Is this was worth off 32k by Pagnoni and Giant?

Some of us just have an eye for detail, a sense of aesthetics, and standards. Others of us went to giant.
I have no idea what is abnormal about my skull, what is the alternative to Giant? Do you have one? There certainly weren't any obvious ones back in 2022, Pagnoni's designer gave me some minecraft implant design:

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Look at the date my man

I was young and took what people said on here to heart. Yes cantho is still indicated, rhino isn't I have a very nice nose.
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Your front profile would definitely benefit a bit from a rhino
 
This shit looks fucking ridiculous, okay im done with this forum for the while

I've realised there is nothing to gain from being here

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Cantho also, went more autistic with it and put in tan skin & darker eyebrows

Looks better in concept, btw you have a massive chin now which isn't great harmony wise
 
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AI slop, looks like an alien
You can cope all you want but you look like shit currently

Btw all that trimax has managed to do is make your chin massive and fuck your harmony, didn't really realize too much until running a couple morphs

You could consider chin reduction aswell, mostly just height, but not too much
 
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You can cope all you want but you look like shit currently

Btw all that trimax has managed to do is make your chin massive and fuck your harmony, didn't really realize too much until running a couple morphs

You could consider chin reduction aswell, mostly just height, but not too much
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cantho + eyebrow dye.

I am not getting a chin reduction it looks good, i like it how it is. I'm not a twink
 
*Half this forum says before putting the fork down and the weights up*
You don't need to go the gym to loose weight. Just stop eating so much. Here's a blackpill for you; not only is metabolism genetic, but so is appetite. So saying just stop eating so much doesn't help. It really is hard for some guys. More so if they choose food to cope with being sub5.
 
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Of course you won't become a chad through surgery... do people on here actually think this happens?
It has happened. But the thing is that it's super dependent on the shape of the maxilla and how deficient some guys bones are.

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This guy for example had great amounts of maxilla length to enchadify. This guy went from an unimpressive jawline and terrible personality to straight up Chadlite. He got cheekbone implants and jaw angle custom implants. The big bone of his face was already good, so there was a foundation for implants to take him to Chad teir. Surgery can amplify the foundations of your face, but the foundations are the most important thing.
 
It has happened. But the thing is that it's super dependent on the shape of the maxilla and how deficient some guys bones are.

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This guy for example had great amounts of maxilla length to enchadify. This guy went from an unimpressive jawline and terrible personality to straight up Chadlite. He got cheekbone implants and jaw angle custom implants. The big bone of his face was already good, so there was a foundation for implants to take him to Chad teir. Surgery can amplify the foundations of your face, but the foundations are the most important thing.
maaaaan insane wtf, all he needs now is to fix his eye area + hairline lowering and he's genuinely won
 
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This shit looks fucking ridiculous, okay im done with this forum for the while

I've realised there is nothing to gain from being here

cya
There is no escaping this place :)
 
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cantho + eyebrow dye.

I am not getting a chin reduction it looks good, i like it how it is. I'm not a twink
What's the real reason for not getting a rhino? I mean your nose right now is a falio, no getting around that. But I'd understand more if you're worried about the nose job getting botched, it's one of the surgeries with the most revisions.

Cantho, eyebrow dye, tan skin, and I do think you need chin reduction. It's not about being a twink, it's about not being an ogre.
 
It has happened. But the thing is that it's super dependent on the shape of the maxilla and how deficient some guys bones are.

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This guy for example had great amounts of maxilla length to enchadify. This guy went from an unimpressive jawline and terrible personality to straight up Chadlite. He got cheekbone implants and jaw angle custom implants. The big bone of his face was already good, so there was a foundation for implants to take him to Chad teir. Surgery can amplify the foundations of your face, but the foundations are the most important thing.
The SFS Trimax cases probably are the largest ascensions, not referring to the photo you've provided but I think it's worth mentioning.
 
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holy incel to incel transformation
 
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You don't need to go the gym to loose weight. Just stop eating so much. Here's a blackpill for you; not only is metabolism genetic, but so is appetite. So saying just stop eating so much doesn't help. It really is hard for some guys. More so if they choose food to cope with being sub5.
are you clinically retarded

Here's a black pill for you; it's called comprehension

"He can afford a 32 thousand dollar surgery but not a GLP for his 30% body fat, maybe 40?"
 
This was back in 2022-2023 before GLPs were well known.

Now I have an infinite supply of reta and i'm good
bullshit nigga couldve ate less

lets see u now
 
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The pictures of the after 8 months are actually pretty good. He doesn't look bad at all. But in the after 3 years you can clearly see he relapsed and lost most of what he had gained. That's because surgery restores some function briefly, and that looks good, but ultimately once you are left to your own habits, because those haven't changed you are gonna relapse, it's inevitable. With surgery you haven't fixed the underlying issue but just hid it for a couple months.
Take this mewing shit elsewhere. Relapse isn't even whatever you think it is.
 
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there was obviously huge change sadly not aa super super good kind

it really is over for us ALL
Really not sure what you expect, the change is very good. Did I go from ugly to being model material, no.

It is a good bimax outcome, if you don't think so don't pursue bimax as the result will perhaps not be as good as mine, and you are disappointed with mine
 
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Really not sure what you expect, the change is very good. Did I go from ugly to being model material, no.

It is a good bimax outcome, if you don't think so don't pursue bimax as the result will perhaps not be as good as mine, and you are disappointed with mine
It isn’t a good one nor a shit one, and most people won’t get 5mm of advancement like u so will probably be better pal
 
It isn’t a good one nor a shit one, and most people won’t get 5mm of advancement like u so will probably be better pal
It is good, if you think otherwise you have a warped understanding of what bimax will give you. You won't be getting a lefort 2 and becoming jordan barrett, sorry.

If I was advanced anymore I would look dogmaxxed:
 

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People will on one hand say I wasn't recessed and then say that 5mm is too little for me lol
 
It is good, if you think otherwise you have a warped understanding of what bimax will give you. You won't be getting a lefort 2 and becoming jordan barrett, sorry.

If I was advanced anymore I would look dogmaxxed:
I’ve had bimax so Ik what the limits are dw, and I agree it isn’t a bad result but considering how 3/4 of the forum couldn’t even tell the difference of ur bimax at first u can’t particularly say it was a good result even though I agree it wasn’t bad
 
I’ve had bimax so Ik what the limits are dw, and I agree it isn’t a bad result but considering how 3/4 of the forum couldn’t even tell the difference of ur bimax at first u can’t particularly say it was a good result even though I agree it wasn’t bad
3/4 of this forum is brain damaged from smashing their head with hammers
 
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there is clearly no difference, I am the same bodyweight in both btw so don't even go there

I feel like you guys just look at the after pics and never compare to how i look before, and because the afters don't meet your expectation of what 32k should get you you all just comment NO DIFFERENCE LUL
Proves my point further. Very underwhelming result. Weight loss & tilting your head less at a 90 degree angle (your other eyebrow is visible in the top photos, whilst they aren't in the bottom ones)

I don't know why you keep trying to prove it to me. You yourself are happy with it, and you weren't dogmaxxed. I don't really care like that, technically your jaws are more advanced now even if I find the result underwhelming. It's 3 years ago at this point?
 
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Proves my point further. Very underwhelming result. Weight loss & tilting your head less at a 90 degree angle (your other eyebrow is visible in the top photos, whilst they aren't in the bottom ones)

I don't know why you keep trying to prove it to me. You yourself are happy with it, and you weren't dogmaxxed. I don't really care like that, technically your jaws are more advanced now even if I find the result underwhelming. It's 3 years ago at this point?
Yeah true, I don't know why I try and prove it to anyone, kind of pointless and aimless. Just wasting my own time atp
 
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Yeah true, I don't know why I try and prove it to anyone, kind of pointless and aimless. Just wasting my own time atp
Just finally get Cantho, darken your eyebrows, get cleaner stubble, get tan skin, and you'll be better off. I'd understand the decision to not get Rhino because it's not like your nose is awful right now, it's easy to get botched with Rhino out of any surgery
 
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I am convinced hard tissue surgery is overrated in this community. My ascension was 10x better just doing soft tissue surgery at a fraction of the cost.
 
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Take this mewing shit elsewhere. Relapse isn't even whatever you think it is.
And what is it then ? What I mean by relapse is getting closer to your starting point. And that's clearly what happened here and what happens with most surgery cases. Enlighten me if you think I'm wrong. Explain what relapse is.
 
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It has happened. But the thing is that it's super dependent on the shape of the maxilla and how deficient some guys bones are.

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This guy for example had great amounts of maxilla length to enchadify. This guy went from an unimpressive jawline and terrible personality to straight up Chadlite. He got cheekbone implants and jaw angle custom implants. The big bone of his face was already good, so there was a foundation for implants to take him to Chad teir. Surgery can amplify the foundations of your face, but the foundations are the most important thing.
You genuinely think this guy is chadlite ?? Oh man.
 
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@zemult what is that jfl for ?
 
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Because you are objectively wrong, there is no relapse. You are schizoid
It takes one look to be able to tell your immediately after results were much better than the current ones. And you were even at a higher bf then
 
Because you are objectively wrong, there is no relapse. You are schizoid
Right clearly looks better. The maxilla is visibly more projected. It almost look like you have a slight underbite in the left picture. I'm not saying you look bad now or that you look like your before pictures, but there is clearly been a downgrade.

Edit: Even from this 3/4 angle you can tell the mandible is also much more shifted towards one side in the left picture

@zemult

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Right clearly looks better. The maxilla is visibly more projected. It almost look like you have a slight underbite in the left picture. I'm not saying you look bad now or that you look like your before pictures, but there is clearly been a downgrade.

Edit: Even from this 3/4 angle you can tell the mandible is also much more shifted towards one side in the left picture

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I literally can't with you guys :ROFLMAO:

Different angle, bodyfat, lighting. I literally cannot see a difference between the two aside from that
 

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