Is optimal should width to waist ratio really 1.618?

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Is the optimal shoulder width to wait ratio really just 1.6:1, meaning more than 1.6 is less aesthetic? Really, what is the actual limit where it's too much

Every single person on the left has a more aesthetic physique than Jeff on the right, even though he is the closest to "the golden ratio"
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Jeff has a blocky waist and below average clavicles. 1.6+ is the ideal for an aesthetic physique anything below that will affect the look of your physique a lot.

He doesn't have much of a V Taper that people are striving for in aesthetics.
 
He doesn't have much of a v taper, even at 1.6? I would agree with you, but then if that's 1.6, what is the actual optimal ratio before it becomes too cartoonist?
 

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