is training chest, back, delts 4x a week too much

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chest back delta 4x a week for 1 hour each time too much or will it lead to optimal growth?
 
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even if you did steroids and ate 10k cals a day
 
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too little. i do 8 times a week
 
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Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket. I myself, I train chest, back, delts at least twice a day.
Once in the morning, right after I fap. And then once right after five-o'clock tea.
 
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chest back delta 4x a week for 1 hour each time too much or will it lead to optimal growth?
Yes too much, look at the guide thread I posted on gymmaxxing, I’d train large muscle groups like chest and back 2x a week, 3 maximum. Delts, especially side and rear delts, are smaller muscles that need less recovery time. If you’re not doing too much volume I could justify training them 4x weekly for a few weeks at the end of a training block, but not all the time.
 
Yes too much, look at the guide thread I posted on gymmaxxing, I’d train large muscle groups like chest and back 2x a week, 3 maximum. Delts, especially side and rear delts, are smaller muscles that need less recovery time. If you’re not doing too much volume I could justify training them 4x weekly for a few weeks at the end of a training block, but not all the time.
does 3x provide a benefit over 2x?
 
does 3x provide a benefit over 2x?
If you spread your volume out properly, you can increase your frequency to 3x but a lot of things need to happen first. You should have trained 2x until progress slows down, then go to 3x adding 2-4 sets per week, with at least 3-4 sets for chest & back on days you train them. You also need to be in a large calorie surplus and sleeping 8-9 hours per night or you wont recover properly.
 
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Retarded.

Twice at most.

You don't lift properly otherwise you couldn't hit the same group muscles more than twice per week.
 
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