IS MIKE MEW a FUCKING RETARD?

[goat2x]

he wants to pull the back of the maxilla upwards but wouldnt this result in an increased anterior maxilla height?

" As the masseter became larger, the anterior maxillary region tended to shift downwards relative to the cranial base, whereas the posterior region tended to shift upwards"
(the anterior maxilla shifting downwards after the posterior came upwards)
wouldnt this result in a more downswing face?


@hairyballscel @retard @Sergio-OMS @Good_Little_Goy @Copemaxxing

 

[AlphaDude]

He's been a retard his whole life

 

[Deleted member 4430]

 

[Ocelot]

" As the masseter became larger, the anterior maxillary region tended to shift downwards relative to the cranial base, whereas the posterior region tended to shift upwards"
(the anterior maxilla shifting downwards after the posterior came upwards)

so does chewing help forward growth or not?

fucking so much conflicting data on this

 

[goat2x]

so does chewing help forward growth or not?

fucking so much conflicting data on this

yet to see one data that claims chewing on your incisors/front teeth can remodel your whole face upwards

 

[Ocelot]

yet to see one data that claims chewing on your incisors/front teeth can remodel your whole face upwards

yeah that seems like a PSL meme.

Studies I've seen don't differentiate between "molar or incisor" chewing, but there are many that show that masseter CSA is correlated with flatter occlusal planes, longer rami, etc.

 

[ShineBright]

HOLY SHIT OP IS 300 IQ

But maxilla can be recessed in two directions, in the anterior or the superior. Superior recession means your midface is too short, in which case this would be useful. Not really much hope in mewing for pancake faces

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Not sure tbh, the thing about the masseter quote is it‘s not necessarily a causal link and pulling up on the back of the maxilla is not guaranteed to have the same mechanism of action, especially if he means moving the back of the maxilla upwards in tandem with the front and such, he wasn’t very precise in the clip tbh id be careful abt reading into it too muvh

 

[goat2x]

yeah that seems like a PSL meme.

Studies I've seen don't differentiate between "molar or incisor" chewing, but there are many that show that masseter CSA is correlated with flatter occlusal planes, longer rami, etc.

i read a study which basically said that with front teeth chewing you put more pressure on the maxilla but even with that
the changes might be because of the muscle
and
its far easier to achieve a downswing than upswing

 

[Deleted member 3479]

HOLY SHIT OP IS 300 IQ

But maxilla can be recessed in two directions, in the anterior or the superior. Superior recession means your midface is too short, in which case this would be useful. Not really much hope in mewing for pancake faces

Where did you read about this? Bang on tbh my lower maxilla is good but upper is recessed and as u saidd stunts midface, infraorbitals, and nose

 

[goat2x]

Not sure tbh, the thing about the masseter quote is it‘s not necessarily a causal link and pulling up on the back of the maxilla is not guaranteed to have the same mechanism of action, especially if he means moving the back of the maxilla upwards in tandem with the front and such, he wasn’t very precise in the clip tbh id be careful abt reading into it too muvh

yeah thats a good arguement
but then
mewing is utter trash you shouldnt focus at the back of the teeth at all

 

[Deleted member 1862]

dn but yes

 

[Ocelot]

i read a study which basically said that with front teeth chewing you put more pressure on the maxilla but even with that
the changes might be because of the muscle
and
its far easier to achieve a downswing than upswing

basically over if you don't look like this at 10

 

[redhandsbluehands]

 

[Baldingman1998]

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@Salludon

 

[goat2x]

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even 25 is a drag jfl

 

[Carl-o]

Short answer, yes he is

 

[Deleted member 3990]

yeah that seems like a PSL meme.

Studies I've seen don't differentiate between "molar or incisor" chewing, but there are many that show that masseter CSA is correlated with flatter occlusal planes, longer rami, etc.

You have to look for stress redistribution

 

[retard]

no in mouth breathers they typically will have over erupted molars and it will make their lower facial height really high, since there bite will have to close really low, by lifting the molars/the back of the maxilla (where the molars are) it will allow the mandible to rotate upwards and forwards

dr ting uses TADs to intrude the teeth for these same cases, which is better since you don’t need to wear headgear but the end results would be more or less the same, I doubt TADs we’re even around when this video was made though

 

[Ocelot]

You have to look for stress redistribution

dn understand too low iq too sleepy

 

[goat2x]

no in mouth breathers they typically will have over erupted molars and it will make their lower facial height really high, since there bite will have to close really low, by lifting the molars/the back of the maxilla (where the molars are) it will allow the mandible to rotate upwards and forwards

dr ting uses TADs to intrude the teeth for these same cases, which is better since you don’t need to wear headgear but the end results would be more or less the same, I doubt TADs we’re even around when this video was made though

Post pic of it br

 

[retard]

Post pic of it br

the over eruption of molars or the TADs? I doubt knkw anyone else then ting who does it so I doubt I could find any pics

 

[johncruz12345]

the over eruption of molars or the TADs? I doubt knkw anyone else then ting who does it so I doubt I could find any pics

Retard

 

[retard]

the over eruption of molars or the TADs? I doubt knkw anyone else then ting who does it so I doubt I could find any pics

actually they weren’t hard to find

imagine there are lower teeth there, if there were and the upper molars were still in the same position the mandible would be “blocked” from coming up by the molars, what mike is referring to and there would most likely be an anterior open bite, by pulling the back half of the maxilla upwards, it allows the anterior mandible to shift upwards which sounds kinda counterintuitive but it’s right

 

[goat2x]

actually they weren’t hard to find

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imagine there are lower teeth there, if there were and the upper molars were still in the same position the mandible would be “blocked” from coming up by the molars, what mike is referring to and there would most likely be an anterior open bite, by pulling the back half of the maxilla upwards, it allows the anterior mandible to shift upwards which sounds kinda counterintuitive but it’s right

What abt in deepbites, over bites

 

[retard]

What abt in deepbites, over bites

that would just depend on how far the mandible is forward, and how extruded the incisors were as well, every case isn’t black and white

 

[goat2x]

that would just depend on how far the mandible is forward, and how extruded the incisors were as well, every case isn’t black and white

How common is that in overbites or deepbites
I have a strong feeling that the most of the audience have one of these two

 

[retard]

How common is that in overbites or deepbites
I have a strong feeling that the most of the audience have one of these two

I have seen statistics saying 45-70% of people have some sort of an overbite, it is by far the most common malocclusion, but that just looks at it from a far away perspective, there are many other factors such as the division of class 2 it is, the lower facial height, occlusal plane level etc that make each case different

 

[hairyballscel]

" As the masseter became larger, the anterior maxillary region tended to shift downwards relative to the cranial base, whereas the posterior region tended to shift upwards"
(the anterior maxilla shifting downwards after the posterior came upwards)
wouldnt this result in a more downswing face?

not everyone needs CCW rotation bro

 

[to_stop_da_cope]

basically over if you don't look like this at 10
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Is it Maher?

 

[Ocelot]

Is it Maher?

indeed

 

[goat2x]

not everyone needs CCW rotation bro

most of the mewing channel viewers probably do.

 

[MentalistKebab]

@Salludon

Yeah sure. Because one scammer for a thread isnt enough

 

[AutisticBeaner]

yeah that seems like a PSL meme.

Studies I've seen don't differentiate between "molar or incisor" chewing, but there are many that show that masseter CSA is correlated with flatter occlusal planes, longer rami, etc.

canine chewing was mainly brought to attention because chewing with the canines increases the stress put on the bones which results in more bone growth. the whole "rotating your maxilla by chewing at the front" came later. don't see why that wouldn't work though when that article claims the it works very well in the other direction.

 

[Copemaxxing]

This is perfect for me

 

[Ocelot]

canine chewing was mainly brought to attention because chewing with the canines increases the stress put on the bones which results in more bone growth. the whole "rotating your maxilla by chewing at the front" came later. don't see why that wouldn't work though when that article claims the it works very well in the other direction.

any articles on canine chewing?

 

[Ocelot]

This is perfect for me

no face for your clavicles

 

[goat2x]

canine chewing was mainly brought to attention because chewing with the canines increases the stress put on the bones which results in more bone growth. the whole "rotating your maxilla by chewing at the front" came later. don't see why that wouldn't work though when that article claims the it works very well in the other direction.

because thats how your face basically allows it to grow
watch videos on it

 

[Baldingman1998]

 

[AutisticBeaner]

any articles on canine chewing?

well there's this image showing the stress distribution, if you reverse search it you'll find an article. don't remember what the article was about though.

oh yea @Ocelot after i read the article again some time ago i noticed that this image is a bit misleading. i doubt the difference is as large as this might make you think.

 

[Copemaxxing]

no face for your clavicles

No clavicles for my clavicles

 

[AutisticBeaner]

because thats how your face basically allows it to grow
watch videos on it

what do you mean?

 

[Ocelot]

No clavicles for my clavicles View attachment 737061

looks above average
biacromial width?

 

[Baldingman1998]

No clavicles for my clavicles View attachment 737061

You have been working out. Gigachad soon

 

[Copemaxxing]

looks above average
biacromial width?

Ion know what this is if you mean bideltoid then 52cm selfmeasured so probably wrong

 

[Ocelot]

Ion know what this is if you mean bideltoid then 52cm selfmeasured so probably wrong

biacromial width is the length of the clavicles themselves, excluding the deltoid muscles

52 cm is good for bideltoid

 

[goat2x]

Ion know what this is if you mean bideltoid then 52cm selfmeasured so probably wrong

biacromial width is the length of the clavicles themselves, excluding the deltoid muscles

52 cm is good for bideltoid

it was like 44cm 3 weeks ago
interesting

 

[Copemaxxing]

it was like 44cm 3 weeks ago
interesting

Shoulder width not biteldoid lol


44cm bitel is less than zyros..

 

[Ocelot]

it was like 44cm 3 weeks ago
interesting

44? impossible looking at that picture. I would've guessed around 46-48 minimum

 

[goat2x]

Shoulder width not biteldoid lolView attachment 737082


44cm bitel is less than zyros..

zyros is 38 max jfl
you are around that area 47