It’s just so over for me at this point

[Celt]

> never even been close to getting in a relationship at almost 21
> the few ”friends” i have at uni don’t fw me and if i didn’t make the first move every time i would probably never see them again
> old friends from back home are incels and don’t do anything but LDAR
> know hardly anyone on my course and just sit alone in lectures every day
> zero motion at all, not talking to any girls and i’ve only ever got laid going to the club
> never had a job despite trying to get one all summer
> already behind on my course and i have zero motivation to study, not even passionate about it any more
> copes don’t work anymore
> physique is still ass
> indiamart order got seized and have to reship
> broke
> ill with the flu

thing is i’m not even ugly i’m tall and mtn. i’m just brutally nd and unlucky and undersocialised

i’ve had nothing going on in my life for so long and i see no way out of anything im just tired man

 

[nordic88]

never rope if theres still hope

 

[Framechang]

Get into mountain summiting and leave your entire life behind

 

[Celt]

never rope if theres still hope

there isnt any hope jfl
ive had like 100 different cope arcs in the last few years where i thought trying a different strategy or improving something with my life would fix anything or make me happy and it never did its just been a downward spiral since i was 16

 

[nordic88]

there isnt any hope jfl
ive had like 100 different cope arcs in the last few years where i thought trying a different strategy or improving something with my life would fix anything or make me happy and it never did its just been a downward spiral since i was 16

how old are you now?

 

[Celt]

Get into mountain summiting and leave your entire life behind

i dont see how it would make me happy
i already gymcel and do cardio as a cope and its just a brief distraction

honestly it would probably be more blackpilling because mountaineering is already so incredibly gentrified
just full of rich normies paying sherpas to carry them up everest so they can get ig photos

 

[Celt]

how old are you now?

20, 21 in march

 

[nordic88]

20, 21 in march

sorry to hear what you are going thru bhai

but there is always hope, you just gotta know where to change ur focus towards

 

[americanpakitruvcel]

20, 21 in march

Turning 21 in November, life feels like it never began

 

[Celt]

sorry to hear what you are going thru bhai

but there is always hope, you just gotta know where to change ur focus towards

i appreciate the sentiment but i’ve tried that more than enough times
determinism doesn’t just apply to looks is applies to the brain
its just over for some people ig

 

[Celt]

Turning 21 in November, life feels like it never began

honestly
its like i’ve been waiting for it to start and it just never does

 

[americanpakitruvcel]

honestly
its like i’ve been waiting for it to start and it just never does

I’m making progress but it’s absurdly slow and depressing

 

[nordic88]

i appreciate the sentiment but i’ve tried that more than enough times
determinism doesn’t just apply to looks is applies to the brain
its just over for some people ig

you're older than me but you are still young brodie. you got a whole life ahead of you still

get rich and drop everything that is deadweight to your potential

 

[Celt]

I’m making progress but it’s absurdly slow and depressing

what blackpills me is that, sure i can try to “improov” to claw my way into the milestones that neurotypicals get as teenagers, but that by then i’ll be so developmentally stunted that my peers will be so far ahead of me and i’ll have “missed out”

imagine missing out on love for so long that you’re stuck with a 30 something year old becky as your first love, that spent her 20s fucking around and just sees you as “safe”

 

[americanpakitruvcel]

what blackpills me is that, sure i can try to “improov” to claw my way into the milestones that neurotypicals get as teenagers, but that by then i’ll be so developmentally stunted that my peers will be so far ahead of me and i’ll have “missed out”

imagine missing out on love for so long that you’re stuck with a 30 something year old becky as your first love, that spent her 20s fucking around and just sees you as “safe”

I’m so fucking far behind in every conceivable way I feel like an alien

 

[Celt]

you're older than me but you are still young brodie. you got a whole life ahead of you still

get rich and drop everything that is deadweight to your potential

money isn’t going to solve my problems
im already at a fairly “elite” university doing an engineering degree anyways

and for what? so i can be a betabuxx to a woman that doesn’t want me? so that i can buy expensive copes without any real friends to enjoy them with? so that i can compensate for my mentalceldom with flashy cars or whatever to make myself want to off myself less?

 

[Celt]

I’m so fucking far behind in every conceivable way I feel like an alien

honestly so relatable

it feels like nts just got given this instruction set on how to live life and i was just expected to figure it out without one

 

[americanpakitruvcel]

honestly so relatable

it feels like nts just got given this instruction set on how to live life and i was just expected to figure it out without one

I don’t have Autism but my adhd and social anxiety have caused me similar developmental delays and issues as people on the spectrum, I don’t even feel at home with other NDs because I feel like my lack of autism should enable me to figure things out but I just can’t

 

[Majklos]

I feel you man, I grew up as an only child, I’m under socialised too, also never had a girlfriend even tho I’m pretty decent looking

 

[Celt]

I don’t have Autism but my adhd and social anxiety have caused me similar developmental delays and issues as people on the spectrum, I don’t even feel at home with other NDs because I feel like my lack of autism should enable me to figure things out but I just can’t

i get this with other nds too tbh
i feel bad about it but its clear whenever i go into those kinds of spaces that most of them are substantially more nd than me and i just can’t tolerate it

ironically they tend to do better because past a certain point of neurodivergence you’re just super low inhib, like chris chan types, and so they can have somewhat vibrant social lives with other super nd people who share their interests or whatnot

i sort of occupy the part of the spectrum where normies just instinctively find me offputting without necessarily knowing why and where life is just awful because i don’t even have any sort of special interest/obsession nor would i be low inhib enough to be open about it like giga-autists are

 

[Majklos]

good luck man, we got this you are not alone in this

 

[americanpakitruvcel]

i get this with other nds too tbh
i feel bad about it but its clear whenever i go into those kinds of spaces that most of them are substantially more nd than me and i just can’t tolerate it

ironically they tend to do better because past a certain point of neurodivergence you’re just super low inhib, like chris chan types, and so they can have somewhat vibrant social lives with other super nd people who share their interests or whatnot

i sort of occupy the part of the spectrum where normies just instinctively find me offputting without necessarily knowing why and where life is just awful because i don’t even have any sort of special interest/obsession nor would i be low inhib enough to be open about it like giga-autists are

I just come off as a shy but chill guy to most normies I think I don’t have that offputting skinwalker thing autists have by default, but I’m extremely averse to socializing even though I know it’s good for me and it tires me out fast. Plus adhd makes any real life progression or studying or goals hell on earth even with meds. Mine is really really bad I would be a fundamentally different person without it

 

[Celt]

I just come off as a shy but chill guy to most normies I think I don’t have that offputting skinwalker thing autists have by default, but I’m extremely averse to socializing even though I know it’s good for me and it tires me out fast. Plus adhd makes any real life progression or studying or goals hell on earth even with meds. Mine is really really bad I would be a fundamentally different person without it

yeah i’ve got adhd too (diagnosed through my uni but i still have to wait for the nhs to give me meds so i have to cope with indiamart modafinil until then) and its fucking awful

foids talk about it like its some sort of quirky personality trait that makes you hyperactive or some shit but it’s nothing like that

 

[americanpakitruvcel]

yeah i’ve got adhd too (diagnosed through my uni but i still have to wait for the nhs to give me meds so i have to cope with indiamart modafinil until then) and its fucking awful

foids talk about it like its some sort of quirky personality trait that makes you hyperactive or some shit but it’s nothing like that

I’m trying to be an engineer too but I’m not going to get anywhere until I really lock in and create consistent systems for success I’m so far behind I’m just now starting calc 1 jfl. I’m not stupid but I’m definitely not intelligent enough to breeze through classes like some other people with adhd can

 

[Celt]

I’m trying to be an engineer too but I’m not going to get anywhere until I really lock in and create consistent systems for success I’m so far behind I’m just now starting calc 1 jfl. I’m not stupid but I’m definitely not intelligent enough to breeze through classes like some other people with adhd can

good luck man
for me i’ve managed to get through it so far but very unhealthily
like i just procrastinated the whole year last year and then genuinely did about 20 allnighters in a month and was running on stupid amounts of modaf and caffeine just to stay awake and get my coursework and studying done, think i was genuinelly psychotic for a while because of it

honestly starting to think some of the shit i’ve been feeling in the past few months was related to that

 

[SabiWabi]

almost everything u said is the same story as me 19, only way to bag women is money atp

 

[Celt]

almost everything u said is the same story as me 19, only way to bag women is money atp

i have zero interest in betabuxxing i’d rather rope

 

[Looshmaxxed]

determinism doesn’t just apply to looks is applies to the brain
its just over for some people ig

i'm determinism pilled + metaphysically cursed n ND
for some people, it never begun. i'm one of them

 

[Vincent Freeman]

and for what? so i can be a betabuxx to a woman that doesn’t want me? so that i can buy expensive copes without any real friends to enjoy them with? so that i can compensate for my mentalceldom with flashy cars or whatever to make myself want to off myself less?

You betabux want way or another.
Everyone who is in contact with you only is because they want something from you.

but i get you think this way cause youre still teen mentaly or sounds like, so you think that now when you have nothing, people needs to love you or lust for you instead.

 

[SabiWabi]

i have zero interest in betabuxxing i’d rather rope

basically impossible to find a good woman nowadays, maybe coworker would work but still not sure