Discussion Is the average man really a 3/10? And do looks really matter at all?

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I came across this video a week or two ago but the entire idea didn't fully settle with me until today. I think I now believe the average man (5/10 or 4 psl) is a 3/10. So if someone rated you a 5/10 you would be a 3/10 for women. This makes sense since most normies don't do very well.

A high tier normie (6/10 5 psl - psl score may be wrong) would be a 4/10. However, since a lot of high tier normies are tall, they can be a 5/10 for a women depending on race.

This would probably sound horrible to most of you since 5/10 doesn't seem like someone who could slay. The reason that they would slay is that looks really aren't as important as everyone makes it out to be. Both Robert Patterson and Nick Bateman are around 6/10 maybe 5/10 on this new looks scale, however they would both slay in real life. So really the "average man" does slay, but the average man to women is much higher on the looks scale.

On a side note I've had women who were low tier to mid tier beckies ask me out, most blackpillers have rated me a 5/10 which makes sense. Adding my height and race that would make me have an smv of around 6 or 4/10 to women. The women that have asked me out were all done after I knew them for a while so my constant presence probably brought me back to around a 5/10. I was also not nt during this time so probably experienced less opportunities than I could have had. Anyway, let me know what you guys think.
 
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Yes, females think an average man is what most blackpillers rate a 6-7/10.
Average women rates herself a 9/10
And below average women rates herself a 10
They probably think that they are look matched with top tier high paying models
 
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Average women rates herself a 9/10
And below average women rates herself a 10
They probably think that they are look matched with top tier high paying models
The problem is that they are 9/10s and 10/10s since most men treat them that way. The average man rates the average female a 5/10 which is a standard bell curve but women rate the average man a 3/10.
 
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"And do looks really matter at all?" :feelsuhh:
They only matter up to a certain point. The only reason that most people have to worry about them is that they don't meet that level. All the slayers I know in real life are white high tier normies, some aren't even nt.
 
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What the actual fuck is the point in here anyway? You're basically defining a new scale which lowers the rating of ppl and also lowers the bar of slaying. So you're basically doing smth completely arbitrary and useless to at the same time say "women rate men low but also it doesn't matter". It'd be the fucking same as saying "well an incel is 9/10, HTN is 9.6/10, Chad is 9.9/10, and basically you only slay from 9.75 onwards". Nigga the only reason it makes a tiny bit of sense is because purely appearance wise people tend to rate everyone around 4-8 (see eyeme.io ratings) but that's mostly because they see everyone rates like that so they eventually do so as well (since PSLers rate in narrow scale and it was infested with them at start, and still is)
 
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What the actual fuck is the point in here anyway? You're basically defining a new scale which lowers the rating of ppl and also lowers the bar of slaying. So you're basically doing smth completely arbitrary and useless to at the same time say "women rate men low but also it doesn't matter". It'd be the fucking same as saying "well an incel is 9/10, HTN is 9.6/10, Chad is 9.9/10, and basically you only slay from 9.75 onwards". Nigga the only reason it makes a tiny bit of sense is because purely appearance wise people tend to rate everyone around 4-8 (see eyeme.io ratings) but that's mostly because they see everyone rates like that so they eventually do so as well (since PSLers rate in narrow scale and it was infested with them at start, and still is)
I guess my point was that while most women rate the average man a 3/10, a 5/10 in there eyes is still fuckable technically. They obviously virtue signal when they give ratings of 4-8 cause most normies get those ratings. But I've had girls on omegle rate htns 9/10s and 10/10s which is basically chad at that point. Obviously depending on race it may bump you down a point though.
 
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Trying to remember what that OLD survey with females said. I believe they only found 19% of guys to be above average and found like 58% of guys to be below average or worse.
 
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Trying to remember what that OLD survey with females said. I believe they only found 19% of guys to be above average and found like 58% of guys to be below average or worse.
This may be the one
 

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Average college age normie in germany is 6psl, 190cm tall, has a ripped body even though he has never stepped a foot in the gym and models in his free time
:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
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No they arent, german guys are ugly according to several german posters here
Their chads are real chads though unlike in the United states where a lot of people that are considered chad are only chadlite or htn.
 
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No they arent, german guys are ugly according to several german posters here
no no they are all above average and super tall. its not rare that i get heightmogged. my 16yo cousin is literally taller than meπŸ˜‚
 
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Absolute mogger height. I'm 6' 3" I don't know what that is in cm though.
i think 6'3, is 190cm, it's very good also but not thtat relevant to girls
 
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This guy is so shit at rating people holy fuck.
 
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Their chads are real chads though unlike in the United states where a lot of people that are considered chad are only chadlite or htn.
In France all prime men looks all the same : recessed Normies cuck that beard fraud as fuck. Black hair and brown eyes. Weak chin and flat face. Narrow mandible.

So glad to live here. Germany is the Chadstralia in Europe. CHAD isn't common there but he is available to every women on Tinder.

In France on Tinder I found only 15/20 Chadlites at least 40 % of them are Chad fish. With about 3800 swipes in total. 100 HTN only.

Locationmaaxxx where other men are ugly and beckies have decent body theory.
 
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In France all prime men looks all the same : recessed Normies cuck that beard fraud as fuck. Black hair and brown eyes. Weak chin and flat face. Narrow mandible.

So glad to live here. Germany is the Chadstralia in Europe. CHAD isn't common there but he is available to every women on Tinder.

In France on Tinder I found only 15/20 Chadlites at least 40 % of them are Chad fish. With about 3800 swipes in total. 100 HTN only.

Locationmaaxxx where other men are ugly and beckies have decent body theory.
Are french women attractive like media suggests? Easy pickings if you are HTN+ in France.
 
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Are french women attractive like media suggests? Easy pickings if you are HTN+ in France.
Yes beckies are decent not like Germany where they can be fat. French women are the slimmest in Europe. You have only 1-2.fat girl in a classroom of 30 typically.
 
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The average man on a night out will be considerably more attractive than average. The average man in a discount store will be less attractive than average. "Average" is meaningless for practical uses because we don't all socialise the same way, even at an unconscious level people want to socialise with their own, so you have to consider the social circle before assessing what is average. If your only circle for meeting people is online dating, then the "average" person will be very attractive since the algorithm will hold back all but the most attractive male profiles to keep women interested.
 
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French men look like utter shit Meds. Black hair recessed and beardfrauding to the moon. No bones only dense eyebrows and dense beards. They have no jaw no chin. But their browridge is decent on average. So they can look OK if beardfrauding.

Average Frenchman looks like Portuguese small height and dark brown eyes. Even Italians have more blue eyed and blonde men.

A Nordic tall forward grown like Arvid gustavsson moggs every men in a city of 200 000 to oblivion.
 
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The average man on a night out will be considerably more attractive than average. The average man in a discount store will be less attractive than average. "Average" is meaningless for practical uses because we don't all socialise the same way, even at an unconscious level people want to socialise with their own, so you have to consider the social circle before assessing what is average. If your only circle for meeting people is online dating, then the "average" person will be very attractive since the algorithm will hold back all but the most attractive male profiles to keep women interested.
Yes you need to mogg 90 % of men of your own social circle and don't be ridiculous against your local Chadlite/Chad.
 
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I came across this video a week or two ago but the entire idea didn't fully settle with me until today. I think I now believe the average man (5/10 or 4 psl) is a 3/10. So if someone rated you a 5/10 you would be a 3/10 for women. This makes sense since most normies don't do very well.
It all depends on location and circumstance. Refer to this post that I made here.

In short, if you live in a poorer area in the West, people will generally be less attractive, while a richer part would be more attractive. Also, if you include EVERY MALE to make an average, obviously it will be skewed left as there are old and overweight people abound. Try to think about young men that didn't eat themselves out of the dating market -- that average is around 5.
 
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Hypergamy does not exist. The average guy you walk by on the street is not even a little bit close to being an incel. Everyday normal good looking guys that you’ll come across decently often live life on absolute easy mode if height is anywhere close to average.

This is what happens when dumb kids with 0 experience fall for the bullshit that ugly narcies spout because they absolutely refuse to accept the fact that they’re not gl. β€œMuh muh I’m chadlite but i muh struggle muh hypergamy is so rampant nowadays” no dumbass you’re just LTN at best
 
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Hypergamy does not exist. The average guy you walk by on the street is not even a little bit close to being an incel. Everyday normal good looking guys that you’ll come across decently often live life on absolute easy mode if height is anywhere close to average.

This is what happens when dumb kids with 0 experience fall for the bullshit that ugly narcies spout because they absolutely refuse to accept the fact that they’re not gl. β€œMuh muh I’m chadlite but i muh struggle muh hypergamy is so rampant nowadays” no dumbass you’re just LTN at best

I see 5/10 males shot down by looksmatched females all the time at bars especially with the post college age crowd. It's not easy post college age if you aren't close to a 7/10. Even 6/10s struggle some if they aren't tall.
 
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5/10 is LTN 3.75 PSL everyday average Joe has one or two big failos and same SMV as incel.

6/10 is MTN 4 -4.25 PSL range has hair collagen no big failos but boneless and usually prime young men in LTR and NT maxxed.

7/10 is HTN 4.75 PSL- 5 PSL only minor failos, good harmony, some bones, typically your local slayer or cute boy from your classroom all LTB and some MTB lust for.

8/10 is Chadlite 5.25 PSL- 5.5 PSL among the top 3 best looking man in school/ neighborhood / town. Your local CHAD is Instagram maaxxeed and all Beckies from LTB to HTB chase for. He is in LTR with stacylite and fucks Beckies when he cheat.
Has so much appeal every Foids forget about her own boyfriend when he is in sight.
 
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Hypergamy does not exist. The average guy you walk by on the street is not even a little bit close to being an incel. Everyday normal good looking guys that you’ll come across decently often live life on absolute easy mode if height is anywhere close to average.

This is what happens when dumb kids with 0 experience fall for the bullshit that ugly narcies spout because they absolutely refuse to accept the fact that they’re not gl. β€œMuh muh I’m chadlite but i muh struggle muh hypergamy is so rampant nowadays” no dumbass you’re just LTN at best

Contender for lowest IQ post of the week
 
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Average man is 5/10 but unfuckable according to the females
Being in a relationship isn't the same as sexual attraction. Much like a woman's attractiveness is defined by the level of men she can hook into a relationship, not by the level of men that pump and dump her, a man's attractiveness is measured by the level of women he can pull for ONS.
Average guy only has sex in relationships if you don't count some drunken party sex where it's anyone with anyone.
So yeah, average guy might as well be zero.
 
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Being in a relationship isn't the same as sexual attraction. Much like a woman's attractiveness is defined by the level of men she can hook into a relationship, not by the level of men that pump and dump her, a man's attractiveness is measured by the level of women he can pull for ONS.
Average guy only has sex in relationships if you don't count some drunken party sex where it's anyone with anyone.
So yeah, average guy might as well be zero.
stop all the cope and get lefort 3
 
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I came across this video a week or two ago but the entire idea didn't fully settle with me until today. I think I now believe the average man (5/10 or 4 psl) is a 3/10. So if someone rated you a 5/10 you would be a 3/10 for women. This makes sense since most normies don't do very well.

A high tier normie (6/10 5 psl - psl score may be wrong) would be a 4/10. However, since a lot of high tier normies are tall, they can be a 5/10 for a women depending on race.

This would probably sound horrible to most of you since 5/10 doesn't seem like someone who could slay. The reason that they would slay is that looks really aren't as important as everyone makes it out to be. Both Robert Patterson and Nick Bateman are around 6/10 maybe 5/10 on this new looks scale, however they would both slay in real life. So really the "average man" does slay, but the average man to women is much higher on the looks scale.

On a side note I've had women who were low tier to mid tier beckies ask me out, most blackpillers have rated me a 5/10 which makes sense. Adding my height and race that would make me have an smv of around 6 or 4/10 to women. The women that have asked me out were all done after I knew them for a while so my constant presence probably brought me back to around a 5/10. I was also not nt during this time so probably experienced less opportunities than I could have had. Anyway, let me know what you guys think.

either youre attractive to the girl or not. If you are not you are automatically a 3 in their eyes.If youre attractive they will consider you above 7.
 
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The problem is that they are 9/10s and 10/10s since most men treat them that way. The average man rates the average female a 5/10 which is a standard bell curve but women rate the average man a 3/10.
What? The average man rates the average woman like 7/10.
 

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