Is this the most obvious sign of lower intelligence?

[fynn]

Nothing wrong with that and everyone has blacked out like this before and js not exclusive to 16 yr olds, unless you are severely sheltered by that age most are already getting their first part time jobs, learning to drive or already driving according ti the law and are responsible for all of these things, they can consent to a 22 yr old and they csn also be held accountsble for the dumb shit they do, also this is also not even weird or strange age gap as well, my dad dated my mother at 35 when she was 19, my grandpa married my grandma at around 17-18, these moralizations and fearmongering you have is irrational when you look at even modern history especially

well you got a point there but imo its just hella wierd for 22 year old to have 16 year old girl its just there 6 years apart so much can happen or change a person in that time you gotta understand that too

 

[Hess]

well you got a point there but imo its just hella wierd for 22 year old to have 16 year old girl its just there 6 years apart so much can happen or change a person in that time you gotta understand that too

Yeah there is always going to be a difference in maturity on some level but at the same time 16 yrs olds for both men and women is when they are finally grown up, at that age historically men have been conscripted or were treated and trained into their fsmily's craft (medieval times) its because at this age for the most part you sre finally done with puberty and have exited most of it, by that point you should be taking responsibilty for yourself, not to mention historicslly women have been married off at this age fornthousands of years, I don't think having less experience would disqualify them from not being able to take respondibilty for their actions

 

[Futur_streamerr]

Not everyone hits puberty at the same time and everyone has different levels of maturity and sentience at 16. Some women stay children all of their lives whilst women from war torn countries are already mature by puberty age. Normies are retarded because they applied their flawed brainwashed societal logic to each individual, which is cope

 

[jozsef316@gmail]

22 dating a 16 year old

 

[Regular Doomer]

if she craves the D you must give it to her

most 18yo girls in the world have more sex xp than whole looksmax forum combined, people are clueless beta cucks

only low inhib high T fellas are slaying young foids

 

[Big Boss]

if she craves the D you must give it to her

most 18yo girls in the world have more sex xp than whole looksmax forum combined, people are clueless beta cucks

only low inhib high T fellas are slaying young foids

Facts my nigga, its just basic common sense. Its funn because you’ll see the same niggas wanting a virgin yet are not willing to date younger, theyre psyoped into dating old hags, ofc theyre not gonna find a virgin

 

[pleasevanity]

Facts my nigga, its just basic common sense. Its funn because you’ll see the same niggas wanting a virgin yet are not willing to date younger, theyre psyoped into dating old hags, ofc theyre not gonna find a virgin

this is exactly why niggas are onto you

you're not looking for love at all you're just seeking to defile teenage girls because you feel so insecure if a woman that has slept with another man before, the 16 year old girl will obviously be attracted to an older guy because it's not uncommon for a woman to look up to a man who resembles an adult figure like her father and you're taking advantage of that

also most 16 year olds can't compete with a 22 year old man

in this thread all i've seen you say is "why why why why why" and i'm telling you why right now you're effectively grooming her before she has the maturity of an adult woman

obviously i can't say you're a pedophile because that's not the literal definition of it but you're very clearly have a predatory mindset judging from what you've just said. don't act shocked if she breaks up with you suddenly and cries on social media for attention lmfao

 

[isis_Bleach]

truth nuke

 

[Big Boss]

you're not looking for love at all you're just seeking to defile teenage girls because you feel so insecure if a woman that has slept with another man before, the 16 year old girl will obviously be attracted to an older guy because it's not uncommon for a woman to look up to a man who resembles an adult figure like her father and you're taking advantage of that

You’re making a lot of psychological assumptions about why people are attracted to each other. By that logic is being physically attractive 'predatory' because it causes attraction? Is someone 'taking advantage' because they have natural traits others like?

also most 16 year olds can't compete with a 22 year old man

Thats just how attraction works, there are always power dynamics and differences in life experience, whether its age, looks, or social status. That is a natural part of dating, not a moral failing. You're trying to dismiss normal attraction because it doesn't fit your personal set of rules.

in this thread all i've seen you say is "why why why why why" and i'm telling you why right now you're effectively grooming her before she has the maturity of an adult woman

obviously i can't say you're a pedophile because that's not the literal definition of it but you're very clearly have a predatory mindset judging from what you've just said. don't act shocked if she breaks up with you suddenly and cries on social media for attention lmfao

Your whole argument is a collection of projections based on a single quote I made, completely ignoring the reality of our lives. We built a relationship over months, we are involving our families and we are planning a long term future/marriage.

You are choosing to push a predatory narrative because it’s easier than acknowledging that two people can make independent consensual choices that dont fit your personal worldview. Im not interested in defending my life to someone who prioritizes internet outrage over facts

 

[pleasevanity]

You’re making a lot of psychological assumptions about why people are attracted to each other. By that logic is being physically attractive 'predatory' because it causes attraction? Is someone 'taking advantage' because they have natural traits others like?

your analogy doesn't make any sense, the key difference is the age gaps and i've already attempted to emphasise the cognitive and social maturity differences between a 16 year old girl and a 22 year old man. to conflate a physically attractive male and an adolescent female being naturally inclined (and somewhat pushed by their own friendgroups) to like an older man as the same is strange.

i won't act like she doesn't have a choice of her own but i'd argue she doesn't have the mental strength to engage with a fully grown adult with his own responsibilities, responsibly

a 16 year old girl can easily be groomed in such a situation because of.. yes.. power dynamics and dependancies

Thats just how attraction works, there are always power dynamics and differences in life experience, whether its age, looks, or social status. That is a natural part of dating, not a moral failing. You're trying to dismiss normal attraction because it doesn't fit your personal set of rules.

Your whole argument is a collection of projections based on a single quote I made, completely ignoring the reality of our lives. We built a relationship over months, we are involving our families and we are planning a long term future/marriage.

why do you conflate looks and social status with age? there is a moral spectrum with age but there is none with looks or social status, it's not as if anyone is being "groomed" or "coerced" if they are a fully grown adult that happens to be uglier or of lower class lmfao what are you even attempting to say?

i don't care about your life and how you relationship is, i'm telling you how i think and why others feel express disapproval about it

if you are happy with your relationship by all means go do whatever the fuck you want to do it's not my life, but to state that it is a sign of lower intelligence to express disapproval is just disgusting

You are choosing to push a predatory narrative because it’s easier than acknowledging that two people can make independent consensual choices that dont fit your personal worldview.

it is not a predatory narrative because it is innately predatory

Im not interested in defending my life to someone who prioritizes internet outrage over facts

i really don't understand this statement

jfl at you if you think niggas will normalise a 6 year old age gap

 

[Big Boss]

your analogy doesn't make any sense, the key difference is the age gaps and i've already attempted to emphasise the cognitive and social maturity differences between a 16 year old girl and a 22 year old man. to conflate a physically attractive male and an adolescent female being naturally inclined (and somewhat pushed by their own friendgroups) to like an older man as the same is strange.

i won't act like she doesn't have a choice of her own but i'd argue she doesn't have the mental strength to engage with a fully grown adult with his own responsibilities, responsibly

a 16 year old girl can easily be groomed in such a situation because of.. yes.. power dynamics and dependancies

why do you conflate looks and social status with age? there is a moral spectrum with age but there is none with looks or social status, it's not as if anyone is being "groomed" or "coerced" if they are a fully grown adult that happens to be uglier or of lower class lmfao what are you even attempting to say?

i don't care about your life and how you relationship is, i'm telling you how i think and why others feel express disapproval about it

if you are happy with your relationship by all means go do whatever the fuck you want to do it's not my life, but to state that it is a sign of lower intelligence to express disapproval is just disgusting

it is not a predatory narrative because it is innately predatory

You’re shifting the argument from there is a risk of exploitation to “it is inherently predatory.”

Those are not the same claim.

I agree there can be maturity differences and power imbalances. What I disagree with is the idea that the existence of those differences automatically proves exploitation.
If something is inately predatory, then it would be predatory regardless of the behaviour of either person involved. At that point you’re not judging actions, you’re judging ages alone.

A power imbalance can increase the risk of manipulation but it does not prove manipulation occurred
You keep saying a 16 year old can be groomed more easily. I agree. But “can be groomed” and “is being groomed” are completely different statements.

You say the relationship is inherently predatory. What specific behaviour makes it predatory? Because so far you’ve only pointed back to the age gap itself.

If your position is simply that you personally think a 22 and 16 year old relationship is inappropriate, that’s a fair opinion. But that’s different from claiming exploitation as a fact.

 

[pleasevanity]

You’re shifting the argument from there is a risk of exploitation to “it is inherently predatory.”

Those are not the same claim.

well that is a big accusation but i don't agree, i thought it was inherently predatory the entire time the reason i was using probability phrases was because i wanted to emphasise how much more susceptible they are in a relationship like that and how much easier it is to get away with doing harmful things. the argument i was attempting to make in general is that you are taking advantage of her vulnerability for an older man with more maturity (whatever), and putting her in a situation where she is more likely to be taken advantage of

that was a mistake on my part

regardless can i really trust someone who goes for 16 year old girls because they are more likely to be a virgin?

I agree there can be maturity differences and power imbalances. What I disagree with is the idea that the existence of those differences automatically proves exploitation.
If something is inately predatory, then it would be predatory regardless of the behaviour of either person involved. At that point you’re not judging actions, you’re judging ages alone.

A power imbalance can increase the risk of manipulation but it does not prove manipulation occurred
You keep saying a 16 year old can be groomed more easily. I agree. But “can be groomed” and “is being groomed” are completely different statements.

You say the relationship is inherently predatory. What specific behaviour makes it predatory? Because so far you’ve only pointed back to the age gap itself.

If your position is simply that you personally think a 22 and 16 year old relationship is inappropriate, that’s a fair opinion. But that’s different from claiming exploitation as a fact.

I think it is innately predatory because it is seeking to take advantage of her vulnerability

i find it extremely hard to see where you're coming from here and i think i know why?

the thing that gets me is you claim something that is predatory must immediately mean anything obviously harmful but in reality anything predatory is just anything that takes advantage of a vulnerable person whether it be a child or adult.

Predatory describes actions or behaviors that seek to exploit, deceive, or harm others for personal advantage or profit. It implies taking advantage of vulnerability, where the target lacks a fair, free, and informed choice. The term appears across several distinct contexts.

You are doing exactly what the latter half of the definition is claiming

exploitation also refers to the act of taking advantage of someone for personal gain (her innocence/virginity that you seek i guess) which is exactly what you're doing

it's hard to prove anything really, but the maturity differences and power dynamics are precisely what makes it unethical to most and highlight how it is innately predatory, it's not right to take advantage of someone who doesn't really know much better

i know she's not an infant child but she's not a responsible adult either and that's the issue

 

[psychopathic]

your analogy doesn't make any sense, the key difference is the age gaps and i've already attempted to emphasise the cognitive and social maturity differences between a 16 year old girl and a 22 year old man. to conflate a physically attractive male and an adolescent female being naturally inclined (and somewhat pushed by their own friendgroups) to like an older man as the same is strange.

i won't act like she doesn't have a choice of her own but i'd argue she doesn't have the mental strength to engage with a fully grown adult with his own responsibilities, responsibly

a 16 year old girl can easily be groomed in such a situation because of.. yes.. power dynamics and dependancies

why do you conflate looks and social status with age? there is a moral spectrum with age but there is none with looks or social status, it's not as if anyone is being "groomed" or "coerced" if they are a fully grown adult that happens to be uglier or of lower class lmfao what are you even attempting to say?

i don't care about your life and how you relationship is, i'm telling you how i think and why others feel express disapproval about it

if you are happy with your relationship by all means go do whatever the fuck you want to do it's not my life, but to state that it is a sign of lower intelligence to express disapproval is just disgusting

it is not a predatory narrative because it is innately predatory

i really don't understand this statement

jfl at you if you think niggas will normalise a 6 year old age gap

well that is a big accusation but i don't agree, i thought it was inherently predatory the entire time the reason i was using probability phrases was because i wanted to emphasise how much more susceptible they are in a relationship like that and how much easier it is to get away with doing harmful things. the argument i was attempting to make in general is that you are taking advantage of her vulnerability for an older man with more maturity (whatever), and putting her in a situation where she is more likely to be taken advantage of

that was a mistake on my part

regardless can i really trust someone who goes for 16 year old girls because they are more likely to be a virgin?

I think it is innately predatory because it is seeking to take advantage of her vulnerability

i find it extremely hard to see where you're coming from here and i think i know why?

the thing that gets me is you claim something that is predatory must immediately mean anything obviously harmful but in reality anything predatory is just anything that takes advantage of a vulnerable person whether it be a child or so.

You are doing exactly what the latter half of the definition is claiming

exploitation also refers to the act of taking advantage of someone for personal gain (her innocence/virginity that you seek i guess) which is exactly what you're doing

it's hard to prove anything really, but the maturity differences and power dynamics are precisely what makes it unethical to most and highlight how it is innately predatory, it's not right to take advantage of someone who doesn't really know much better

i know she's not an infant child but she's not a responsible adult either and that's the issue

Just shut the fuck up nigga it's so cringe

 

[pleasevanity]

Just shut the fuck up nigga it's so cringe

you're my son

rent free go shoot yourself in the head maybe you'll find me in there pussy bitch

 

[EmperorVon]

“Jesus is the way, the truth and the life”. Cuckstians treating the internet like their congregation to preach their faggotry.

 

[psychopathic]

you're my son

rent free go shoot yourself in the head maybe you'll find me in there pussy bitch

Idk doesn't work when you try to do it cuz everyone can see ur the one who's obsessed with me not the other way around

 

[pleasevanity]

Idk doesn't work when you try to do it cuz everyone can see ur the one who's obsessed with me not the other way around

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[Big Boss]

well that is a big accusation but i don't agree, i thought it was inherently predatory the entire time the reason i was using probability phrases was because i wanted to emphasise how much more susceptible they are in a relationship like that and how much easier it is to get away with doing harmful things. the argument i was attempting to make in general is that you are taking advantage of her vulnerability for an older man with more maturity (whatever), and putting her in a situation where she is more likely to be taken advantage of

that was a mistake on my part

regardless can i really trust someone who goes for 16 year old girls because they are more likely to be a virgin?

I think it is innately predatory because it is seeking to take advantage of her vulnerability

i find it extremely hard to see where you're coming from here and i think i know why?

the thing that gets me is you claim something that is predatory must immediately mean anything obviously harmful but in reality anything predatory is just anything that takes advantage of a vulnerable person whether it be a child or adult.

You are doing exactly what the latter half of the definition is claiming

exploitation also refers to the act of taking advantage of someone for personal gain (her innocence/virginity that you seek i guess) which is exactly what you're doing

it's hard to prove anything really, but the maturity differences and power dynamics are precisely what makes it unethical to most and highlight how it is innately predatory, it's not right to take advantage of someone who doesn't really know much better

i know she's not an infant child but she's not a responsible adult either and that's the issue

Then I think we’ve narrowed down the disagreement quite a bit.

You believe the relationship is inherently predatory because a 16 year old is more vulnerable and a 22 year old has more maturity and influence.

I agree that there is a greater potential for unhealthy dynamics than there would be between two people of the exact same age.

Where I disagree is the leap from “greater potential” to “inherently predatory.”
A relationship can create a risk of exploitation without exploitation actually occurring.

You keep defining predatory as taking advantage of vulnerability, but you haven’t actually demonstrated that vulnerability is being taken advantage of in my relationship. You’re inferring it from the age gap itself.

As for the virginity point, I think you’re reading far more into that than is justified. A preference for a partner with little or no sexual history is not the same thing as a desire to manipulate or control them. Those are completely different claims

Ironically, this wasnt even a case of me specifically seeking out younger girls. Before this relationship I only had experience dating women around my own age. I met someone younger, developed feelings naturally, and the relationship grew from there.

You’re free to think the age gap is inappropriate. What I object to is treating your moral judgment as proof of predatory intent. I respect you are the only one to at least engage logically or try to.

The reason i say its a sign of low IQ initially in my post is because most people do not engage intellectually, they attack with emotional arguments first, and that is a sign of low iq. I dont think its disgusting to say that.

 

[commander.is.ur.co]

Being a age cuck might just be the biggest sign of low iq.

Im 22 dating a 16 year old. Many age cucks have called me a pedophile with absolutely no logic behind it.

I’ve never seen someone logically debate me on this topic, just fall under emotional goyim defense mechanisms screaming “your a pedophile!!” Nigga pedophile by definition is someone attracted to pre pubercent features.

The reason its such a sign of low iq, is because anyone who thinks with their own brain, and not jewish propaganda, ends up being on the side that dating a 16 year old is morally okay. You will never see a age cuck go through a debate logically without it devolving into personal insults and emotional feminine rambling. And that is a sign of extremely low iq.

Look at this, whats the pattern you notice? Not a single good point brought up:

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The funny thing is, if you ever ask why its wrong to a age cuck, suddenly they go silent… They dont even try replying, because they simply know they are coping.

Holy Iqlets:
@slaviccartfiend @Lemur @Final Fantasy @DrRodger @YourLocalLMTN @mylonflyshigh (you might be the most retarded of them all) @kranerman23123 @Abusive

Holy free thinkers:
@Hess @dumb (ironic) @182ltn @pxe @LXR @SoundnVision @ihatereddit @vigor @Grilldaddy❤️

Never could agree more with @slaviccartfiend

 

[GoodLittleFoidBoy]

Being a age cuck might just be the biggest sign of low iq.

Im 22 dating a 16 year old. Many age cucks have called me a pedophile with absolutely no logic behind it.

I’ve never seen someone logically debate me on this topic, just fall under emotional goyim defense mechanisms screaming “your a pedophile!!” Nigga pedophile by definition is someone attracted to pre pubercent features.

The reason its such a sign of low iq, is because anyone who thinks with their own brain, and not jewish propaganda, ends up being on the side that dating a 16 year old is morally okay. You will never see a age cuck go through a debate logically without it devolving into personal insults and emotional feminine rambling. And that is a sign of extremely low iq.

Look at this, whats the pattern you notice? Not a single good point brought up:

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The funny thing is, if you ever ask why its wrong to a age cuck, suddenly they go silent… They dont even try replying, because they simply know they are coping.

Holy Iqlets:
@slaviccartfiend @Lemur @Final Fantasy @DrRodger @YourLocalLMTN @mylonflyshigh (you might be the most retarded of them all) @kranerman23123 @Abusive

Holy free thinkers:
@Hess @dumb (ironic) @182ltn @pxe @LXR @SoundnVision @ihatereddit @vigor @Grilldaddy❤️

dnr but SIXTEEN, SHE ISNT EVEN OUT OF SCHOOL YET

 

[Big Boss]

Never could agree more with @slaviccartfiend

Same. If you are 19 dating a 17 year old you are a fucking pedophile.

 

[ReccesedSlavic]

Being a age cuck might just be the biggest sign of low iq.

Im 22 dating a 16 year old. Many age cucks have called me a pedophile with absolutely no logic behind it.

I’ve never seen someone logically debate me on this topic, just fall under emotional goyim defense mechanisms screaming “your a pedophile!!” Nigga pedophile by definition is someone attracted to pre pubercent features.

The reason its such a sign of low iq, is because anyone who thinks with their own brain, and not jewish propaganda, ends up being on the side that dating a 16 year old is morally okay. You will never see a age cuck go through a debate logically without it devolving into personal insults and emotional feminine rambling. And that is a sign of extremely low iq.

Look at this, whats the pattern you notice? Not a single good point brought up:

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The funny thing is, if you ever ask why its wrong to a age cuck, suddenly they go silent… They dont even try replying, because they simply know they are coping.

Holy Iqlets:
@slaviccartfiend @Lemur @Final Fantasy @DrRodger @YourLocalLMTN @mylonflyshigh (you might be the most retarded of them all) @kranerman23123 @Abusive

Holy free thinkers:
@Hess @dumb (ironic) @182ltn @pxe @LXR @SoundnVision @ihatereddit @vigor @Grilldaddy❤️

low iq trait trying to justify dating a 16 year old

 

[1966Ford]

Ur definitely an ephebophile

 

[commander.is.ur.co]

Same. If you are 19 dating a 17 year old you are a fucking pedophile.

Nah bro, 2 year age gap at this age is chill, what’s not chill is being 22 and dating a 16yo

 

[Big Boss]

low iq trait trying to justify dating a 16 year old

Low iq trait: not explaining ur point

 

[Big Boss]

Nah bro, 2 year age gap at this age is chill, what’s not chill is being 22 and dating a 16yo

Why

 

[ReccesedSlavic]

Low iq trait: not explaining ur point

i guess bro i guess 16 year old girls are so naive practically children in terms of intelligence

 

[commander.is.ur.co]

Why

Cause you are a fucking adult taking advantage of an emotionally under developed teen. At your age you shouldn’t go lower than 18

 

[ihatereddit]

water

 

[Big Boss]

i guess bro i guess 16 year old girls are so naive practically children in terms of intelligence

Cause you are a fucking adult taking advantage of an emotionally under developed teen. At your age you shouldn’t go lower than 18

If your position is that 16 year olds are “practically children,” then you need to be consistent about what that actually means in practice.

What exactly is the rule here? Is it that any 22 year old dating a 16 year old is automatically exploiting them regardless of behaviour, communication, or context?

Or is it that certain behaviours make it exploitative?

Because right now you’re treating a legal adult age threshold as if it automatically determines manipulation, which doesn’t actually address intent, behaviour, or consent dynamics.

If your argument is just “I personally feel it’s inappropriate,” that’s fine as an opinion. But calling it exploitation or taking advantage requires more than just pointing at an age gap and assuming motive from it.

 

[PepsAreNatty]

Being a age cuck might just be the biggest sign of low iq.

Im 22 dating a 16 year old. Many age cucks have called me a pedophile with absolutely no logic behind it.

I’ve never seen someone logically debate me on this topic, just fall under emotional goyim defense mechanisms screaming “your a pedophile!!” Nigga pedophile by definition is someone attracted to pre pubercent features.

The reason its such a sign of low iq, is because anyone who thinks with their own brain, and not jewish propaganda, ends up being on the side that dating a 16 year old is morally okay. You will never see a age cuck go through a debate logically without it devolving into personal insults and emotional feminine rambling. And that is a sign of extremely low iq.

Look at this, whats the pattern you notice? Not a single good point brought up:

Spoiler

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The funny thing is, if you ever ask why its wrong to a age cuck, suddenly they go silent… They dont even try replying, because they simply know they are coping.

Holy Iqlets:
@slaviccartfiend @Lemur @Final Fantasy @DrRodger @YourLocalLMTN @mylonflyshigh (you might be the most retarded of them all) @kranerman23123 @Abusive

Holy free thinkers:
@Hess @dumb (ironic) @182ltn @pxe @LXR @SoundnVision @ihatereddit @vigor @Grilldaddy❤️

If it’s legal it’s legal

 

[pleasevanity]

The reason i say its a sign of low IQ initially in my post is because most people do not engage intellectually, they attack with emotional arguments first, and that is a sign of low iq. I dont think its disgusting to say that.

makes sense

Then I think we’ve narrowed down the disagreement quite a bit.

You believe the relationship is inherently predatory because a 16 year old is more vulnerable and a 22 year old has more maturity and influence.

I agree that there is a greater potential for unhealthy dynamics than there would be between two people of the exact same age.

Where I disagree is the leap from “greater potential” to “inherently predatory.”
A relationship can create a risk of exploitation without exploitation actually occurring.

You keep defining predatory as taking advantage of vulnerability, but you haven’t actually demonstrated that vulnerability is being taken advantage of in my relationship. You’re inferring it from the age gap itself.

As for the virginity point, I think you’re reading far more into that than is justified. A preference for a partner with little or no sexual history is not the same thing as a desire to manipulate or control them. Those are completely different claims

Ironically, this wasnt even a case of me specifically seeking out younger girls. Before this relationship I only had experience dating women around my own age. I met someone younger, developed feelings naturally, and the relationship grew from there.

You’re free to think the age gap is inappropriate. What I object to is treating your moral judgment as proof of predatory intent. I respect you are the only one to at least engage logically or try to.

The reason i say its a sign of low IQ initially in my post is because most people do not engage intellectually, they attack with emotional arguments first, and that is a sign of low iq. I dont think its disgusting to say that.

i can't fight against your anecdotes and what you claim your relationship is like

i can't say anything with 100% certainty either because i'm aware that everybody is different and does different things

that is the annoying part of this discussion, the thing i do not want is for people to normalise relationships where a 16 year old and a 22 year old date because of that likelihood of abuse and exploitation. if there is a relationship that somebody seeks where they want to actually pursue younger girls because they are more innocent it is not out of the question to assume that they seek to use them for their own needs

it's just a grey area and it's the grooming factor that plays a big role in my argument

she might love you for you but does she really deserve to be with a man who took advantage of her when she was naive and couldn't find somebody better

 

[sanguine]

Never could agree more with @slaviccartfiend

he might be the worst user on here stfu

 

[commander.is.ur.co]

he might be the worst user on here stfu

Worst user cause he ain’t a pedo

 

[commander.is.ur.co]

If your position is that 16 year olds are “practically children,” then you need to be consistent about what that actually means in practice.

What exactly is the rule here? Is it that any 22 year old dating a 16 year old is automatically exploiting them regardless of behaviour, communication, or context?

Or is it that certain behaviours make it exploitative?

Because right now you’re treating a legal adult age threshold as if it automatically determines manipulation, which doesn’t actually address intent, behaviour, or consent dynamics.

If your argument is just “I personally feel it’s inappropriate,” that’s fine as an opinion. But calling it exploitation or taking advantage requires more than just pointing at an age gap and assuming motive from it.

 

[sanguine]

Worst user cause he ain’t a pedo

idk i didn’t read the post much hes just a fagoot. but no dating a 16 year old doesn’t make you a pedo

 

[commander.is.ur.co]

idk i didn’t read the post much hes just a fagoot. but no dating a 16 year old doesn’t make you a pedo

This nigga is 22 bro, that’s weird af and not tolerated in most countries except in the shit hole he lives cause they adapted the law to all the disgusting Muslim immigrants

 

[sanguine]

This nigga is 22 bro, that’s weird af and not tolerated in most countries except in the shit hole he lives cause they adapted the law to all the disgusting Muslim immigrants

well we can agree to shit on goatfuckers

 

[commander.is.ur.co]

well we can agree to shit on goatfuckers

Fr bro, I am not here tryna create ops or anything bro, hope we are chill

 

[Big Boss]

makes sense

i can't fight against your anecdotes and what you claim your relationship is like

i can't say anything with 100% certainty either because i'm aware that everybody is different and does different things

that is the annoying part of this discussion, the thing i do not want is for people to normalise relationships where a 16 year old and a 22 year old date because of that likelihood of abuse and exploitation. if there is a relationship that somebody seeks where they want to actually pursue younger girls because they are more innocent it is not out of the question to assume that they seek to use them for their own needs

it's just a grey area and it's the grooming factor that plays a big role in my argument

she might love you for you but does she really deserve to be with a man who took advantage of her when she was naive and couldn't find somebody better

I understand your concern about normalising situations where exploitation can happen, and I agree that risk and power imbalance are real things worth taking seriously.

Where I don’t agree is the assumption you’re making about intent and choice.

You’re treating attraction to youth or inexperience as evidence of exploitation, and then working backwards from that to conclude someone “must be taking advantage.” That’s the part I don’t think follows logically.

People can be drawn to different traits for a lot of reasons, and that doesn’t automatically translate into coercion or manipulation. The presence of vulnerability doesn’t prove someone is being exploited the same way the presence of difference doesnt automatically imply harm.

On the second point, I also dont agree with the idea that a younger person in a consensual relationship “doesn’t deserve it” because of presumed naivety. That removes agency from them entirely and replaces it with a judgement about what YOU think they are capable of choosing.

 

[Big Boss]

This nigga is 22 bro, that’s weird af and not tolerated in most countries except in the shit hole he lives cause they adapted the law to all the disgusting Muslim immigrants

Great argument just great. You were the exact kind of person i was talking about initially in the post btw if you re read it.

Do you not realise the age of consent literally used to be lower in the UK and europe they actually increased it from 11-12 around the beginning of the 20th century. If you want to look down on people look at your own culture/history first. Im british yet i understand this. And another low iq trait youve shown is just being racist and blaming any problem on “muslim immigrants”. Your cooked mate

 

[commander.is.ur.co]

Great argument just great. You were the exact kind of person i was talking about initially in the post btw if you re read it.

Do you not realise the age of consent literally used to be lower in the UK and europe they actually increased it from 11-12 around the beginning of the 20th century. If you want to look down on people look at your own culture/history first. Im british yet i understand this. And another low iq trait youve shown is just being racist and blaming any problem on “muslim immigrants”. Your cooked mate

Yes bro you just a brainwashed iqlet who can’t pull people of his age group so you hunt down stupid lil girls

 

[Big Boss]

Yes bro you just a brainwashed iqlet who can’t pull people of his age group so you hunt down stupid lil girls

Yet again prove my initial post about how you age cucks cant engage in debate without getting emotional and reverting back to playground insults. You did not defend a single point btw. Does that not make you question yourself? Why am i getting defensive? Am i wrong? Why cant i logically prove him wrong?

Anyways im htn+ 1.9swr and have been with multiple girls my age since i was 15 till now, my 16 yr old gf is my first 1+ year younger gf of my life. im guessing you’ll say larp but theres no point in me saying any of this if you wont believe it

 

[commander.is.ur.co]

Yet again prove my initial post about how you age cucks cant engage in debate without getting emotional and reverting back to playground insults. You did not defend a single point btw. Does that not make you question yourself? Why am i getting defensive? Am i wrong? Why cant i logically prove him wrong?

Anyways im htn+ 1.9swr and have been with multiple girls my age since i was 15 till now, my 16 yr old gf is my first 1+ year younger gf of my life. im guessing you’ll say larp but theres no point in me saying any of this if you wont believe it

Idk bro ig some of yall uk people are mentally impaired. As I always say, wish you the best with your relationship

 

[pleasevanity]

You’re treating attraction to youth or inexperience as evidence of exploitation, and then working backwards from that to conclude someone “must be taking advantage.” That’s the part I don’t think follows logically..

i don't think i was making that argument probably i wasn't making my statements very clear

i will try to say this in a way that makes sense

to be a predator is to seek out a relationship with somebody that is more vulnerable, i think we were able to establish that there is a greater risk and thus a higher sense of susceptibility to harm in a relationship like yours. for someone to actively pursue that whilst knowing that that person is vulnerable is what makes somebody a predator, and thus, predatory

the 16 year old is "prey"

People can be drawn to different traits for a lot of reasons, and that doesn’t automatically translate into coercion or manipulation. The presence of vulnerability doesn’t prove someone is being exploited the same way the presence of difference doesnt automatically imply harm.

On the second point, I also dont agree with the idea that a younger person in a consensual relationship “doesn’t deserve it” because of presumed naivety. That removes agency from them entirely and replaces it with a judgement about what YOU think they are capable of choosing.

the standard being "exploitation" is tricky because i have my own idea of what exploitation can be and it would be difficult to prove that your relationship is one of those if you keep insisting that it is a perfectly normal relationship where the two of you are happy

what i can say is that she isn't somebody who is ready to be making her own decisions with a grown adult,

because at the very least there is an element of grooming involved

also the naivety is not just presumed she is literally a minor

 

[pleasevanity]

Ur definitely an ephebophile

i don't think terms like these are even real

 

[1966Ford]

i don't think terms like these are even real

By the law it is

 

[1966Ford]

i don't think i was making that argument probably i wasn't making my statements very clear

i will try to say this in a way that makes sense

to be a predator is to seek out a relationship with somebody that is more vulnerable, i think we were able to establish that there is a greater risk and thus a higher sense of susceptibility to harm in a relationship like yours. for someone to actively pursue that whilst knowing that that person is vulnerable is what makes somebody a predator, and thus, predatory

the 16 year old is "prey"

the standard being "exploitation" is tricky because i have my own idea of what exploitation can be and it would be difficult to prove that your relationship is one of those if you keep insisting that it is a perfectly normal relationship where the two of you are happy

what i can say is that she isn't somebody who is ready to be making her own decisions with a grown adult,

because at the very least there is an element of grooming involved

also the naivety is not just presumed she is literally a minor

So ur not sadistic then?

 

[Big Boss]

i don't think i was making that argument probably i wasn't making my statements very clear

i will try to say this in a way that makes sense

to be a predator is to seek out a relationship with somebody that is more vulnerable, i think we were able to establish that there is a greater risk and thus a higher sense of susceptibility to harm in a relationship like yours. for someone to actively pursue that whilst knowing that that person is vulnerable is what makes somebody a predator, and thus, predatory

the 16 year old is "prey"

the standard being "exploitation" is tricky because i have my own idea of what exploitation can be and it would be difficult to prove that your relationship is one of those if you keep insisting that it is a perfectly normal relationship where the two of you are happy

what i can say is that she isn't somebody who is ready to be making her own decisions with a grown adult,

because at the very least there is an element of grooming involved

also the naivety is not just presumed she is literally a minor

I get what you mean, but I don’t agree with the jump from “someone is more vulnerable” to “therefore the person choosing them is a predator.

By that logic, any relationship with an imbalance in experience, confidence, or life stage becomes predatory just because both people are aware of the difference.

Awareness of a difference doesn’t automatically mean the goal is to exploit it. You’re assuming intent from structure alone.

I agree there’s higher risk in age gap dynamics, but risk doesn’t equal exploitation by default.

 

[Big Boss]

i don't think terms like these are even real

Why not

By the law it is

And not only that, its a well documented behaviour more common than pedophillia.