It's literally close to impossible to get a good physique naturally

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All proud natty guys in my gym have dyel physiques there's only 2-3 who would not look dyel on a SHIRT ( not a t - shirt)
If they look big then you would assume that they are just fat as they'll have a huge belly too
If they are lean then you won't be able to tell they go to the gym even on a t shirt lol

And idk where are these fuckers coming from who say muh all guys I see are jacked and roiding despite rotting in their mom's basement for years.

Very few guys roid and if you do so you are way ahead of natties and save yourself time

You need roids or elite (top 0.1% genes) to get a body halo.
 
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Average natty looksmaxxer:

Celebrity body builder rich piana died over dose 3 0 1504283041
 
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This should be water but you dont need to look big in a shirt
 
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natural lifting takes a lot of fucking time and patience

you have to start as young you as 13 and you have to know what you're actually doing you can't be spending the first 3 years doing random shit , thats why alot teenagers are jacked now days they have alot of new informations and easy to follow through by the time they reach 20 yo they're at their peak limit

you need legit 10 years of dicipline and knowing what you're doing to build an impressive phisique
 
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Blacks dont coung
 
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This should be water but you dont need to look big in a shirt
Yes you do or atleast I want to look big in shirts
I'm not a male model facially so I need other halos to increase my smv I can't roam around with 14 inch arms and be proud and lean.
 
Just train mike mentzer way bro
 
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Yes you do or atleast I want to look big in shirts
I'm not a male model facially so I need other halos to increase my smv I can't roam around with 14 inch arms and be proud and lean.
Brother have you seen fashion nowadays, all people do is wear big aa clothes
 
I'm too scared to start roiding cuz of fucking up my face and health
 
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You dont need to Look Big in a t shirt. Just Look good naked combined with Chad lite face and 6'2 and girls Will adore you
 
jusr roid and age by 10 years bro , you need elite genes to benefit from roids and get little to no side effects
 
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Women don't care about muscle.
 
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roiding is diminishing returns
a decent 2 year natty lean natty physique would be more than enough to satisfy most women
height and face is what ultimately matters
 
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They do, since it means the man can better protect her.
a foid would consider a guy with barely any muscles but tall with good clavicles more capable then roided out average height guy
 
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They only care about face and height. Trust me they don't care about muscles.
It's skinny<roided<lean and muscular<not lean but muscular

Being muscular is better than being a twink, but it's not better than being built like a bear.
 
They only care about face and height. Trust me they don't care about muscles.
Most gymrats insecurely flex their muscles. "Is it good?" they ask. That's ofc unattractive.
 
agree natty lifting is a fucking joke unless u got BBC/viking genetics. u can still make good gains and have a good physique but it takes way way way more effort and time, and unless your entire life revolves around lifting + ur below 5'9 u will never be lean + big
 
 
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Blacks are naturally on dat test and tren

Look at Ronnie Coleman
 
They only care about face and height. Trust me they don't care about muscles.
Typical looksmax autist retard take. Keep leanmaxxing bro i'm sure you'll ascend when you're 7% bf and 50 kg
 
you dont need to look big in shirt, women can tell u lift by your arms and forearms + shoulders. If you don't have longhead bicep or vascular forearms its over. Looking big is a meme and gay gaze
 
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They really don't.
you're blue and still haven't seen tinder experiments with gymcels pics? look up for the alphadestiny one and then stop coping and start gymceling because you are no chad and can't get away without it
 
All proud natty guys in my gym have dyel physiques there's only 2-3 who would not look dyel on a SHIRT ( not a t - shirt)
If they look big then you would assume that they are just fat as they'll have a huge belly too
If they are lean then you won't be able to tell they go to the gym even on a t shirt lol

And idk where are these fuckers coming from who say muh all guys I see are jacked and roiding despite rotting in their mom's basement for years.

Very few guys roid and if you do so you are way ahead of natties and save yourself time

You need roids or elite (top 0.1% genes) to get a body halo.
That’s because they don’t stick to anything but yes true to an extent. Utterly water.
 
Just have wide clavicles and you'll look big in a shirt even without ever working out jfl.
 
Just framemaxx bro jfl
 
All proud natty guys in my gym have dyel physiques there's only 2-3 who would not look dyel on a SHIRT ( not a t - shirt)
If they look big then you would assume that they are just fat as they'll have a huge belly too
If they are lean then you won't be able to tell they go to the gym even on a t shirt lol

And idk where are these fuckers coming from who say muh all guys I see are jacked and roiding despite rotting in their mom's basement for years.

Very few guys roid and if you do so you are way ahead of natties and save yourself time

You need roids or elite (top 0.1% genes) to get a body halo.
just train neck forearms ans traps to look big in clothes
 
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You can look good in 2 years with good frame, proportions, and insertions.
 
No roids for your frame
 

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