone anymore and have no way to change this. But if you're young and still in school with legit prospects you're wasting your time here. Just remember that ultimately, you and you alone have to manifest these prospects into reality.

I just want to reach a looks level where no one can hold shit against me, after like 5 PSL normies are unable to roast your looks.

 

[Acne Victim]

Maybe he can get lucky 2 i am here so the second is disproven

Classic dalit tier reading skills coming from you. Zoomer attention spam at it's peak

Do u want me to say it in french?

 

[Deleted member 22924]

Classic dalit tier reading skills coming from you. Zoomer attention spam at it's peak

Do u want me to say it in french?

I am not French i live in Belgium but in the dutch part 6’3 white mtns are not incels irl i need to get some sleep now i have school at 6 Tomorrow good night

 

[Acne Victim]

Post a top 10% percentile, will see what I can do to reach that minimum.


And deattractivized.


I just want to reach a looks level where no one can hold shit against me, after like 5 PSL normies are unable to roast your looks.

I'm still truly figuring out what an actual top 10% dude looks like, trust me it varies a lot from where you live. Most of my current database is for EEcels, so here are some for reference (first 5 dudes, this was 50 swipes in some city in Poland):



Yeah not that good lol. If you want to, you can send some guys and I can tell you where I would think they fit in stockholm by what I saw there

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I'm still truly figuring out what an actual top 10% dude looks like, trust me it varies a lot from where you live. Most of my current database is for EEcels, so here are some for reference (first 5 dudes, this was 50 swipes in some city in Poland):



Yeah not that good lol. If you want to, you can send some guys and I can tell you where I would think they fit in stockholm by what I saw there

I'll smoke those ez if everything goes according to plan.

 

[Acne Victim]

it's not about morality as much as it is about people on this forum having less reason to lie/abuse you.
There isn't much to gain from lying to people on an anonymous internet forum or abusing them on here, compared to what you could get out of places elsewhere.

Therefore making this a more 'safe' space for people, less prone to being taken advantage of, etc.
People are much more likely to lie to you IRL than on here, to virtue-signal and get rid of your whining, disregard you.

The question should rather be of how this will suit your own best interest, being in this safe space and not challenged, not forced to fight and compete.

What are you trying to achieve in life and what's the purpose of this forum in achieving that goal

Yeah, that is a pretty fair point. I mainly use this forum as a way to escape from real life and normal social interactions so I think I understand what u mean.

 

[Deleted member 22924]

I'm still truly figuring out what an actual top 10% dude looks like, trust me it varies a lot from where you live. Most of my current database is for EEcels, so here are some for reference (first 5 dudes, this was 50 swipes in some city in Poland):



Yeah not that good lol. If you want to, you can send some guys and I can tell you where I would think they fit in stockholm by what I saw there

Fuck they are all so ugly brutal

 

[Acne Victim]

Fuck they are all so ugly brutal

Western europe is 10x better lol, so it's lifefuel if you are geomaxxing there I guess. Tho it's just that the dalits from EE that I interact with on discord are brainlets and I need to get proof like this so that they don't chimp out with muh average zoomie in my 4th world country is a 6'2 HTN bro

 

[Deleted member 22924]

Western europe is 10x better lol, so it's lifefuel if you are geomaxxing there I guess. Tho it's just that the dalits from EE that I interact with on discord are brainlets and I need to get proof like this so that they don't chimp out with muh average zoomie in my 4th world country is a 6'2 HTN bro

@St.TikTokcel

 

[Slayer]

I just want to reach a looks level where no one can hold shit against me, after like 5 PSL normies are unable to roast your looks.

Yeah I agree there's value in mogging. It's a bit of a narcy thing and I went through it too where I just wanted to be this desirable yet untouchable object because that honestly holds more power over women than actually fucking them. The stuff you said about vulnerability and being afraid of sex is something I struggle with too. Both these things combined is how to stay virgin for life 101.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I just wanted to be this desirable yet untouchable object because that honestly holds more power over women than actually fucking them.

Spot on, just some pure asexual unreachable individual. Insane, like a living statue.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Yeah, that is a pretty fair point. I mainly use this forum as a way to escape from real life and normal social interactions so I think I understand what u mean.

Same.

But I am here mostly because I fail to cope with the social abuse I have experienced in my youth.
Internet social activity was my saving grace back then, and I am holding on to that even though I have already fixed what needed to be done to also get positive social experiences IRL now.

abused dog syndrome.


i will get rid of this asap

 

[Slayer]

Spot on, just some pure asexual unreachable individual. Insane, like a living statue.

Doesn't help either when the girls I could attract were ltb at best and I couldn't see myself ever stooping to their level. But then u gotta realize that the looks required for a stacy to worship you might not even exist irl lmao.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I am afraid of seeking out contact with the opposite gender in order to bond, I am afraid of sex in the sense that I have to get vulnerable and share myself in a way I have never done before.
As of now I am not conventionally attractive so I can just hide behind the excuse that I need to looksmax but when I have ascended I will have no more excuses to hide behind, eventually I will have to mature, grow up, and seek out contact with girls.

My friend IRL told me that I just use looksmaxing as an excuse not to get girls, is this true?

I'm afraid they'll say my dick is small

So after my sarms + butea superba and cialis daily for 8 weeks if my dick is still small ill just run it and hope my looksmaxxing pays off

If she ridicules my tiny pecker, cock implants it is, they seem pretty viable tbh

I'm really just looksmaxxing hard enough so a girl asks me out, until then I haven't made it and can't reasonably outhalo my dick, seems to be an adequate scale of progress.

6.7x 4.35 BP, definitely attractive enough to get with an htb, but by get with I mean one date and they'd realize I'm peculiar, no sex

This is the most vulnerable ive ever been for my bros

 

[looks>books]

Looksmaxxing includes charismamaxxing, dont just focus on the outside.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Doesn't help either when the girls I could attract were ltb at best and I couldn't see myself ever stooping to their level. But then u gotta realize that the looks required for a stacy to worship you might not even exist irl lmao.

I only got ltbs-mtbs approaching me which I refused to settle for as well.

 

[Slayer]

I only got ltbs-mtbs approaching me which I refused to settle for as well.

6 Traits of Covert Narcissism

Covert narcissism is a subtler form of overt narcissism. But because it’s subtle, covert narcissism can be a little more difficult to identify and manage. Here’s how to recognize it, avoid it and cope with it.

health.clevelandclinic.org

 

[HarrierDuBois]

6 Traits of Covert Narcissism

Covert narcissism is a subtler form of overt narcissism. But because it’s subtle, covert narcissism can be a little more difficult to identify and manage. Here’s how to recognize it, avoid it and cope with it.

health.clevelandclinic.org

I am extremely empathetic, self hurtingly so even.

 

[Deleted member 19582]

Ask yourself: what would Leon S. Kennedy do?

 

[Deleted member 19582]

I am afraid of seeking out contact with the opposite gender in order to bond, I am afraid of sex in the sense that I have to get vulnerable and share myself in a way I have never done before.
As of now I am not conventionally attractive so I can just hide behind the excuse that I need to looksmax but when I have ascended I will have no more excuses to hide behind, eventually I will have to mature, grow up, and seek out contact with girls.

My friend IRL told me that I just use looksmaxing as an excuse not to get girls, is this true?

Yeah, probs raised many of your insecurities. Also, you seem to be like me, have you had sex before? First time there is always this nervousness you feel...

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Yeah, probs raised many of your insecurities. Also, you seem to be like me, have you had sex before? First time there is always this nervousness you feel...

I haven't, remember I was in a room with some girl in my acting class and we were just talking, I asked for her socials and after she gave me a really intense look looking into my eyes and lips switching between. I just froze and got scared as shit, luckily (or unluckily) for me my acting teacher walked in on us and he gave me the the most caught lacking smug smirk I've seen and said "What's going on here then?" The tension got released and I could breathe again ffs.

 

[Deleted member 19582]

I haven't, remember I was in a room with some girl in my acting class and we were just talking, I asked for her socials and after she gave me a really intense look looking into my eyes and lips switching between. I just froze and got scared as shit, luckily (or unluckily) for me my acting teacher walked in on us and he gave me the the most caught lacking smug smirk I've seen and said "What's going on here then?" The tension got released and I could breathe again ffs.

Yeah, first time having sex the perfect is having a woman that you really trust, they say it's tough for women and shit, but for us men? Hell, you could destroy us with a simple word as: not what I expected... Because well, we project on girls this perfect feminine image that is empathetic... But they sometimes just can't get man's feelings.

Look at @MoggerGaston and ask him how was the time he first had sex, the girl was an asshole to him...

A gf of mine also shamed me of because of my dick size because she would not get destroyed by it (we were both virgins )

Having a gf that loves you and understands you >>> Slaying (first one is much harder, women the most "empathetic beings" to you, gl friend, you deserve a girl that will understand you, if you're nervous, non ironically losing with a escort maybe a good option too)

Probably would you make less nervous and more confident when having sex with a girl, if you were like me and had this idea of ''finding each others bodies'' bhai, womans mind were destroyed by pornography as much as ours, my gf was virgin but she expected I packed like 8 inches or some shit .

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Yeah, first time having sex the perfect is having a woman that you really trust, they say it's tough for women and shit, but for us men? Hell, you could destroy us with a simple word as: not what I expected... Because well, we project on girls this perfect feminine image that is empathetic... But they sometimes just can't get man's feelings.

Look at @MoggerGaston and ask him how was the time he first had sex, the girl was an asshole to him...

A gf of mine also shamed me of because of my dick size because she would not get destroyed by it (we were both virgins )

Having a gf that loves you and understands you >>> Slaying (first one is much harder, women the most "empathetic beings" to you, gl friend, you deserve a girl that will understand you, if you're nervous, non ironically losing with a escort maybe a good option too)

Probably would you make less nervous and more confident when having sex with a girl, if you were like me and had this idea of ''finding each others bodies'' bhai, womans mind were destroyed by pornography as much as ours, my gf was virgin but she expected I packed like 8 inches or some shit .

@MoggerGaston tell me about the mean girl.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Yeah, first time having sex the perfect is having a woman that you really trust, they say it's tough for women and shit, but for us men? Hell, you could destroy us with a simple word as: not what I expected... Because well, we project on girls this perfect feminine image that is empathetic... But they sometimes just can't get man's feelings.

Look at @MoggerGaston and ask him how was the time he first had sex, the girl was an asshole to him...

A gf of mine also shamed me of because of my dick size because she would not get destroyed by it (we were both virgins )

Having a gf that loves you and understands you >>> Slaying (first one is much harder, women the most "empathetic beings" to you, gl friend, you deserve a girl that will understand you, if you're nervous, non ironically losing with a escort maybe a good option too)

Probably would you make less nervous and more confident when having sex with a girl, if you were like me and had this idea of ''finding each others bodies'' bhai, womans mind were destroyed by pornography as much as ours, my gf was virgin but she expected I packed like 8 inches or some shit .

My first time ever was with my first girlfriend. Not some random slay.
She knew beforehand that I was a virgin, and it was awkward the first time.

She was legit fucking disgusted by it and almost ghosted/rejected me because of it. She didn't understand how I 'could not just get it' and how I couldn't just naturally follow my instincts and act the way she expected.

Women aren't these empathic human beings that you were led to believe they are. They are just as brutal, if not more brutal, than men.

Female empathy/sympathy. Women being the caring/nurturing gender, is a lie perpetuated by a gynocentric society.

And it's not that women are necessarily this evil either. It's just that they aren't this good thing that society makes them to be, compared to the evil thing that society makes men to be.

It's an anti-male society we live in and you need a healthy way to navigate that.

 

[MoggerGaston]

@MoggerGaston tell me about the mean girl.

brutal experience, somewhat described above

hindsight I would've rather lost my virginity to some GF-experience escort than to my first girlfriend.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

My first time ever was with my first girlfriend. Not some random slay.
She knew beforehand that I was a virgin, and it was awkward the first time.

She was legit fucking disgusted by it and almost ghosted/rejected me because of it. She didn't understand how I 'could not just get it' and how I couldn't just naturally follow my instincts and act the way she expected.

Women aren't these empathic human beings that you were led to believe they are. They are just as brutal, if not more brutal, than men.

Female empathy/sympathy. Women being the caring/nurturing gender, is a lie perpetuated by a gynocentric society.

And it's not that women are necessarily this evil either. It's just that they aren't this good thing that society makes them to be, compared to the evil thing that society makes men to be.

It's an anti-male society we live in and you need a healthy way to navigate that.

I would become depressed if that happened to me, my body is my temple I have a lot of integrity.

 

[MoggerGaston]

I would become depressed if that happened to me, my body is my temple I have a lot of integrity.

it was unhealthy and traumatizing for me.

hindsight I should've ended things with her right there, but I was inexperienced, desperate to get any experience whatsoever.

KHHV at 23yo. subhuman circumstances

 

[WanderingBurro]

If you're not getting any IOI's or at least not much of them then you know deep in that you're not ready. It's better to go prepared than throw yourself knowing you'd fail. It's easier to try when someone openly welcomes you in and you probably know that diving in without that welcome is the equivalent of social sabotage in this day and age.



Unless you are getting IOI's then I'd work on trying to get past those high inhibitions which we probably all have now thanks to being abused dogs. Try interacting with people in warm social settings. Don't hit on anyone, but work on being NT around people. If you can find social groups that are diverse in gender then the better so not to dive into the deep end immediately.

 

[Psychophilly]

I will not lower my standards, i give no fuck

 

[HarrierDuBois]

it was unhealthy and traumatizing for me.

hindsight I should've ended things with her right there, but I was inexperienced, desperate to get any experience whatsoever.

KHHV at 23yo. subhuman circumstances

I will be in your shoes I can be ascended by 23.

Unless you are getting IOI's then I'd work on trying to get past those high inhibitions which we probably all have now thanks to being abused dogs. Try interacting with people in warm social settings. Don't hit on anyone, but work on being NT around people. If you can find social groups that are diverse in gender then the better so not to dive into the deep end immediately.

True, maybe I am at fault instead of what I blame it on.

 

[Deleted member 19582]

My first time ever was with my first girlfriend. Not some random slay.
She knew beforehand that I was a virgin, and it was awkward the first time.

She was legit fucking disgusted by it and almost ghosted/rejected me because of it. She didn't understand how I 'could not just get it' and how I couldn't just naturally follow my instincts and act the way she expected.

Women aren't these empathic human beings that you were led to believe they are. They are just as brutal, if not more brutal, than men.

Female empathy/sympathy. Women being the caring/nurturing gender, is a lie perpetuated by a gynocentric society.

And it's not that women are necessarily this evil either. It's just that they aren't this good thing that society makes them to be, compared to the evil thing that society makes men to be.

It's an anti-male society we live in and you need a healthy way to navigate that.

it's just our upbringing that make us believe that...

One day I believe fiction will become reality...



Until then, it's moneymaxx and stoicismaxx

 

[jflsnowdzz]

Dont halt your life for looksmaxxing, just go out and live in the present. Thinking muh life starts after ascension is one of the biggest incel delusions ever. This mindset only leads to disappointments and fucks your mental health and social skills.

The only thing id say is perhaps dont get in serious ltrs if you have major surgeries planned. Otherwise things like social shit and slaying just do it like normal.

Also dont tell normies about your looksmaxxing its a failo

 

[the BULL]

You need to step outside your bubble and see the bigger picture. I used to be like this too, and I can tell you its the worst thing to do. You don't even know if you're truly going to ascend

And if yes, then 1 year 2 years, 5 years, 10 years? By the time you do 'ascend' you will have nothing left to show for

Trust me incel . This is not something I or @Krakowski can convince you, but live in the real world and face it head on. Your recessed lateral orbitals would be the last concern of any single human you meet. This much I guarantee you

you're a subhuman you know better

 

[Deleted member 45175]

Never began for you if you have to looksmaxx or are scared to have sex

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Dont halt your life for looksmaxxing, just go out and live in the present. Thinking muh life starts after ascension is one of the biggest incel delusions ever. This mindset only leads to disappointments and fucks your mental health and social skills.

The only thing id say is perhaps dont get in serious ltrs if you have major surgeries planned. Otherwise things like social shit and slaying just do it like normal.

Also dont tell normies about your looksmaxxing its a failo

Yeah I only told one of my very close friends that's intelligent and understands the blackpill.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Never began for you if you have to looksmaxx or are scared to have sex

I don't technically have to as girls have been interested in me but I am scared of sex yes.

 

[Deleted member 25705]

I am afraid of seeking out contact with the opposite gender in order to bond, I am afraid of sex in the sense that I have to get vulnerable and share myself in a way I have never done before.
As of now I am not conventionally attractive so I can just hide behind the excuse that I need to looksmax but when I have ascended I will have no more excuses to hide behind, eventually I will have to mature, grow up, and seek out contact with girls.

My friend IRL told me that I just use looksmaxing as an excuse not to get girls, is this true?

Answer this question, let's say you got your genio, bimax, infras and whatever surgery you needed.

Are you happy?

Or is your happiness reliant on how women or others react towards you?

If it's the latter, then I got bad news. No surgery in this world will ever guarantee anyone will treat you differently. The only person these surgeries should satisfy is you and you alone.

 

[bishōnenmaxxer]

This is good thread.