Islamic magic is so schizophrenic.

[Depresso]

Nice. You accepted my point. You can’t question if writings in the Quran are actually true. You just have to accept it. Asking questions to understand more about Islam was not what I said. It was very clearly about questioning Muhammad, his actions/teachings, and Allah’s alleged words.

Muslims are mostly foolish and barbaric, of course they are. They follow a medieval religion; the Quran is essentially, at least partly, a manual for conquering; they believe apostasy is punishable by death; having sex with children is fine but eating pork is haram; a woman cannot deny her husband sex and she’ll be cursed by the angels till morning; sperm is not “najis” according to Muhammad and he prayed with it on him (after fucking Aisha).

Imagine banning music, art, and questioning your morals and authenticity of the book you follow. It’s quite literally limiting human progression and civilisation.

None of this is really true. Are you hijacking the thread about magic?

 

[rawr]

All good! I’m aware Muslims are encouraged to seek knowledge in their “deen” as you say.

Yeah its fundamental

 

[emeraldglass]

I know it was “Read” and that doesn’t at all mean you can question Allah or Muhammad. Seeking knowledge Islamically about worshipping Allah is promoted by Muhammad, of course.

Muslims cannot question if Muhammad was a prophet or if Allah is even real. That is a fundamental problem. It has to, in a cult-like fashion, command its followers to follow blindly whatever it says.

You’re mixing things up. If someone wants to become a Muslim, they’re allowed to question and seek answers. Even after accepting Islam, questioning God’s power or rules doesn’t make someone a disbeliever, unless they become fully convinced of disbelief. It’s a logical process, just like with any belief system.

For example, if I believe the earth is flat but start researching the round earth theory, I remain a flat earther until I become fully convinced the earth is round. Once that happens, I’m a round earther. If I later change my mind again, I go back to being a flat earther. It’s a simple shift based on conviction.

 

[imontheloose]

None of this is really true. Are you hijacking the thread about magic?

Tell me how it’s false then. It is derailing it, sure, but welcome to looksmax.org, eh?

 

[Depresso]

Tell me how it’s false then. It is derailing it, sure, but welcome to looksmax.org, eh?

What are you then? A christian? An athiest?

 

[Qimr]

Superstition is believing in things that don’t really exist. Magic, on the other hand, is real.

superstition, by definition, is irrationally believing something whether it is true or not.

You were literally talking about Arab magic and mysticism in the original post, and now you’re saying my culture is ignorant of it?

Yes that's the point, arabian or semetic magic and it's origins are far deeper than what your mainstream culture gives it credit, that much was evident by you denying numerology, unless you want to shift the discussion to modern diluted practices then yeah fair enough.

What I said forms the core of magic, everything else is just a branch stemming from it.

if you're referring to magic in general then no this is wrong, occultist practices started way before your people walked the earth.
if again you're referring to the specific modern layman magic then sure but I have no interest in a banal topic.

In Islam, it’s not forbidden to learn about magic as long as it’s for protection against it. In fact, the average Muslim tends to know more about how magic works than most people. But once we know how to guard ourselves, there’s no need to dive deeper into something so corrupt, we only seek knowledge that benefits us.

this is again partially wrong, you don't ask a police officer for a meth recipe to avoid it, protection against magic in islam is done by reciting the quran. You're allowed to know the effects of magic but the how and why are forbidden, this loops back to the average muslim formulating an extremely childish idea about how magic works (and I know since I've talked to some irl).

 

[rawr]

You’re mixing things up. If someone wants to become a Muslim, they’re allowed to question and seek answers. Even after accepting Islam, questioning God’s power or rules doesn’t make someone a disbeliever, unless they become fully convinced of disbelief. It’s a logical process, just like with any belief system.

For example, if I believe the earth is flat but start researching the round earth theory, I remain a flat earther until I become fully convinced the earth is round. Once that happens, I’m a round earther. If I later change my mind again, I go back to being a flat earther. It’s a simple shift based on conviction.

thats very true

 

[imontheloose]

You’re mixing things up. If someone wants to become a Muslim, they’re allowed to question and seek answers. Even after accepting Islam, questioning God’s power or rules doesn’t make someone a disbeliever, unless they become fully convinced of disbelief. It’s a logical process, just like with any belief system.

For example, if I believe the earth is flat but start researching the round earth theory, I remain a flat earther until I become fully convinced the earth is round. Once that happens, I’m a round earther. If I later change my mind again, I go back to being a flat earther. It’s a simple shift based on conviction.

If someone wants to become a Muslim (a kafir currently) they’re obviously allowed to question Islam since they’re a kafir.

After accepting Islam, you cannot question Allah’s authority, his prohibitions, or Muhammad’s teachings and/or actions. It isn’t a logical process because Islam has no logic to it apart from the logic used to prove monotheism, one which itself has no evidence for. You have to convince yourself that Muhammad flew to heaven on a pony and split the moon in half and you can’t question if it happened or not. That is called blindly following. It’s what happens in a cult.

And your analogy of comparing religion to scientific advancement is a bit of a stretch granted the scientific method actually requires evidence thus conviction is judged differently. But for the sake of argument, I’ll just accept it. If you question if Earth is flat or not, but yourself say “I think Earth is round but I just want to know how that’s true because X, Y, Z.” And you’d be considered a round Earth follower. Or even with Christianity they are similar. But Islam is so strict it quite literally would be that “I think Allah is God but I just want to know how he can be true if he lets X, Y, Z.” would make you a kafir from scholarly consensus.

Again, you’re a Muslim so you’ll disagree with me to hell and back and this conversation won’t really get anywhere. So we will have to respectfully agree to disagree.

 

[Depresso]

@Qimr Is magic a religion? Are there worldviews and sects?

 

[imontheloose]

What are you then? A christian? An athiest?

I’m irreligious. By original definition, I’d be both agnostic and an atheist granted I’m not a theist and also can’t exactly know for certain as I need evidence (granted a lack of evidence is enough for rejection). But what does that have to do with my point?

Just answer the question I told you. This is completely irrelevant.

 

[emeraldglass]

Yes that's the point, arabian or semetic magic and it's origins are far deeper than what your mainstream culture gives it credit, that much was evident by you denying numerology, unless you want to shift the discussion to modern diluted practices then yeah fair enough.

Quran speaks about the origins of magic which is acknowledged even by many famous occultist scholars.

if you're referring to magic in general then no this is wrong, occultist practices started way before your people walked the earth.
if again you're referring to the specific modern layman magic then sure but I have no interest in a banal topic.

Same as above Quran speaks about the origins of magic in ancient Babylonia

this is again partially wrong, you don't ask a police officer for a meth recipe to avoid it, protection against magic in islam is done by reciting the quran. You're allowed to know the effects of magic but the how and why are forbidden, this loops back to the average muslim formulating an extremely childish idea about how magic works (and I know since I've talked to some irl).

The how’s are some types of magic are discussed in the Quran and some Hadith. You got Islamic scholars who research about all types of magic to combat it.

 

[Qimr]

@Qimr Is magic a religion?

define a "religion"
if by religion you mean a dogmatic ideological system that ties in ethics and authority then no
if by religion you a system of transcendental beliefs with general rules then maybe

 

[Depresso]

I’m irreligious. By original definition, I’d be both agnostic and an atheist granted I’m not a theist and also can’t exactly know for certain as I need evidence (granted a lack of evidence is enough for rejection). But what does that have to do with my point?

Just answer the question I told you. This is completely irrelevant.

Evrything.

Tell me how it’s false then. It is derailing it, sure, but welcome to looksmax.org, eh?

the Quran is essentially, at least partly, a manual for conquering

Where are you getting this claim from?

 

[Lucifer Rising]

What are you doing, OP?

The lips of wisdom are open exclusively to the ears of understanding.

The dozens of people reading this thread are not even initiates of the esoteric traditions. Do you want occultism to become mainstream like a TikTok trend?

@Qimr Is magic a religion? Are there worldviews and sects?

Magic is the power of manifesting your will. This can be accomplished through artistic, scientific, psychological, and supernatural practices. You got to have a vocation for it, though.

 

[Depresso]

define a "religion"
if by religion you mean a dogmatic ideological system that ties in ethics and authority then no
if by religion you a system of transcendental beliefs with general rules then maybe

I didn't mean ethics and authority. I meant the loose meaning of beliefs about how the world works.

 

[imontheloose]

Evrything.

You still haven’t replied to it. And it has absolutely nothing to do with it. Telling me how my claims about Islam are false requires you no context to my religious following.

Where are you getting this claim from?

Interesting you picked out the one thing which you eventually realised was an opinion. You wouldn’t question Muhammad and Allah, would you? You noticed what I said was true, didn’t you?

Nonetheless, I think the Quran is at the very least partly a manual for conquering, it tells you how to behave in war, briefly what is permitted and not, and in stages granted permission to fight specific people. Almost all Muslim worship requires you to use Arabic. It essentially is a tool to Arabise its followers, hence why the places it went generally began to include more and more Arabic in its language. For example, in Iran, the Muslims infamously would cut out the tongues of those who spoke Farsi instead of Arabic.

To deny Islam’s nature is to spread by the sword rather than polite and kind teaching whilst prohibiting even mere activism for enemy ideologies in the same civilisation is, for lack of a better term, retarded.

 

[Qimr]

Quran speaks about the origins of magic which is acknowledged even by many famous occultist scholars.

Quran hyper focuses on summoning magic, which is in itself diluted from biblical literature.
Islam is rarely brought up in occultist circles due to it's dogma, you guys had sufism for a while before you killed it and dragged its corpse through mud.

Same as above Quran speaks about the origins of magic in ancient Babylonia

humans practiced magic way before babylonian times

 

[Swarthy Knight]

They do. They believe it’s haram, yes, but they still believe in magic. To deny it would be to deny the Quran and they’d probably be castrated for not following blindly.

What's magical about the Quran

 

[Qimr]

I didn't mean ethics and authority. I meant the loose meaning of beliefs about how the world works.

by your definition every single idea is a religion by itself

 

[Depresso]

by your definition every single idea is a religion by itself

It's not a perfect definition but most ideas have the potential to become religions

 

[emeraldglass]

If someone wants to become a Muslim (a kafir currently) they’re obviously allowed to question Islam since they’re a kafir.

After accepting Islam, you cannot question Allah’s authority, his prohibitions, or Muhammad’s teachings and/or actions. It isn’t a logical process because Islam has no logic to it apart from the logic used to prove monotheism, one which itself has no evidence for.

What you say is a misunderstanding of Iman (Faith) and Doubt in Islam

Islam does not punish honest questioning, especially when it stems from a desire to seek truth. The Prophet said:

“We are more deserving of doubt than Ibrahim when he said, ‘My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead.’”
(Sahih al-Bukhari, 4537)

Allah did not rebuke Ibrahim for asking how resurrection works. Rather, He answered him directly. This is clear evidence that questioning to strengthen faith is not disbelief.

Yes, deliberate rejection of core tenets after conviction is kufr, but questioning before or even during faith is not, unless it turns into stubborn denial.

You have to convince yourself that Muhammad flew to heaven on a pony and split the moon in half and you can’t question if it happened or not. That is called blindly following. It’s what happens in a cult.

Claiming that belief in the Night Journey or the splitting of the moon makes Islam “cult like” is a strawman fallacy.

• First, miracles are not the foundation of belief in Islam. Tawheed (oneness of God), purpose of life, and the rationality of divine design are.

• Second, once someone accepts the Creator, the Qur’an, and the Prophet through rational evidence, belief in miracles becomes logically consistent. A God capable of creating the cosmos can split a moon or raise someone to the heavens. What’s illogical is claiming to believe in an all powerful God, yet denying He can break natural law.

And your analogy of comparing religion to scientific advancement is a bit of a stretch granted the scientific method actually requires evidence thus conviction is judged differently. But for the sake of argument, I’ll just accept it. If you question if Earth is flat or not, but yourself say “I think Earth is round but I just want to know how that’s true because X, Y, Z.” And you’d be considered a round Earth follower. Or even with Christianity they are similar. But Islam is so strict it quite literally would be that “I think Allah is God but I just want to know how he can be true if he lets X, Y, Z.” would make you a kafir from scholarly consensus.

You claimed religion cannot be compared to science because science demands evidence. But this is a false analogy. Science deals with empirical evidence (what we can test). Religion deals with metaphysical truths, which require philosophical and theological reasoning.

And I need to add that Islam literally described and brought scientific miracles 1400 year before some of these discoveries in the past century

Islam is not blind faith, it is critical reflection.

You claim scholars say “if you question Allah’s actions, you’re a kafir.” That’s bs.

Scholars differentiate between waswasah (whispers), shakk (doubt), and juhud (denial). Questioning “why Allah allowed something” is not kufr unless done in a challenging, rejecting tone with certainty. Even the companions of the prophet asked questions, and the Prophet taught them with patience.


It’s ironic you call Islam a cult for demanding conviction. Every coherent worldview demands conviction. Atheism requires you to believe life is random and morality is a social contract. Christianity requires belief in original sin and vicarious salvation. Islam stands unique in: Demanding sincerity, welcoming investigation and encouraging reason.


Allah says:

“Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and the earth… are signs for people who use reason.” (Qur’an 3:190)

Again, you’re a Muslim so you’ll disagree with me to hell and back and this conversation won’t really get anywhere. So we will have to respectfully agree to disagree.

I’ll this that last part as a way of avoiding the discussion. Because if you truly believed that continuing won’t lead anywhere, you wouldn’t have taken the time to respond at all.

 

[imontheloose]

What's magical about the Quran

Nothing! It claims magic is true is my point.

 

[Depresso]

You still haven’t replied to it. And it has absolutely nothing to do with it. Telling me how my claims about Islam are false requires you no context to my religious following.

No, it has everything to do with your beliefs. You tell me how this is false?

Interesting you picked out the one thing which you eventually realised was an opinion. You wouldn’t question Muhammad and Allah, would you? You noticed what I said was true, didn’t you?

They're all opinions.

Nonetheless, I think the Quran is at the very least partly a manual for conquering, it tells you how to behave in war, briefly what is permitted and not, and in stages granted permission to fight specific people. Almost all Muslim worship requires you to use Arabic. It essentially is a tool to Arabise its followers, hence why the places it went generally began to include more and more Arabic in its language.

Give me quotes. Other members here gave you evidence.

For example, in Iran, the Muslims infamously would cut out the tongues of those who spoke Farsi instead of Arabic.

Are you Iranian yourself? Where does this claim come from?

To deny Islam’s nature is to spread by the sword rather than polite and kind teaching whilst prohibiting even mere activism for enemy ideologies in the same civilisation is, for lack of a better term, retarded.

Give me examples of the prohibited enemy ideologies?

 

[Depresso]

For example, in Iran, the Muslims infamously would cut out the tongues of those who spoke Farsi instead of Arabic.

 

[emeraldglass]

Quran hyper focuses on summoning magic, which is in itself diluted from biblical literature.
Islam is rarely brought up in occultist circles due to it's dogma, you guys had sufism for a while before you killed it and dragged its corpse through mud.

Actually, Islam talks a lot more about how harmful magic is, who practices it, and how to protect yourself from it. It goes way deeper into this than the Bible does, can’t really compare the two.

humans practiced magic way before babylonian times

Most well known occultists, like Aleister Crowley and Dion Fortune, often reference Babylon in their works. Historically, ancient Babylon (Mesopotamia) is also the earliest civilization where magic is documented and discussed.

 

[Depresso]

by your definition every single idea is a religion by itself

Abrahamic religions are different perspectives on the same story.

How does magic work?

 

[Qimr]

It goes way deeper into this than the Bible does, can’t really compare the two.

I'm not christian but I've read both books and know this is bs, just the catalog of demonology in the new testament mogs the hell out of islam's jinns. @PrinceLuenLeoncur thoughts?

Most well known occultists, like Aleister Crowley and Dion Fortune, often reference Babylon in their works.

so? they mainly invoked judeo-christian demons (not mentioned in the quran)

Historically, ancient Babylon (Mesopotamia) is also the earliest civilization where magic is documented and discussed.

documented yes practiced no, the son of the first man was cursed by god as such humans knew about the supernatural way before this, paleolithic cave paintings support this.

 

[ToodlyDood]

I'm jewish so I can read the original hebrew literature,I mainly recommend bahir and zohar.

now why is a jew talking badly about my religion? firstly magic is not allowed in islam so you got that point wrong. second isn't your talmud okay with raping girls 3 and under because they can't lose their virginity before that? and you call us goatfuckers. genuinely end it you virgin witch, all these love chants you're still on this forum

 

[ToodlyDood]

They do. They believe it’s haram, yes, but they still believe in magic. To deny it would be to deny the Quran and they’d probably be castrated for not following blindly.

"following blindly" just end it chud

 

[Gengar]

Yeah I tried with a Muslim once he got mad and started doing Sihir on me lol @shia.jihadist @Gengar

JFLLLLLLL.

 

[Gengar]

@JohnDoe @Gengar @Diarrhoea @haramzada @vernier holy fucking cage, read this shit

JFL at the random Urdu.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Numerology is nonsense. Magic, in reality, is always a pact between a sorcerer and a devil, there’s no power in writing itself. What people call ‘Arab magic’ doesn’t actually exist; they just developed different methods to communicate with shayateen (demons).

This picture you posted is most likely part of a pact between a seeker and a demon. It’s a contract that helps sustain the magic, once destroyed, the pact ends. But the writing itself holds no power, it’s merely a symbolic agreement.

Basically.

A good analogy is warlocks in D&D they get their power through pacts (Demonic Patrons) and once it’s broken their pact is broken and abilities gone

Demons are deceivers so they lie to Mohammedens and tell tbem
They are simply Genies (Djinns) but in reality they are fallen angels and Nephelim evil spirits. We know because when they aren’t asked and when they are allowed to speak their mind many off them openly admit to being the sons of god in genesis and descend from the angels that disobeyed god

Ironically my name is very similar to some off the fallen angels

When I first became Christian I used to accidentally pray to 2 demons (Fallen angels from the OT) for protection and guidance

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I'm not christian but I've read both books and know this is bs, just the catalog of demonology in the new testament mogs the hell out of islam's jinns. @PrinceLuenLeoncur thoughts?

so? they mainly invoked judeo-christian demons (not mentioned in the quran)

documented yes practiced no, the son of the first man was cursed by god as such humans knew about the supernatural way before this, paleolithic cave paintings support this.

In Islam demons are simply just spirit humans….


No dead srs they are literally just people in a different dimension.

Islamic demonology is from Arabic paganism and has no roots in the Jewish history that’s why you see a huge departure from Judaism/Chrisrianity demonology and Islam, I have always said Islam isn’t truly an abrahamic religion but an Arabic pagan religion that borrowed aspects of Christianity and Judaism.

Even then Christianity even deviated a bit more in the NT revelation speaks more about how demons came to be a bit more then the OT and this time finally established the Devil as not just an catch all term for evil spirit creature but also an big bad boss off the evil spirit creatures from the Book of Enoch and Genesis 3-5

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

now why is a jew talking badly about my religion? firstly magic is not allowed in islam so you got that point wrong. second isn't your talmud okay with raping girls 3 and under because they can't lose their virginity before that? and you call us goatfuckers. genuinely end it you virgin witch, all these love chants you're still on this forum

Irony of a Muslim saying this when their “perfect human example” fucks 9 year olds (in our solar Callander she was actually 8 years old lol)

 

[ToodlyDood]

Irony of a Muslim saying this when their “perfect human example” fucks 9 year olds (in our solar Callander she was actually 8 years old lol)

you're clearly a troll, wtf is "Crusader ghazi jihadi mujahideen, YESHUA ACKBAR" just end it. also if you're western, soon the LGBTQ+ will adopt MAP (minor attracted people) (it's already happening) and if you're jewish then stay mad you're raping newborns, atleast with us it's just marriage, but for you it's a free for all no one can rape a 3 year old, if you're a christian one of your prophets married a 6 year old as well in your bible. if you're an atheist then in nature there is no such thing as "age of consent" and it's man-made and that's going against nature and darwinian theory.

what's your point?

@lastredeemer @KeepCopingLads

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

you're clearly a troll, wtf is "Crusader ghazi jihadi mujahideen, YESHUA ACKBAR" just end it. also if you're western, soon the LGBTQ+ will adopt MAP (minor attracted people) (it's already happening) and if you're jewish then stay mad you're raping newborns, atleast with us it's just marriage, but for you it's a free for all no one can rape a 3 year old, if you're a christian one of your prophets married a 6 year old as well in your bible. if you're an atheist then in nature there is no such thing as "age of consent" and it's man-made and that's going against nature and darwinian theory.

what's your point?

@pajjeetslayer @lastredeemer @KeepCopingLads

It’s a meme title. I won’t change it, it sounds hilarious. It reflects my history as a Mozarab. lol no prophet married a 6 year old, and no Isaac didn’t marry Rebecca when she was 3 either. Is that what Islam does to the brain? It makes one cry rage and lie? Tu quo kwe won’t save you all it means is we are all wrong ahahah but thankfully god is good and shows the fruit of Mohammed the greatest pedophile to ever exist

I dunno why you think I’m pro west… the west is an apostate irreligious GAYtheistic hellhole. I hope god continues flooding it with immigrants and Muslims because westerners are all apostate faggots who hate Jesus and prefer the world.

So yeah to me both the west and Mohammeden world and the Yahoood are all degenerate scumbags

So yeah thanks for bullying the west with me Allhamdullilah

 

[ToodlyDood]

It’s a meme title. I won’t change it, it sounds hilarious. It reflects my history as a Mozarab

I dunno why you think I’m pro west… the west is an apostate irreligious GAYtheistic hellhole. I hope god continues flooding it with immigrants and Muslims because westerners are all apostate faggots who hate Jesus and prefer the world.

So yeah to me both the west and Mohammeden world and the Yahoood are all degenerate scumbags

So yeah thanks for bullying the west with me Allhamdullilah

just end it, not a single defense. one of the prophets in bible married a 6 year old, where's your defense?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

just end it, not a single defense. one of the prophets in bible married a 6 year old, where's your defense?

Never happened that’s my defence. Like why would I defend something that’s so clearly obviously Islamic nonsense made up by your corrupted pedophile prophets brain that you have to cope because off your Pedo book that you follow sura 65:4 lol

And if it were true (it isn’t but let’s entertain it) then guess what… that prophet would also be condemned

Yes unlike Mo Mo pedo followers we openly acknowledge that the prophets were sinners and not pure even some of our greats like Solomon and David were avid open sinnners and we know they did many deplorable things we aren’t gay like Mohammedens to say all prophets are perfect and pure in lalaland such a childish cult you are in like kids needing Disney to have happy endings or you’ll cry

 

[pajjeetslayer]

It’s a meme title. I won’t change it, it sounds hilarious. It reflects my history as a Mozarab. lol no prophet married a 6 year old, and no Isaac didn’t marry Rebecca when she was 3 either. Is that what Islam does to the brain? It makes one cry rage and lie? Tu quo kwe won’t save you all it means is we are all wrong ahahah but thankfully god is good and shows the fruit of Mohammed the greatest pedophile to ever exist

I dunno why you think I’m pro west… the west is an apostate irreligious GAYtheistic hellhole. I hope god continues flooding it with immigrants and Muslims because westerners are all apostate faggots who hate Jesus and prefer the world.

So yeah to me both the west and Mohammeden world and the Yahoood are all degenerate scumbags

So yeah thanks for bullying the west with me Allhamdullilah

Y did I get dragged in to this tldr?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Y did I get dragged in to this tldr?

Blud why yo ass askin me I never tagged u nigga FOH DAWG

 

[pajjeetslayer]

Blud why yo ass askin me I never tagged u nigga FOH DAWG

Wrong person

 

[ToodlyDood]

Never happened that’s my defence. Like why would I defend something that’s so clearly obviously Islamic nonsense made up by your corrupted pedophile prophets brain that you have to cope because off your Pedo book that you follow sura 65:4 lol

And if it were true (it isn’t but let’s entertain it) then guess what… that prophet would also be condemned

Yes unlike Mo Mo pedo followers we openly acknowledge that the prophets were sinners and not pure even some of our greats like Solomon and David were avid open sinnners and we know they did many deplorable things we aren’t gay like Mohammedens to say all prophets are perfect and pure in lalaland such a childish cult you are in like kids needing Disney to have happy endings or you’ll cry

first of all, you saying your prophets can be wrong means you're not christian, you're something else but not christian. because where do you get your christianity from? the scriptures, so if you don't follow the people who brought the scriptures what do you follow? claim something else but not christianity

also literally in the bible it says you're supposed to kill and sacrifice children, how are you gonna act high and mighty?

• Deuteronomy 20:16-17
  “But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes... You shall devote them to complete destruction.”
• Judges 11:30-39 (summary)
  Jephthah vowed that if he won a battle, he would offer as a burnt offering whoever came out of his house first. Tragically, it was his daughter who greeted him, and he felt bound to fulfill his vow.

• Raping an Unbetrothed Virgin and Forced Marriage​

  Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (ESV)
  “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.”

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

first of all, you saying your prophets can be wrong means you're not christian, you're something else but not christian. because where do you get your christianity from? the scriptures, so if you don't follow the people who brought the scriptures what do you follow? claim something else but not christianity

also literally in the bible it says you're supposed to kill and sacrifice children, how are you gonna act high and mighty?

• Deuteronomy 20:16-17
  “But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes... You shall devote them to complete destruction.”
• Judges 11:30-39 (summary)
  Jephthah vowed that if he won a battle, he would offer as a burnt offering whoever came out of his house first. Tragically, it was his daughter who greeted him, and he felt bound to fulfill his vow.

• Raping an Unbetrothed Virgin and Forced Marriage​

  Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (ESV)
  “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.”

lol you don’t even know what Christianity is


Both Jews and Christina acknowledge the prophets are sinners they even admit this themselves that’s why Isiah asks god to burn his tongue in Isiah 6


This is evidence you know JACK SHIT about Christian or Jewish Theology your an imbecile.

22:27-29 uses the word taphas (this in Hebrew means to hold but doesn’t mean rape due to how the language words and context this is proven with the LXX Greek saying “seduction” so yes this is the punishment for sez outside of marriage that’s consensual


No issue here, but yes ofc you think it’s rape ahaha stupid Mohammeden with 0 knoweledge off the Hebrew

Rape == death as the whole chapter points out


The other verses are just God casting his judgement on the Caananites he game them time to repent they didn’t (gen 15:16) and they used to rape animals and sacrifice children to Baal (your God is Bhal btw so plz don’t disrespect your demon god) so yeah God say F em and yes ofc most of the words are Rhetorical and Hyperbolic this was normal for Near Eastern cultures at the time you see this as a couple chapters later the Caananites still exist in other books so clearly it wasn’t genocide too the degree outlined

This is completely based and justified god was too kind to them imo is had killed them all jsut like in kings 15

As for japtheth well once again yeah many prophets did bad things this doesn’t affect my theology one bit this is in line with it the book of judges points out that many people did what they saw right in gods eyes and did not obey him so what the problem? Also some say this isn’t literal as it’s to symbolise her like a Nun for she is described as pure and a chaste virgin (his daughter so it may not even be literal)


So yeah in my theologies standards nothing that happened was wrong now I’m waiting for the prophet who fucked an 6 year old I’m WAITING

 

[ElMismisimoHDP]

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I'm well versed in magic and kabbalah in general but mystical numerology in islam is a different kind of schizo, what are those goatfuckers smoking over there?
tag some muslims

That’s a complex diagram used to figure out how many inches of cock muhammad received when he was raped by the men of Al zut

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Irony of a Muslim saying this when their “perfect human example” fucks 9 year olds (in our solar Callander she was actually 8 years old lol)

You do realise we have accurate records of Aisha's sister and we know the age gap between Aisha and her sister and yh it's been confirmed Aisha was 17-20. How are people still thinking she was 9. But from this point I will not be discussing this more cus this is a looksmaxing forum and not a place where people debate about religion

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

You do realise we have accurate records of Aisha's sister and we know the age gap between Aisha and her sister and yh it's been confirmed Aisha was 17-20. How are people still thinking she was 9. But from this point I will not be discussing this more cus this is a looksmaxing forum and not a place where people debate about religion

This is off topic people debate about race and other dumb shit here don’t chicken out Mohammeden

Yeah and yet ibn Hajar, Bukhari and every other expositor of your vile filth says she was 6-7 when married and MO raped her when she was 9 (actually 8 in our solar colander)

Also yes the ages vary even Ibn Hajar states some say she was 100 overs 70

Point being that Arabic ages back then were sometimes used as symbolism for a long age and not really accurate. Also according to Hadith science because the person it is about ADMITTED and spoke on her age this TRIUMPHS the Mohammeden copium that your gay prophet wasn’t a nasty Pedophile by your own religions rules of Hadith science


So sit down kid and listen to your imams you Kafir Muntafiq who tell you to STFU and accept aishas age (You notice no Shiek or imam says this dumb shit your spouting)

 

[bakpaokukus]

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I'm well versed in magic and kabbalah in general but mystical numerology in islam is a different kind of schizo, what are those goatfuckers smoking over there?
tag some muslims

 

[KeepCopingLads]

This is off topic people debate about race and other dumb shit here don’t chicken out Mohammeden

Yeah and yet ibn Hajar, Bukhari and every other expositor of your vile filth says she was 6-7 when married and MO raped her when she was 9 (actually 8 in our solar colander)

Also yes the ages vary even Ibn Hajar states some say she was 100 overs 70

Point being that Arabic ages back then were sometimes used as symbolism for a long age and not really accurate. Also according to Hadith science because the person it is about ADMITTED and spoke on her age this TRIUMPHS the Mohammeden copium that your gay prophet wasn’t a nasty Pedophile by your own religions rules of Hadith science


So sit down kid and listen to your imams you Kafir Muntafiq who tell you to STFU and accept aishas age (You notice no Shiek or imam says this dumb shit your spouting)

We're in a looksmaxing forum, grow up

 

[Qimr]

In Islam demons are simply just spirit humans….

exactly my point, no history of the demon world, no key figures in jinns(except for iblis), just generic black humanoids wageslaving like us and mating (you think jinns were a racist allegory to black people?)

lol you don’t even know what Christianity is


Both Jews and Christina acknowledge the prophets are sinners they even admit this themselves that’s why Isiah asks god to burn his tongue in Isiah 6


This is evidence you know JACK SHIT about Christian or Jewish Theology your an imbecile.

22:27-29 uses the word taphas (this in Hebrew means to hold but doesn’t mean rape due to how the language words and context this is proven with the LXX Greek saying “seduction” so yes this is the punishment for sez outside of marriage that’s consensual


No issue here, but yes ofc you think it’s rape ahaha stupid Mohammeden with 0 knoweledge off the Hebrew

Rape == death as the whole chapter points out


The other verses are just God casting his judgement on the Caananites he game them time to repent they didn’t (gen 15:16) and they used to rape animals and sacrifice children to Baal (your God is Bhal btw so plz don’t disrespect your demon god) so yeah God say F em and yes ofc most of the words are Rhetorical and Hyperbolic this was normal for Near Eastern cultures at the time you see this as a couple chapters later the Caananites still exist in other books so clearly it wasn’t genocide too the degree outlined

This is completely based and justified god was too kind to them imo is had killed them all jsut like in kings 15

As for japtheth well once again yeah many prophets did bad things this doesn’t affect my theology one bit this is in line with it the book of judges points out that many people did what they saw right in gods eyes and did not obey him so what the problem? Also some say this isn’t literal as it’s to symbolise her like a Nun for she is described as pure and a chaste virgin (his daughter so it may not even be literal)


So yeah in my theologies standards nothing that happened was wrong now I’m waiting for the prophet who fucked an 6 year old I’m WAITING

don't bother with him he's some underage bengali child with the reading comprehension of a 6 year old, he saw my thread and his first course of action was to spam my inbox with "kys"

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are you trying to summon ebina-chan?

 

[KeepCopingLads]

This is off topic people debate about race and other dumb shit here don’t chicken out Mohammeden

Yeah and yet ibn Hajar, Bukhari and every other expositor of your vile filth says she was 6-7 when married and MO raped her when she was 9 (actually 8 in our solar colander)

Also yes the ages vary even Ibn Hajar states some say she was 100 overs 70

Point being that Arabic ages back then were sometimes used as symbolism for a long age and not really accurate. Also according to Hadith science because the person it is about ADMITTED and spoke on her age this TRIUMPHS the Mohammeden copium that your gay prophet wasn’t a nasty Pedophile by your own religions rules of Hadith science


So sit down kid and listen to your imams you Kafir Muntafiq who tell you to STFU and accept aishas age (You notice no Shiek or imam says this dumb shit your spouting)

Stop spewing low iq rants