Is the Mike Mentzer theory on working out and gaining muscle legit?

[Deleted member 26824]

Low Volume, High Intenisty and less frequently.

working out for 30-60min, 1-3 times a week, taking every set to absolute failure and only doing 1 set per exercise.

Giving high priority on rest.

Any Gymcels here who tried it or have an opinion on it?

Spoiler: gymcels

@MaestheticMaso @RealSurgerymax (you did weight loss) @Ekil73_YT @bishōnenmaxxer @Manletmachine

 

[Deleted member 20399]

3 days a week is ideal

 

[MongolTurk]

It'll work if you do it right, most people are not mentally equipped to push themselves to the necessary intensity threshold. You'd be better of finding a delicate balance of volume and intensity, perhaps more skewed towards the intensity side.

 

[Deleted member 26824]

3 days a week is ideal

you mean push pull legs?

It'll work if you do it right, most people are not mentally equipped to push themselves to the necessary intensity threshold. You'd be better of finding a delicate balance of volume and intensity, perhaps more skewed towards the intensity side.

i have no succes with doing it balanced, i need to try something new

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Low Volume, High Intenisty and less frequently.

working out for 30-60min, 1-3 times a week, taking every set to absolute failure and only doing 1 set per exercise.

Giving high priority on rest.

Any Gymcels here who tried it or have an opinion on it?

Spoiler: gymcels

@MaestheticMaso @RealSurgerymax (you did weight loss) @Ekil73_YT @bishōnenmaxxer @Manletmachine

Sure. It's mainly for natties since they need recovery the most. If you're roiding you gymcel 7 days a week.

 

[MongolTurk]

you mean push pull legs?

If you're doing 3 days a week, push pull legs would not be ideal as you would be training each muscle group once a week. Training stimulates muscle protein synthesis only for the subsequent 24 hours after the workout. You would probably be best going with some sort of full body split where you hit everything but prioritize something different each time.

i have no succes with doing it balanced, i need to try something new

go for it

 

[Deleted member 26824]

If you're doing 3 days a week, push pull legs would not be ideal as you would be training each muscle group once a week. Training stimulates muscle protein synthesis only for the subsequent 24 hours after the workout. You would probably be best going with some sort of full body split where you hit everything but prioritize something different each time.

go for it

i was looking for a workout plan, any idea how i should organise it with which exercises etc?

 

[MongolTurk]

i was looking for a workout plan, any idea how i should organise it with which exercises etc?

on one day you could prioritize your pushing muscles by hitting them first and dedicating the relative majority of your volume to bench, chest press, tricep pushdowns, etc. but you would still hit the other muscles in your body(maybe not as hard or for as long) so as to prevent atrophy. you could maybe do some less systemically fatiguing exercises for your legs when you're not prioritizing them like leg extension or hamstring curls or something rather than squats and deadlifts.

 

[Deleted member 26824]

on one day you could prioritize your pushing muscles by hitting them first and dedicating the relative majority of your volume to bench, chest press, tricep pushdowns, etc. but you would still hit the other muscles in your body(maybe not as hard or for as long) so as to prevent atrophy. you could maybe do some less systemically fatiguing exercises for your legs when you're not prioritizing them like leg extension or hamstring curls or something rather than squats and deadlifts.

does mentzer approve full body splits?

 

[Harakiri Fellatio]

Cope.

 

[Deleted member 26824]

Cope.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Low Volume, High Intenisty and less frequently.

working out for 30-60min, 1-3 times a week, taking every set to absolute failure and only doing 1 set per exercise.

Giving high priority on rest.

Any Gymcels here who tried it or have an opinion on it?

Spoiler: gymcels

@MaestheticMaso @RealSurgerymax (you did weight loss) @Ekil73_YT @bishōnenmaxxer @Manletmachine

1 set per exercise? Meaning if you are doing it 1-3 times a week anywhere from 1 set a week to max 3 sets a week?

 

[Deleted member 26824]

1 set per exercise? Meaning if you are doing it 1-3 times a week anywhere from 1 set a week to max 3 sets a week?

meaning one set per EXERCISE.

watch this if confused

 

[MongolTurk]

does mentzer approve full body splits?

Probably, he ran push pull legs but he took steroids, steroids prolong that muscle protein synthesis window so only hitting each muscle group once a week is permissible if you’re taking roids

 

[Deleted member 26824]

Probably, he ran push pull legs but he took steroids, steroids prolong that muscle protein synthesis window so only hitting each muscle group once a week is permissible if you’re taking roids

mike mentzers plan is better for nattys tho as steroids allow faster healing

 

[OldRooster]

Personal info
Mike Mentzer
Born	November 15, 1951[1] Germantown, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, U.S.[1]
Died	June 10, 2001 (aged 49)[2] Rolling Hills, California, U.S.[2]

 

[Deleted member 26824]

Personal info
Mike Mentzer
Born	November 15, 1951[1] Germantown, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, U.S.[1]
Died	June 10, 2001 (aged 49)[2] Rolling Hills, California, U.S.[2]

bro did not die because of how he worked out

 

[bishōnenmaxxer]

Thanks for the tag. I only got banned today though, so why tag me? Also jfl at not tagging actual gymcels.

 

[Deleted member 26824]

Thanks for the tag. I only got banned today though, so why tag me? Also jfl at not tagging actual gymcels.

idk you‘re black thought yall do sports.

dont know gymcels

 

[Deleted member 42009]

I would trust Mike, he really was knowleadgeable and showed his wisdom with results.

Obviously it applies to people who take tren.

 

[Deleted member 26824]

I would trust Mike, he really was knowleadgeable and showed his wisdom with results.

Obviously it applies to people who take tren.

nah

 

[Beanermaxxer]

Volume is just way too low, it definitely works if you can achieve the intensity that mike trained with tho(you won’t, he was on steroids and literally sniffed cocaine as a pre workout)

 

[bishōnenmaxxer]

idk you‘re black thought yall do sports.

dont know gymcels

@Orc

 

[cytoplasm]

Maybe but its not optimal

 

[gigell]

yes

 

[germanlooks]

Yes mogs high volume hard. Is also much more fun because you can really push to the limit everytime. Training till failure feels just great

But some of his theories are bs. Also just 1 set per exercise isn’t enough for most exercises imo.
I do around 4-6 sets for every muscle, split into 2-3 exercises. So max 2 sets per exercise, sometimes just 1 set if it makes more sense

 

[bishōnenmaxxer]

idk you‘re black thought yall do sports.

dont know gymcels

Also, your Guts avi mogged. Use another Berserk one.

 

[Deleted member 26824]

Also, your Guts avi mogged. Use another Berserk one.

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maybe

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

Can work but isn't "optimal" and chances are most of the people online shilling HIT aren't training with a fraction of the intensity of Mentzer or Yates

 

[Deleted member 26824]

Can work but isn't "optimal" and chances are most of the people online shilling HIT aren't training with a fraction of the intensity of Mentzer or Yates

i dont do hiit, just sport, sprinting and cardio

i have high intensity tho

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

i dont do hiit, just sport, sprinting and cardio

i have high intensity tho

HIT is high intensity training like Mentzer shills, not HIIT cardio
actual high intensity is training to absolute mechanical failure of the muscle and then past it where possible (assisted or cheat reps etc)

 

[Deleted member 26824]

HIT is high intensity training like Mentzer shills, not HIIT cardio
actual high intensity is training to absolute mechanical failure of the muscle and then past it where possible (assisted or cheat reps etc)

yes i do that, sometimes i dont get to absolute failure but it is intesive and i got 3sets total per exercise (2 warm ups)

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Low Volume, High Intenisty and less frequently.

working out for 30-60min, 1-3 times a week, taking every set to absolute failure and only doing 1 set per exercise.

Giving high priority on rest.

Any Gymcels here who tried it or have an opinion on it?

Spoiler: gymcels

@MaestheticMaso @RealSurgerymax (you did weight loss) @Ekil73_YT @bishōnenmaxxer @Manletmachine

I’d say 4 days is ideal. But I workout 5-6 days bht that’s cos I’m on a 1k deficit and doing my best to not lose mass.

But if I were “normal” I’d only do 3-4 days a week. Arms and shoulders can be done within the same day. One day for chest and back and that’s it. I don’t do leg day I do cardio and HIIT as my leg dah and it works

 

[Deleted member 26824]

I’d say 4 days is ideal. But I workout 5-6 days bht that’s cos I’m on a 1k deficit and doing my best to not lose mass.

But if I were “normal” I’d only do 3-4 days a week. Arms and shoulders can be done within the same day. One day for chest and back and that’s it. I don’t do leg day I do cardio and HIIT as my leg dah and it works

yup i do exactly this but with some extra exercises to hit all muscle groups and sometimes an extra set aswell and 48 hours between workouts

hiit and cardio for legs will maybe not be enough

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

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yup i do exactly this but with some extra exercises to hit all muscle groups and sometimes an extra set aswell and 48 hours between workouts

hiit and cardio for legs will maybe not be enough

I do it to lose weight tbh. But if I was bulking I could prob do anything I wanted as I am genticslly gifted in muscle building. I bascislly build muscle just sitting down all day and eating food. But if you have normie genes you prob will have to do this shit, same way I stuggle to lose weight cos I’m always hungry

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

idk you‘re black thought yall do sports.

dont know gymcels

He’s East African they have no muscles.

It’s only west Africans like me who are born by gods gift of Naturally being big and strong.

 

[Deleted member 28927]

just dont eat until you have abs

 

[oldcell]

ITs ideal i get much better gains and of muscles cutting times i went to gym

2-3 times instead of 5 , but u need to go to failure and it require certain mental strenght also machines are better for this

I was wasting time at gym before , since Mentzer i have better results with half of the time

Most people spend one hour at gym doing multiple exercises with low eight with zero effect

 

[Deleted member 26824]

ITs ideal i get much better gains and of muscles cutting times i went to gym

2-3 times instead of 5 , but u need to go to failure and it require certain mental strenght also machines are better for this

I was wasting time at gym before , since Mentzer i have better results with half of the time

Most people spend one hour at gym doing multiple exercises with low eight with zero effect

real.

i always go with a friend so we both actually push ourselfs to death, i risk a back injury everytime bc my muscle gives up and i still continue with bad form

 

[oldcell]

real.

i always go with a friend so we both actually push ourselfs to death, i risk a back injury everytime bc my muscle gives up and i still continue with bad form

U dont risk back injury going to failure if u do it on machines..and dont do heavy back demanding exercises

Lateral palm pulldowns, chest press,peck deck, isolated biceps and machine and triceps pull downs

 

[Deleted member 26824]

U dont risk back injury going to failure if u do it on machines..and dont do heavy back demanding exercises

Lateral palm pulldowns, chest press,peck deck, isolated biceps and machine and triceps pull downs

will do more machines next time

 

[vostos]

Low Volume, High Intenisty and less frequently.

working out for 30-60min, 1-3 times a week, taking every set to absolute failure and only doing 1 set per exercise.

Giving high priority on rest.

Any Gymcels here who tried it or have an opinion on it?

Spoiler: gymcels

@MaestheticMaso @RealSurgerymax (you did weight loss) @Ekil73_YT @bishōnenmaxxer @Manletmachine

I was trying to put on weight before rugby season, went from 78kg(171lbs) to 95kg(210lbs) in 5 months, gave me pretty good strength gains. From what I've seen it wont work for everyone since everyone needs a different amount of rest days and not everyone can give their all in one set. So if this doesnt seem like something that will work for you, don't do it!