Is Side Profile Cope?

[DelonLover1999]

If you have a lot of ‘dissonance’ between front and side (a disproportionately better front), how much does that hinder your attractiveness, would you say?

Explain your reasoning in the comments.

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[Deleted member 13626]

It can help you identify potential flaws. But I’ve seen gl people with average or bad side profile and the opposite

So it’s mostly cope. 3/4 view and front matter more

 

[Deleted member 41749]

It’s not good for your confidence, because you will become too worried about people looking at you from side
It does more damage on your mental

 

[Ryan]

If you have a lot of ‘dissonance’ between front and side (a disproportionately better front), how much does that hinder your attractiveness, would you say?

Explain your reasoning in the comments.

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its a meme front matters

 

[DelonLover1999]

It’s not good for your confidence, because you will become too worried about people looking at you from side
It does more damage on your mental

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[cytoplasm]

"No"

 

[St.TikTokcel]

If you have a lot of ‘dissonance’ between front and side (a disproportionately better front), how much does that hinder your attractiveness, would you say?

Explain your reasoning in the comments.

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Good side = good front in most of the cases. Shit side = recessed, no forward growth, supras 404 and so on.

 

[DelonLover1999]

Good side = good front in most of the cases. Shit side = recessed, no forward growth, supras 404 and so on.

Forward growth is kind of a meme

I could list so many ppl with barely no anteface who are gl

Midface projection and under eye support and whatnot are very important, but the actual length of the maxilla in profile is very overrated (i.e. cavill’s profile is better than barrett’s)

 

[DelonLover1999]

"No"
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Gandy’s profile is good tho, quite above average actually

 

[Orc]

side profile matters in motion but it's not as important for photos.

if forward growth automatically made you attractive I'd be the most attractive person on the entire forum but I'm not.

 

[cytoplasm]

Gandy’s profile is good tho, quite above average actually

I agree, but it's worse than his front significantly, his nose can look really bad at times

 

[DelonLover1999]

I agree, but it's worse than his front significantly, his nose can look really bad at times

Also Jon K’s mandible is short but his profile doesn’t get nullified by it imo

A better example of front and side disharmony would be pattinson or christian bale or even me tbh

 

[DelonLover1999]

side profile matters in motion but it's not as important for photos.

if forward growth automatically made you attractive I'd be the most attractive person on the entire forum but I'm not.

I remember you saying you weren’t that forward grown

maybe I’m confusing something

 

[thickdickdaddy27]

It's cope compared to front and 3/4. I've seen a lot of people with good side profiles but hideous frontals making it a useless good trait

 

[cytoplasm]

Also Jon K’s mandible is short but his profile doesn’t get nullified by it imo

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A better example of front and side disharmony would be pattinson or christian bale or even me tbh

I dont think its shit, but its much worse than his front. It's struck me when I was watching some vids of him not knowing what his side looked like

 

[Orc]

I remember you saying you weren’t that forward grown

maybe I’m confusing something

I'm abnormally forward grown to the point it's disgusting, my chin is almost in line with my nose.

 

[standardcel]

Its important

 

[Alt Number 3]

RACE

 

[DelonLover1999]

I'm abnormally forward grown to the point it's disgusting, my chin is almost in line with my nose.

Oh, so your mandible is long, with an overpowering chin

Forward growth usually refers to the lower maxilla, iirc

Black people are often said to be the most forward grown race but they don’t usually have very strong chins

 

[Deleted member 25198]

 

[DelonLover1999]

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Black ppl can get away with this more, it’s been explained why (the entire pheno has less chin projection on average, so it offsets)

 

[einzigartig]

If you have a lot of ‘dissonance’ between front and side (a disproportionately better front), how much does that hinder your attractiveness, would you say?

Explain your reasoning in the comments.

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I'd say a good side is a big halo not necessarily a failo if it isn't good

 

[emeraldglass]

If you have a lot of ‘dissonance’ between front and side (a disproportionately better front), how much does that hinder your attractiveness, would you say?

Explain your reasoning in the comments.

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I'd say the front view accounts for about 60-65% of overall appearance importance, with the side view making up the remaining 40-35%. Having an good front profile is slightly more crucial, but a good side profile still matters since people often see you from the side. However, as long as you have distinct dimorphic characteristics from the side and maintain certain favorable proportions, you're good.

 

[Orc]

Oh, so your mandible is long, with an overpowering chin

Forward growth usually refers to the lower maxilla, iirc

it doesn't, it refers to a combination of the mid face, lower third, and brow.

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Forward growth is kind of a meme

I could list so many ppl with barely no anteface who are gl

Midface projection and under eye support and whatnot are very important, but the actual length of the maxilla in profile is very overrated (i.e. cavill’s profile is better than barrett’s)

You don't need anteface. Simply need an adequte forward growth like my avi.

 

[DelonLover1999]

You don't need anteface. Simply need an adequte forward growth like my avi.
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His gonial angle might seem good to you but it’s actually his biggest flaw here (mandibular plane is too straight)

but yeah aside from that and bf% his profile is good

 

[Jason Voorhees]

People rarely see your front. You are mostly seen in your 3/4th, side profile or some angle between them.

 

[DelonLover1999]

People rarely see your front. You are mostly seen in your 3/4th, side profile or some angle between them.

There are some social situations where the front is dominant (dinner date)

and some where profile is (car, classroom)

I remember someone saying that a good front with a bad profile is a good surprise, while the opposite is a bad surprise

pretty good analogy i think

 

[DelonLover1999]

it doesn't, it refers to a combination of the mid face, lower third, and brow.

Makes more sense that way

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

Majority of the times yes it is - if you aren't recessed

BUt if you are recessed- then it is NOT cope

 

[DelonLover1999]

No, 3/4s is the most important and side profile, side profile shows how forward grown u are

Side more important than front?

 

[DelonLover1999]

In my opinion yes, it shows better how the skull is formed and the shape of all the cranium. Front can be haloed with stuff like big red lips, a10 eyes, etc but side profile shows the real genetics

Front shows genetics way more actually

Profile is better for assessing development

But I disagree tbh, no way is side more important than front

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

In my opinion yes, it shows better how the skull is formed and the shape of all the cranium. Front can be haloed with stuff like big red lips, a10 eyes, etc but side profile shows the real genetics

Stick to living in Bolivia son

 

[Eduardo DOV]

it matters but it doesn't mean the face cant be perceived as gL with a bad profile.
I'm recessed and big-nosed and I've already received a lot of iois and I've been approached by girls.
but that doesn't change the fact that I would certainly improve fixing my jaw with a bimax(if well done) or genio

 

[DelonLover1999]

It's cope compared to front and 3/4. I've seen a lot of people with good side profiles but hideous frontals making it a useless good trait

Do you have examples? I’ve never seen someone with a legitimately good profile and a bad front

 

[DelonLover1999]

They have good side profiles jfl

Gandy’s is very good

Jon’s is good (could be great with a longer mandible)

Lucky Blue’s is kinda bad tbh

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Do you have examples? I’ve never seen someone with a legitimately good profile and a bad front

They are extremely corelated but philtrumceldom is not that visible on the side.

 

[DelonLover1999]

They are extremely corelated but philtrumceldom is not that visible on the side.

Minor failo unless it fucks up your midface ratio massively or facial third proportions

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Minor failo unless it fucks up your midface ratio massively or facial third proportions

It does.

 

[DelonLover1999]

It does.
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This ain’t you

 

[St.TikTokcel]

This ain’t you

Yeah but I was merely giving an example. I am a philtrumcel to an extent since I have thin lips but it can always get worse.

 

[Deleted member 40471]

No side affects front

Your whole harmony is affected by maxilla and projection ie side

 

[DelonLover1999]

No side affects front

Your whole harmony is affected by maxilla and projection ie side

There’s much more to side than just the projection of the maxilla

 

[Deleted member 40471]

There’s much more to side than just the projection of the maxilla

Yes so my point is I AGREE side is important

example mandible
chin projection
ramus

All DO affect front

 

[Deleted member 46979]

side profile is an indicator of facial projectedness. it is not good or bad on its own. if you have a good skull development you will have a good profile. bad skull growth is noticeable from all angles, profile is useful for pinpointing more exactly the cause

bad maxilla has a systemtic effect. leads to retruded jaw, no chin, and no zygos

 

[DelonLover1999]

Yes so my point is I AGREE side is important

example mandible
chin projection
ramus

All DO affect front

Chin projection goes unnoticed in front

But yeah obv gonial angle and ramus impact it a lot

 

[It'snotover]

Nope, everything matters. Although you don't need a crazy side: just don't be recessed in every of the 3 thirds. Everyone between a good side and front would pick front since it's the most important.

"No"
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They all have far above average sides.

 

[DelonLover1999]

side profile is an indicator of facial projectedness. it is not good or bad on its own. if you have a good skull development you will have a good profile. bad skull growth is noticeable from all angles, profile is useful for pinpointing more exactly the cause

bad maxilla has a systemtic effect. leads to retruded jaw, no chin, and no zygos

It’s a bit more complicated than that

Side profile is the best angle to assess the growth/development the face, but you can’t lump all deformities together

Ofc things are generally connected, but in some cases, there are issues in the profile that can only be spotted in that angle or close to it (2/3)

 

[cytoplasm]

Nope, everything matters. Although you don't need a crazy side: just don't be recessed in every of the 3 thirds. Everyone between a good side and front would pick front since it's the most important.

They all have far above average sides.

They're all much worse then their fronts. They descend when they turn their heads around

 

[It'snotover]

They're all much worse then their fronts. They descend when they turn their heads around

Yes their side is not on par with their front but the point is it is still way better compared to normie side. Most of them don't have bad or even average side to begin with except john where even with tilt fraud his jaw still looks short.