Is NDness/autism linked to lower testosterone

[poreskin]

Im not talking about poor social skills that gymcells have, but genuine autism.

I swear its correlated I just cant prove it.

Also most autistic people have something off about their face, like weirdly undimorphic or looking young, you cant pinpoint it but ykwim.

Alot of autistic people have a very low amount of musclemass but there never lean, even if there skinny there always soft.
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As a person with mild autism and spedness, I do have something off about my face and have always been known to have low testosterone/feminine, EVEN MY mom says it

I litterally cannot change my body with training, ive tried to train and avoid plastics and eat like eggs and redmeat nothing happens.

i do have a high iq tho.

My estrogen I think is obviously lowered now but testosterone is still low.
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I notice as I hit puberty I looked more NT, I became more NT, but it never fully fixed, im pretty sure one point of time I had zero social awareness and self awareness on anything

Im just always looked a little off

 

[Prøphet]

Higher prenatal test

 

[poreskin]

Higher prenatal test

Yup, I also show the signs of high prenatal test but low test now

And my mom and dad had me at an older age like 35 and dad was 40

 

[Prøphet]

Yup, I also show the signs of high prenatal test but low test now

And my mom and dad had me at an older age like 35 and dad was 40

Same it’s over

 

[poreskin]

Same it’s over

Have you always been known to not have an androgenic or masculine presence, like

even if its not extreme, were you like the tall skinny or tall fat kid in class, were you like subconciously seen as and people give u hints that they think ur soy

how big have your forearms been, have u tried to grow them?

 

[Prøphet]

Have you always been known to not have an androgenic or masculine presence, like

how big have your forearms been, have u tried to grow them?

My wrists are tiny I have a dogshit frame with super wide hips and narrow clavicles

but high fwhr and ring finger to index finger ratio plus skin extremely susceptible to androgens / aga

 

[poreskin]

My wrists are tiny I have a dogshit frame with super wide hips and narrow clavicles

but high fwhr and ring finger to index finger ratio plus skin extremely susceptible to androgens / aga

my wrists and bonethickness are ass

my hips are wide

my clavicles are also somehow wide/wider.

Are you skinnyfat?

 

[Prøphet]

my wrists and bonethickness are ass

my hips are wide

my clavicles are also somehow wide/wider.

Are you skinnyfat?

Yes always been prone to skinny fat build

 

[160cmcurry]

seems like it, pajeets tend to aromatize more than other ethnics producing all that soy estrogen whenever their body tries to produce testosterone during their growing years making them more non nt on average. low t is correlated with high anxiety, nervousness, soy voice, weird awkward movement, overthinking a lot which line a lot with non nt traits.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Im not talking about poor social skills that gymcells have, but genuine autism.

I swear its correlated I just cant prove it.

Also most autistic people have something off about their face, like weirdly undimorphic or looking young, you cant pinpoint it but ykwim.

Alot of autistic people have a very low amount of musclemass but there never lean, even if there skinny there always soft.
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As a person with mild autism and spedness, I do have something off about my face and have always been known to have low testosterone/feminine, EVEN MY mom says it

I litterally cannot change my body with training, ive tried to train and avoid plastics and eat like eggs and redmeat nothing happens.

i do have a high iq tho.

My estrogen I think is obviously lowered now but testosterone is still low.
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I notice as I hit puberty I looked more NT, I became more NT, but it never fully fixed, im pretty sure one point of time I had zero social awareness and self awareness on anything

Im just always looked a little off

Hop on T son

 

[6”3neartyronelite]

Depends what kinda ND? Autism maybe I got ADHD and my test is fine

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

seems like it, pajeets tend to aromatize more than other ethnics producing all that soy estrogen whenever their body tries to produce testosterone during their growing years making them more non nt on average. low t is correlated with high anxiety, nervousness, soy voice, weird awkward movement, overthinking a lot which line a lot with non nt traits.

Yea starting T and exposure therapy made years of changes in a few months as far as social anxiety

I'm a whole different person and it's so nice

 

[poreskin]

Yes always been prone to skinny fat build

have u tried to get rid of it and if so how did it go


As for bonemass, in the face i have good bonemass and forward growth with no major recessions, although im lacking a ramus and my mandible is too short and compressed.

but i have a wide palate, decently wide jaw and a forward growth, just no ramus and my chin height is bad.

also my eye region is great according to ratios, but it looks ND for some reason like it look weirdly feminine/childlike/neotenous, like if u saw my eye region without the eyebrows u cant tell if its a man or woman.

and yeah if i take a picture of just my eye i do look sped

 

[poreskin]

Yea starting T and exposure therapy made years of changes in a few months as far as social anxiety

I'm a whole different person and it's so nice

what about apperance, what age did u start

 

[Prøphet]

Yea starting T and exposure therapy made years of changes in a few months as far as social anxiety

I'm a whole different person and it's so nice

What dose of test do you take does that shit actually work to fix your personality?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

what about apperance, what age did u start

Nigga I was taking 25mg per week instead of 250mg because I'm retarded so really I only started a few months ago

As far as appearance I think hgh may have helped facial bonemass even at 16-17 but I can't make the claim for certain

I started at late 16 I believe after coping with peptides for a bit, I am very dimorphic now and was not before

Some of that is leanmaxx though

 

[truecel9]

Im not talking about poor social skills that gymcells have, but genuine autism.

I swear its correlated I just cant prove it.

Also most autistic people have something off about their face, like weirdly undimorphic or looking young, you cant pinpoint it but ykwim.

Alot of autistic people have a very low amount of musclemass but there never lean, even if there skinny there always soft.
---------------------------

As a person with mild autism and spedness, I do have something off about my face and have always been known to have low testosterone/feminine, EVEN MY mom says it

I litterally cannot change my body with training, ive tried to train and avoid plastics and eat like eggs and redmeat nothing happens.

i do have a high iq tho.

My estrogen I think is obviously lowered now but testosterone is still low.
-


I notice as I hit puberty I looked more NT, I became more NT, but it never fully fixed, im pretty sure one point of time I had zero social awareness and self awareness on anything

Im just always looked a little off

This shit makes no sense at all since you get born with autism

 

[Prøphet]

have u tried to get rid of it and if so how did it go


As for bonemass, in the face i have good bonemass and forward growth with no major recessions, although im lacking a ramus and my mandible is too short and compressed.

but i have a wide palate, decently wide jaw and a forward growth, just no ramus and my chin height is bad.

also my eye region is great according to ratios, but it looks ND for some reason like it look weirdly feminine/childlike/neotenous, like if u saw my eye region without the eyebrows u cant tell if its a man or woman.

and yeah if i take a picture of just my eye i do look sped

Yeah NDs have a certain look in the eyes I can’t tell if it’s merely expression or something structural

I made decent progress gymcelling but I put on a lot of fat so I have to be careful with my calories

But if I don’t eat a ton of calories I don’t gain much muscle either so I kind of spin my wheels

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

What dose of test do you take does that shit actually work to fix your personality?

My personality is the same I am now just free, not afraid of interactions, not afraid to eat in public by myself

It was mostly though exposure therapy and starting at a job with all or mostly attractive young women

They all wanted me because I'm HTN and constantly got compliments, which made it easier

Additionally, a large part of confidence is believing you are the man, genuinely, you can't just pretend to be sure of yourself or the mask will eventually slip

Do minor insults and jokes at your expense actually spike cortisol? Then you are not confident

A level of narcissism is very necessary to assert yourself in this world,

I have reasons to be narcissistic, ive endured hardship and im quite intellegent, the looks are not the primary component

You have to actually upgrade your character like it's an MMO, go to work and work hard, even when you're a bit sick, not stroke your cock like a modernized animal

You need reasons to believe in yourself, or it's just delusion.

Be better, and look better, and do better (try harder to be social) and that's IT.

 

[poreskin]

Yeah NDs have a certain look in the eyes I can’t tell if it’s merely expression or something structural

I made decent progress gymcelling but I put on a lot of fat so I have to be careful with my calories

But if I don’t eat a ton of calories I don’t gain much muscle either so I kind of spin my wheels

have you tried roids to increase nutrient partioning

have you taken a testosterone test?

I did take one at 15 and it was 280ng/dl

however its been one year and a half so it couldve risen wayy more, like it could be 1000+

I do get morning wood and have an insanely high sex drive, feeling alot of energy and i wanna beat people up

very competitive aswell and dominant, like a big ego

and i do have estrogenic affects like mood swings, acne(acne mild at most.)

and I do find it easier to gain strength, but im cutting, so I wont really be able to see if im able to put a significant amount of muscle on

I will take a test and see, gonna take it this week

My estimate is 350-450 or like 700-1000,

im a really late bloomer so

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Yeah NDs have a certain look in the eyes I can’t tell if it’s merely expression or something structural

I made decent progress gymcelling but I put on a lot of fat so I have to be careful with my calories

But if I don’t eat a ton of calories I don’t gain much muscle either so I kind of spin my wheels

I know this giga autist girl at my workplace

She literally walks with NO hand or arm movement

Me and my friend caged when I told them "she's moving like she got a karambit"

Just hands in front of her, no movement, only legs

 

[Prøphet]

I know this giga autist girl at my workplace

She literally walks with NO hand or arm movement

Me and my friend caged when I told them "she's moving like she got a karambit"

Just hands in front of her, no movement, only legs
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Yeah dude I swear it literally affects your fine motor skills if you’re unlucky, Ive always had a weird gait and moved my feet weird whenever I walked when I was in middle school I literally had to train myself to walk normally

 

[Prøphet]

have you tried roids to increase nutrient partioning

have you taken a testosterone test?

I did take one at 15 and it was 280ng/dl

however its been one year and a half so it couldve risen wayy more, like it could be 1000+

I do get morning wood and have an insanely high sex drive, feeling alot of energy and i wanna beat people up

very competitive aswell and dominant, like a big ego

and i do have estrogenic affects like mood swings, acne(acne mild at most.)

and I do find it easier to gain strength, but im cutting, so I wont really be able to see if im able to put a significant amount of muscle on

I will take a test and see, gonna take it this week

My estimate is 350-450 or like 700-1000,

im a really late bloomer so

No I never roided because the Norwood reaper is absolutely nuking my hair

But I’m actually considering to start taking test because I can’t tolerate finasteride it makes me so depressed and low energy, I might try to combine finasteride with test to see if it helps my side effects without fucking up my hair

I never took a blood test but I would assume my test is fine naturally Ive always had a very high libido and other signs outside of my appearance like voice and body hair