
madma
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arabs are 25 years old flexing their max town hall 14 to niggas in their college class. arab men love love love perms and think girls care about them having the newest and latest iphones 


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They believe that jesus did come back to life and consider him a prophet but think the actual messiah is some arab nigga who rapes kids lol, So the guy who walks on water and is a professional aura farmer and says he is the son of god isnt the messiah? imagine starving yourself for weeks once a year just cuzwhat the fuck are you even talking about
? muslims believe jesus is the messiahThey believe that jesus did come back to life and consider him a prophet but think the actual messiah is some
yo whats your clash royale deck? muslims believe jesus is the messiah
e-giant valk ewiz scarmy tesla zap i forgot the restyo whats your clash royale deck
have fun walking around a giant black brick aka Kevin the Cube three times in the name of Allah.islam is the most logical religion.
You say: “We cannot comprehend the Trinity because it is a divine matter unique to God, and the human mind cannot grasp the divine.” right?have fun walking around a giant black brick aka Kevin the Cube three times in the name of Allah.
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the guy i tagged will explain.You say: “We cannot comprehend the Trinity because it is a divine matter unique to God, and the human mind cannot grasp the divine.” right?
Then why not say that your god is both existent and non-existent at the same time since that too is a "divine trait" beyond human comprehension?![]()
What are you even yapping about? People hate Islam because it grows, instead of fixing their own religion they try to find a scapegoat.arabs are 25 years old flexing their max town hall 14 to niggas in their college class. arab men love love love perms and think girls care about them having the newest and latest iphones![]()
Illogical*islam is the most logical religion.
You literally cannot comprehend your filthy double armed one shin god….You say: “We cannot comprehend the Trinity because it is a divine matter unique to God, and the human mind cannot grasp the divine.” right?
Then why not say that your god is both existent and non-existent at the same time since that too is a "divine trait" beyond human comprehension?![]()
you can't answer right?You literally cannot comprehend your filthy double armed one shin god….
Your god is a bitch who is such a faggot he cannot even enter into creation, your god literally is unknowable because he is comepley dissimilar to creation in every way as stated by your gay Tanzih metaphysics.
If Allahs act is synonymous with his effect then the effect is not related to the act thefore the effect isn’t even caused by the act and then you have no reason to logically infer that effects come from Allah in any way (this is if your an Ash’ari, Salafi or Maturidi Aqeedah)
Thefore you can know nothing about your god even your Quran cannot be the words of your god as that implies an simlitude how does the Quran in anyway relate and reference an complete transcendent unknowable deity that has no simlitude to the created order for created beings such as US TO UNDERSTAND, that would go against tanzih
This is why Islam like Roman Catholicism due to ADS is forced into Classical foundstinalism which leads to Reductio Ad Abdusrdum and thus epistemic agnosticism if your not participating in gods divine life you cannot explain/Justify why everything comes from him
you're god literally got killed and you still saying thatYour god is a bitch who is such a faggot he cannot even enter into creation, your god literally is unknowable because he is comepley dissimilar to creation in every way as stated by your gay Tanzih metaphysics.
Your god is a faggot slave who contradicts himself who can’t even live up to his own fucking criterionyou're god literally got killed and you still saying that![]()
imcrying dude wtf are u onarabs are 25 years old flexing their max town hall 14 to niggas in their college class. arab men love love love perms and think girls care about them having the newest and latest iphones![]()
ok. answer my question firstYour god is a faggot slave who contradicts himself who can’t even live up to his own fucking criterion
Sura 12:111 explained Quran is fully detailed and confirms previous revelation
Sura 3:7 states book doesn’t explain everything and ironically Mohammed got this when Christian pressed him on why Allah speaks in 3rd person and why the “Holy spirit” in the Quran gives and creates life and all your gay faggot prophet could say is “Allahu salem”/Billah Khaif”
Typical fucking Mohamededn learn your place you dog I’ll castrate you bitch
What question you brainlet?ok. answer my question first. there's no conflict here
just read the tafseer you stupid christcuck
You say: “We cannot comprehend the Trinity because it is a divine matter unique to God, and the human mind cannot grasp the divine.” right?What question you brainlet?
tafseer is for faggots like you. arabs know there language and how deep is it so they simplified it.Your own Qurans logic means it is a failed book. The fact one needs a Tasfir and Hadith proves this much when your gay book calls itself the best Hadith (statement) and states it explains all in full detail
Tasfir is for faggots like you that follow a book which fails by its own criteriontafseer is for faggots like you. arabs know there language and how deep is it so they simplified it.
Quran is in Arabic. i have no interest to discuss you anymore you're so stupid.Why are you speaking about Arabs you daft cunt be consistent nobody speaking about sandniggers here u stupid Mohammeden
Ofc you don’t because you got schooled. I raped you the moment @PsychoH called me in to destroy you, you ran like the cowardly Saracen you are.Quran is in Arabic. i have no interest to discuss you anymore you're so stupid.
just answer my question. and let the high iq users decide who's the retard hereOfc you don’t because you got schooled. I raped you the moment @PsychoH called me in to destroy you, you ran like the cowardly Saracen you are.
I fucked your gods metaphysics and using your own book showed it’s inadequacies
But I’m glad you acknowledge the Quran is only for the Arabs so thank you 43:3
What fucking question I have asked you this 2 times now stupid Mohammeden abdooooljust answer my question. and let the high iq users decide who's the retard here
i typed it 2 times you brainless fagWhat fucking question I have asked you this 2 times now stupid Mohammeden abdooool
You got raped and now your running like a headless chicken because your religion is fake and gay
Tanzih affirms that God is utterly unlike His creation, as stated in the Quran:You literally cannot comprehend your filthy double armed one shin god….
Your god is a bitch who is such a faggot he cannot even enter into creation, your god literally is unknowable because he is comepley dissimilar to creation in every way as stated by your gay Tanzih metaphysics.
If Allahs act is synonymous with his effect then the effect is not related to the act thefore the effect isn’t even caused by the act and then you have no reason to logically infer that effects come from Allah in any way (this is if your an Ash’ari, Salafi or Maturidi Aqeedah)
Thefore you can know nothing about your god even your Quran cannot be the words of your god as that implies an simlitude how does the Quran in anyway relate and reference an complete transcendent unknowable deity that has no simlitude to the created order for created beings such as US TO UNDERSTAND, that would go against tanzih
This is why Islam like Roman Catholicism due to ADS is forced into Classical foundstinalism which leads to Reductio Ad Abdusrdum and thus epistemic agnosticism if your not participating in gods divine life you cannot explain/Justify why everything comes from him
The same way your Mohammed says he cannot explain why Allah speaks in plural or why the Holy Spirit both creates and gives life in your religion.i typed it 2 times you brainless fag
You say: “We cannot comprehend the Trinity because it is a divine matter unique to God, and the human mind cannot grasp the divine.”
Then why not say that your god is both existent and non-existent at the same time since that too is a "divine trait" beyond human comprehension?
Dumbass if it’s comprehendable to humans then that implies an simlitude for everything in the material created realm relies on a simlitude to interact with and comprehend.Tanzih affirms that God is utterly unlike His creation, as stated in the Quran:
“There is nothing like unto Him” (Quran 42:11).
This transcendence does not imply that God is unknowable in every aspect. Through His names (asmaʾ) and attributes (sifat), God reveals aspects of Himself in ways that are comprehensible to humans, without compromising His absolute uniqueness.
Regarding causality, schools like the Ashʿarites developed the doctrine of occasionalism, which posits that God is the sole cause of all events. What we perceive as cause and effect in the natural world is, in reality, a consistent pattern established by God’s will. It’s God’s omnipotence and continuous involvement in creation, without denying the observable order in the universe.
Also even though the Quran uses human language, it is considered the literal word of God, revealed in a manner suited to human understanding. This does not compromise God’s transcendence, rather, it reflects His mercy and desire to guide humanity. The use of human language in revelation is a means for humans to comprehend divine guidance, not a limitation on God’s nature.
What you are arguing is that in Islam, people say God is so different from everything that exists, that we can’t really understand Him at all. But this is wrong, Islamic theology maintains that while God’s essence is beyond full human comprehension, He has provided sufficient knowledge through revelation and observable patterns in creation for humans to understand His will and attributes. The doctrines of tanzih and divine causality are not contradictions but frameworks that uphold God’s uniqueness while affirming His accessibility to human understanding.
في العربية صيغة الجمع تستخدم للتعظيم وليس فقط للجمع، الروح القدس ليست كيان الهي بل هو ملاك من الملائكة وينفذ أمر الله ولا يفعل شيء بإرادته وبقدرته إلا بأمر الله.The same way your Mohammed says he cannot explain why Allah speaks in plural or why the Holy Spirit both creates and gives life in your religion.
الطاقات هذا هراء، نحن نعرف الله بصفاته وأسمائه ولا ندخل في الكيفية وإن قلت انه يستلزم ان نتخيلها وان نجعله مثل الإنسان هل يدك مثل يد القط؟ انتهى النقاش في هذا الجانب ،لا تحاول إطباق فكرك عليّ.The human mind therefore can only reveal the hat God himself has already revealed to us but we cannot explain or dwell on the things the Lord hath not spoken about however as at basil in letter 234 states, we can know god by the energies that come down to us and it’s via his energies in which we interact with to know who god is without knowing WHAT god is.
نعم هذه سفسفطة، وأنت أيضاً تقول أن ثلاثة كيانات تجتمع في واحد وهذه سفسطة أيضاً لأنه اجتماع نقيضين ، سؤالي مقصده اذا كنت تستطيع قول ان الله ثلاثة اقانيم في واحد (وهذا تناقض واضح) وتفسره بأننا لا نستطيع فهم الإله لا شيء يمنعنا من قول أنه موجود و غير موجود في نفس الوقت لأنها تناقض نستطيع تفسيره بقول "لا يمكنك ان تفهم الإله".Nobody said gods both non existent and existent… that’s an oxymoron. God is existing constantly. For he is a constant universal abstract being nothing less
Dumbass if it’s comprehendable to humans then that implies an simlitude for everything in the material created realm relies on a simlitude to interact with and comprehend.
And if you bekive in occaisonakism which I already know because Mohammedens are dumb asf then once again for him
To will things in and out of creation every moment guess what that requiresyes buddy once again a SIMLITUDE for him to interact duuuuuuhhhhh
If the Quran is your gods word and your god is nothing like creation then you cannot comprehend his word in any way for his word being understandable to you means it no longer perfectly represents and references your god
the sifat implies a change in the Mohammeden being doesn’t it because for your gods attributes to not be actualised as Infinatum
It requires the will to not make it actualised but for it to be actualised implies something triggers the will which triggers the act which triggers the effect which implies an change on an ontological levelbut cos Your cult understands this they cope and say the effect is an accident of the act (collapsing the 2 together) leading to metaphysical absurdities as the act is GOD and the effect IS A CREATURES the two are not synonymous and therefore in the vain attempt to not fail at Divine simplicity Mohammedens have ended up with an incoherent illogical deity that Now has another problem infinite regress of what causes the will to will which plays out with different events taking place at different times in creation by your god.
Such a silly metaphysics you idiots have that you don’t even realise your classical foundationalism contradicts your belief in Occasionalism as well as your Tanzih the 3 are literally incomparable yet your stupid scholars couldn’t figure this out
It’s funny how Christians always claim that Muslims are the ones who lose it in a debate, but then they themselves often resort to ad hominem attacks and derogatory remarks, and you’ve been proving that right on the spot.
Anyway, your argument cuts the complex ideas of divine transcendence and occasionalism down to just material terms, wrongly suggesting that human understanding forces God to mirror His creation. Islamic thought, however, sees the Quran’s accessible language as a necessary concession to our limited cognitive and linguistic abilities, a way to communicate divine guidance without compromising God’s absolute otherness.
Moreover, saying that divine action must mimic material processes misses the point that God’s creative act reflects His eternal, unchanging, and uniquely singular nature. Occasionalism teaches that while every event is sustained by God’s will, this force doesn’t imply any composite change in him, it simply upholds the constant order established by His decree.
Easy to understand for those with common sense. But not many of those on this forum.
I’m just a rude cunt don’t use me as an rep for the avg Christian debater I’m hot blooded by default and easily impassioned judge me on me not my group for I do not represent how they do discordIt’s funny how Christians always claim that Muslims are the ones who lose it in a debate, but then they themselves often resort to ad hominem attacks and derogatory remarks, and you’ve been proving that right on the spot.
Anyway, your argument cuts the complex ideas of divine transcendence and occasionalism down to just material terms, wrongly suggesting that human understanding forces God to mirror His creation. Islamic thought, however, sees the Quran’s accessible language as a necessary concession to our limited cognitive and linguistic abilities, a way to communicate divine guidance without compromising God’s absolute otherness.
Moreover, saying that divine action must mimic material processes misses the point that God’s creative act reflects His eternal, unchanging, and uniquely singular nature. Occasionalism teaches that while every event is sustained by God’s will, this force doesn’t imply any composite change in him, it simply upholds the constant order established by His decree.
This is ludicrous what lunatic would say something so fucking stupid
that's exactly how you christians think. the same with the trinityThis is ludicrous what lunatic would say something so fucking stupid
Who tf are you to say who and what god is?I'm not that good in English so I'm going to talk in Arabic (translate it somewhere with ai)
In Arabic, the plural form is used to express respect and not just for the plural. The Holy Spirit is not a divine entity, but rather an angel among the angels who carries out God’s command and does nothing of his own will and power except by God’s command.
Energies are nonsense. We know God through His attributes and names, and we do not go into the how. If you say that it requires us to imagine them and make Him like a human, is your hand like a cat’s hand? The discussion is over on this side. Don’t try to impose your thinking on me.
Yes, this is sophistry. You also say that three entities come together in one, and this is also sophistry because it is the meeting of two opposites. My question is, if you can say that God is three hypostases in one (and this is a clear contradiction) and explain it by saying that we cannot understand God, then there is nothing preventing us from saying that He exists and does not exist at the same time because it is a contradiction that we can explain by saying “You cannot understand God.”
Please never EVER delete bro. We love you gang.@666PSL @vrilmaxxer @Chadeep @vevcred2_0 @PsychoH how many times have I murdered Mohammedens and their beliefs on this form now? I have actually lost count maybe @666PSL can remind me but I’m sure it’s in the 50s
These idiots sent their best against me and lost yet again look at the cowards run as I tear down shitslam
not a god anymore. if he is confined in a human body why would i worship himGod loves me enough to come down to us meanwhile your God is some impersonal sadist sitting above creation
AL BAGARA 97Now here’s some homework. Show me a SINGLE verse in the Quran that says the Holy Spirit is angel JIBREAL or that the Holy Spirit is an Angel
And what evidence do you have to say god cannot create a human body for himself to inhabit in?not a god anymore. if he is confined in a human body why would i worship himweak god. human = weakness
yeah i worship a God who isn't in the same level as me that's the point
YOUR GOD DOESN'T DESERVE TO WORSHIP HIM. HE ISN'T STRONG THEY PUT A CROSS IN HIS ASS.
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:Who tf are you to say who and what god is?
because that make him weak? it's obv actually. here's something with your logic: what evidence do you have to say your god can't let me fuck his asshole?And what evidence do you have to say god cannot create a human body for himself to inhabit in?