Is neck/hyoid bone training cope?

[HtnGymcel]

I have seen a few tiktoks about this topic and seen some crazy transformations.

I was wondering if it's cope or if it does help. if so, how should i do it?

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[Orka]

I have seen a few tiktoks about this topic and seen some crazy transformations.

I was wondering if it's cope or if it does help. if so, how should i do it?

picture for reference:
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He lost weight, you can't move your hyoid bone

 

[HtnGymcel]

He lost weight, you can't move your hyoid bone

Is this really just lower bf %?

 

[archef]

Neck training is fire but dont expect any of the shit posted on titktok

 

[HtnGymcel]

Neck training is fire but dont expect any of the shit posted on titktok

Do you know any guides on it? maybe a thread here on .org

 

[Orka]

Is this really just lower bf %?

Yes, keep in mind he might have gotten fat dissolver near his hyoid OR he could have dropped his tongue extra low to put emphasis on his baggy skin below his jaw in the before photos

 

[archef]

Do you know any guides on it? maybe a thread here on .org

i dint remember any,probably just search on yt

Tbh just weighted neck curls+extensions

 

[Yahya]

Is this really just lower bf %?

Neck training is fire but dont expect any of the shit posted on titktok

He lost weight, you can't move your hyoid bone

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[MegaChopped]

He lost weight, you can't move your hyoid bone

There has been plenty of studies of even old people raising their resting hyoid position

 

[Orka]

There has been plenty of studies of even old people raising their resting hyoid position

I'd love to take a look at some of them in that case, because I'm very sure your hyoid is anatomically unmoveable permanently.

Any pmed studies?

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I have seen a few tiktoks about this topic and seen some crazy transformations.

I was wondering if it's cope or if it does help. if so, how should i do it?

picture for reference:
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Well mewing is hyoid training. Personally I found some results but not extreme like for the past 3 years of me sitting all day with my tounge at the roof my mouth my hyoid prop went up 5 or so cm

 

[MegaChopped]

I'd love to take a look at some of them in that case, because I'm very sure your hyoid is anatomically unmoveable permanently.

Any pmed studies?

There is a few about workouts, especially with singers.
Then obviously using injections.
The most interesting is the study of orthognatic surgeries where they imply that the changed tongue position after the surgery also raised the hyoid. Can you raise hyoid by changing tongue position without orthognatic surgery would be interesting to see.

 

[Orka]

There is a few about workouts, especially with singers.
Then obviously using injections.
The most interesting is the study of orthognatic surgeries where they imply that the changed tongue position after the surgery also raised the hyoid. Can you raise hyoid by changing tongue position without orthognatic surgery would be interesting to see.

Studies about workouts usually use subjects that had a tongue tie beforehand

Injections are likely fat dissolvers, and surgery is surgery.

I asked for you to link some studies, not to say stuff.

Cause your claim was that there's studies of people "raising their hyoid positions" which implies they could do it themselves. When these things are always done at a clinics office


Links, please and thanks.

 

[MegaChopped]

Studies about workouts usually use subjects that had a tongue tie beforehand

Injections are likely fat dissolvers, and surgery is surgery.

I asked for you to link some studies, not to say stuff.

Cause your claim was that there's studies of people "raising their hyoid positions" which implies they could do it themselves. When these things are always done at a clinics office


Links, please and thanks.

Effect of head lift exercise on kinematic motion of the hyolaryngeal complex and aspiration in patients with dysphagic stroke - PubMed

The head lift exercise (HLE) is a head-raising workout performed in a supine position. This exercise facilitates activation of the submental muscles located above the hyoid bone in front of the neck. HLE is a potential method to improve the movement of the hyolaryngeal movement and swallowing...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Surgery is surgery, yes. But if you change your tongue position (subconsciously) after surgery and that raises your hyoid bone, nothing says you can't raise your hyoid bone by consciously changing your tongue position.

Surgery results:

Changes in hypopharyngeal airway space and in tongue and hyoid bone positions following the surgical correction of mandibular prognathism - PubMed

This study was aimed at measuring the changes in the hyoid bone position, tongue position, and hypopharyngeal airway space in subjects with mandibular setback osteotomies. Lateral cephalometric radiographs of 15 patients were taken preoperatively, 6 weeks postoperatively, and at the follow-up...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8228428/ (These changes demonstrate the ability of the hyoid bone and tongue structures to adapt to changes in the intermaxillary space following osteotomy)

 

[Cessation]

Nigga bought some shit just to get banned

 

[Cessation]

Nvm

 

[mkawsm]

training your suprahyoids is one of the best softmaxxes out there.

at my least lean ever I was around 25% bodyfat and still had ramus visibility because of my excessive hyoid training. Right now I'm around 14-16% and my jaw is incredibly sharp and I have strong ramus and mandibular definition in any lighting or position.

Yes, you CAN shift your hyoid bone with enough time and consistent training, and NO, suprahyoid training is NOT cope.

 

[framemonke]

neck training is good asf

 

[LegendaryKennen]

training your suprahyoids is one of the best softmaxxes out there.

at my least lean ever I was around 25% bodyfat and still had ramus visibility because of my excessive hyoid training. Right now I'm around 14-16% and my jaw is incredibly sharp and I have strong ramus and mandibular definition in any lighting or position.

Yes, you CAN shift your hyoid bone with enough time and consistent training, and NO, suprahyoid training is NOT cope.

the shit nick moggtar does seems pretty good

 

[Twolitdyno]

There is not gonna be that significant improvement but he did lose a lot of bf tho

 

[jeoyw9192]

Well mewing is hyoid training. Personally I found some results but not extreme like for the past 3 years of me sitting all day with my tounge at the roof my mouth my hyoid prop went up 5 or so cm

Permanently, as in that's ur natural position without having to mew?

 

[jeoyw9192]

training your suprahyoids is one of the best softmaxxes out there.

at my least lean ever I was around 25% bodyfat and still had ramus visibility because of my excessive hyoid training. Right now I'm around 14-16% and my jaw is incredibly sharp and I have strong ramus and mandibular definition in any lighting or position.

Yes, you CAN shift your hyoid bone with enough time and consistent training, and NO, suprahyoid training is NOT cope.

What did you do specifically though, in terms of training the suprahyoid

the shit nick moggtar does seems pretty good

Arent his results frauded though, where in the post ascension videos he's mewing which obviously sucks up the submental region? Or is he not mewing and that's just his natural permanent view?

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Permanently, as in that's ur natural position without having to mew?

Yes

 

[jeoyw9192]

Yes

Btw what softmaxxes/hardmaxxes do you have planned next lol

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Btw what softmaxxes/hardmaxxes do you have planned next lol

My next softmax is getting down 10% bf and hardmax just more fillers around my jaw chin and cheekbone region and in the later future some infra implants

 

[LegendaryKennen]

Arent his results frauded though, where in the post ascension videos he's mewing which obviously sucks up the submental region? Or is he not mewing and that's just his natural permanent view?

not sure about his transformations but a lot of his methods do engage the hyoid muscles, i did some of them and theres a video of the way he chintucks which i tried (the movements are different from regular chin-tucks that dudes like mike mew does) and it really engages ur hyoid muscles

 

[Alex_notmogging]

He lost weight, you can't move your hyoid bone

But whats with that study where eldery people used some fuckass training to move the hyoid bone and it actually moved

 

[TrveShortcel]

I have seen a few tiktoks about this topic and seen some crazy transformations.

I was wondering if it's cope or if it does help. if so, how should i do it?

picture for reference:
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Only mewing can raise your hyoid bone; not move it.

 

[Assymetry]

Mainly bodyfat and frauding