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Joke aside, if this is actually you (JFL) then go back to where you belong: ---> http://www.incels.is/ <---

AND DON'T COME BACK!
 
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Shower meme strikes again
 
@itsOVER
@StormlitAqua
@MiserableIncel
 
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@itsOVER
@StormlitAqua
@MiserableIncel
What now?

Regardless if I am incel or not, I always make my posts high-effort and respectable. I never give anyone a short uneducated response. I am not what OP describes. I have been trying to fix the .me of this issue for a long time with little-to-no success.

I have mentioned this a million times... looksmaxing does exist but there are many fake traps that people mistake for looksmaxing, such as weightlifting or anything to do with "game". Quit drinking the redpill koolaid. I can looksmax and am already.

I already use .me way more and really want to leave this site but people keep annoying me.
 
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What now?

Regardless if I am incel or not, I always make my posts high-effort and respectable. I never give anyone a short uneducated response. I am not what OP describes. I have been trying to fix the .me of this issue for a long time with little-to-no success.

I have mentioned this a million times... looksmaxing does exist but there are many fake traps that people mistake for looksmaxing, such as weightlifting or anything to do with "game". Quit drinking the redpill koolaid. I can looksmax and am already.

I already use .me way more and really want to leave this site but people keep annoying me.
r u incel
 
Awww, is the baby mad when his copes get BTFO?

Chads are born, not made by mewing, gym, dressing nice, getting haircuts or any other cope bollocks.

Plus, I've looksmaxed plenty. Just as StormlitAqua mentions, not by doing redpilled shit like gymcelling.
 
low IQ thread
 
Awww, is the baby mad when his copes get BTFO?

Chads are born, not made by mewing, gym, dressing nice, getting haircuts or any other cope bollocks.

Plus, I've looksmaxed plenty. Just as StormlitAqua mentions, not by doing redpilled shit like gymcelling.

OOOOOH WE GOT A REAL LOOKSMAXER HERE! I keep hearing that everything is a cope, but you people are still on looksmax.org, so what are some of your non-cope looksmaxes?
 
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OOOOOH WE GOT A REAL LOOKSMAXER HERE! I keep hearing that everything is a cope, but you people are still on looksmax.org, so what are some of your non-cope looksmaxes?

- Get to a low bodyfat percentage.
- Surgery.
- Not a looksmax per-se, but you can also try moving to a place where the females don't have an ego the size of a small planet (i.e. get the fuck out of the west), and where your ethnicity works as an SMV boost (mainly for whites in Asia/South America, possibly for blacks in Eastern Europe but I've no personal experience of that one being white myself).

Don't even think about lecturing me on laziness, defeatism etc. I've done a whole lot more to ascend than at least 99% of the forum - possibly 100% tbh. It doesn't mean I, or anyone else, has to accept every bit of bullshit that you and others come up with. Shit like gymcelling, mewing past puberty etc is all fucking cope.
 
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r u incel
Read the sig m8, I'm as incel as they come. 23 years of age and aging everyday without even so much as a single GF or sexual encounter. Even on the 3 dates I've gotten (none of which even bothered to give me a 2nd), none bothered to treat me nicely nor give me validation. None led to even a hug or kiss, and 2 of the 3 women literally talked down to me like a child on the dates. Unbelievably humiliating and degrading. I have fucked up eyes and a fat face while being a healthy BMI. I have diagnosed asperger's syndrome. There are not many options for me and looksmaxing, though I do what I can.

OOOOOH WE GOT A REAL LOOKSMAXER HERE! I keep hearing that everything is a cope, but you people are still on looksmax.org, so what are some of your non-cope looksmaxes?
I cannot speak for @itsOVER , but I am here because the ownership and moderation is the same as that of incels.me and they have proven they (for the most part) know how to run a website that is a good place for incels. This place is an obvious step back. I trust their leadership and moderation abilities. This place did look promising, as when I signed up, I thought it would be a place where current former incels could talk about strategies towards ascension. Instead, it has been overrun with redpill retards, chads who were born genetically gifted, and spammers.

Also as @itsOVER said, body fat and surgery are the two realist options for looksmaxing, and 95% of the "looksmaxing" here is not these things. I always see threads here about pick up tactics, weightlifting, "talking to girls", and other bafoonery that makes me check if my url bar in my browser says "/r/theredpill".

I am born a sub-chad. You cannot be made into one without surgery. I am 5'10, short of the 6' halo. Looksmax that.
 
Read the sig m8, I'm as incel as they come. 23 years of age and aging everyday without even so much as a single GF or sexual encounter. Even on the 3 dates I've gotten (none of which even bothered to give me a 2nd), none bothered to treat me nicely nor give me validation. None led to even a hug or kiss, and 2 of the 3 women literally talked down to me like a child on the dates. Unbelievably humiliating and degrading. I have fucked up eyes and a fat face while being a healthy BMI. I have diagnosed asperger's syndrome. There are not many options for me and looksmaxing, though I do what I can.


I cannot speak for @itsOVER , but I am here because the ownership and moderation is the same as that of incels.me and they have proven they (for the most part) know how to run a website that is a good place for incels. This place is an obvious step back. I trust their leadership and moderation abilities. This place did look promising, as when I signed up, I thought it would be a place where current former incels could talk about strategies towards ascension. Instead, it has been overrun with redpill retards, chads who were born genetically gifted, and spammers.

Also as @itsOVER said, body fat and surgery are the two realist options for looksmaxing, and 95% of the "looksmaxing" here is not these things. I always see threads here about pick up tactics, weightlifting, "talking to girls", and other bafoonery that makes me check if my url bar in my browser says "/r/theredpill".

I am born a sub-chad. You cannot be made into one without surgery. I am 5'10, short of the 6' halo. Looksmax that.
Yeah go get surgery. If the only acceptable looksmaxing for you guys is sewing plastic under your skin and losing body fat and you cannot tollerate people even thinking there is anything else that can be done, this isn't the forum for you. Imagine your looksmax forum utopia, how many posts can people make about "just lose some BF bro"? If you want a place to discuss cosmetic surgery then here's some shit I found on google: https://cosmeticjourney.com/forum/

Telling people (on a forum you don't even like) that lifting isn't going to make you more attractive (((shoulder width increase))), learning how to talk to women has no use at all, or that right when you hit age 16 God himself magically molds your skull into position for life ("all the specialists on quora.com say so!") is retarded.

And I guess I'll @itsOVER
 
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Yeah go get surgery. If the only acceptable looksmaxing for you guys is sewing plastic under your skin and losing body fat and you cannot tollerate people even thinking there is anything else that can be done, this isn't the forum for you. Imagine your looksmax forum utopia, how many posts can people make about "just lose some BF bro"? If you want a place to discuss cosmetic surgery then here's some shit I found on google: https://cosmeticjourney.com/forum/

Telling people (on a forum you don't even like) that lifting isn't going to make you more attractive (((shoulder width increase))), learning how to talk to women has no use at all, or that right when you hit age 16 God himself magically molds your skull into position for life ("all the specialists on quora.com say so!") is retarded.

And I guess I'll @itsOVER

There's no gym for your face. That's what you boyos seem to forget, having huge muscles, or even a huge frame isn't really worth much in the grand scheme of things because it's about your face, and your face has to be good for any of the other stuff to even matter at all.

'Learning how to talk to women' is pure bluepilled cope, and it can't be described as 'looksmaxing' either, so it doesn't belong here.

No, I will not be accepting the gym is a valid looksmax. No matter how much you boyos keep trying to push this shit, I aint buying. Deal with it.
 
Never began tbh
@Tony
@Ritalincel
 
There's no gym for your face. That's what you boyos seem to forget, having huge muscles, or even a huge frame isn't really worth much in the grand scheme of things because it's about your face, and your face has to be good for any of the other stuff to even matter at all.

'Learning how to talk to women' is pure bluepilled cope, and it can't be described as 'looksmaxing' either, so it doesn't belong here.

No, I will not be accepting the gym is a valid looksmax. No matter how much you boyos keep trying to push this shit, I aint buying. Deal with it.
both body and social skills matter and you are stupid if you are not maxxing them just because they aren't as important as your face.
 
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both body and social skills matter and you are stupid if you are not maxxing them just because they aren't as important as your face.

Neither matter - but 'social skills' is obviously not 'looksmaxing' anyway, and so doesn't belong here.
 
Read the sig m8, I'm as incel as they come. 23 years of age and aging everyday without even so much as a single GF or sexual encounter. Even on the 3 dates I've gotten (none of which even bothered to give me a 2nd), none bothered to treat me nicely nor give me validation. None led to even a hug or kiss, and 2 of the 3 women literally talked down to me like a child on the dates. Unbelievably humiliating and degrading. I have fucked up eyes and a fat face while being a healthy BMI. I have diagnosed asperger's syndrome. There are not many options for me and looksmaxing, though I do what I can.


I cannot speak for @itsOVER , but I am here because the ownership and moderation is the same as that of incels.me and they have proven they (for the most part) know how to run a website that is a good place for incels. This place is an obvious step back. I trust their leadership and moderation abilities. This place did look promising, as when I signed up, I thought it would be a place where current former incels could talk about strategies towards ascension. Instead, it has been overrun with redpill retards, chads who were born genetically gifted, and spammers.

Also as @itsOVER said, body fat and surgery are the two realist options for looksmaxing, and 95% of the "looksmaxing" here is not these things. I always see threads here about pick up tactics, weightlifting, "talking to girls", and other bafoonery that makes me check if my url bar in my browser says "/r/theredpill".

I am born a sub-chad. You cannot be made into one without surgery. I am 5'10, short of the 6' halo. Looksmax that.

You motherfucker. Nigger. Fuck you FAKECEL.

YOU HAVE BEEN ON 3 DATES?!?!?! WITH A WOMAN?!?!?! FAKECEL! FAKECEL! FILTHY FUCKING FAKECEL.

JFL if you think 5'10 isnt enough to get women. Yh its not as good as 6'-6'3, but the way you're talking is as if you're 5'4.

5'10 guys have sex all the time.
 
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You motherfucker. Nigger. Fuck you FAKECEL.

YOU HAVE BEEN ON 3 DATES?!?!?! WITH A WOMAN?!?!?! FAKECEL! FAKECEL! FILTHY FUCKING FAKECEL.

JFL if you think 5'10 isnt enough to get women. Yh its not as good as 6'-6'3, but the way you're talking is as if you're 5'4.

5'10 guys have sex all the time.
These bitches can''t tell the difference between 5'10 and 6'0 since everyone lies about their height anyways.....
 
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There's no gym for your face. That's what you boyos seem to forget, having huge muscles, or even a huge frame isn't really worth much in the grand scheme of things because it's about your face, and your face has to be good for any of the other stuff to even matter at all.

'Learning how to talk to women' is pure bluepilled cope, and it can't be described as 'looksmaxing' either, so it doesn't belong here.

No, I will not be accepting the gym is a valid looksmax. No matter how much you boyos keep trying to push this shit, I aint buying. Deal with it.

Lol. We all agred with you, face is important. But body is relevant lol, 4/10 face with an 8/10 body is a 6/10 atleast.

But, why do we care. Dont buy into gymcelling if you dont want to. Keep being a sad, lonely, ugly, skinny-fat basement dwelling incel nigger. Keep being a pathetic beta & emasculated biological male, all your life hunched over your computer in a dark, damp, filthy room with other waste-of-sperm virgins. Talking about "The Hypergamy". You sound like a roastie feminist ranting about "The Patriarchy".
 
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Lol. We all agred with you, face is important. But body is relevant lol, 4/10 face with an 8/10 body is a 6/10 atleast.

But, why do we care. Dont buy into gymcelling if you dont want to. Keep being a sad, lonely, ugly, skinny-fat basement dwelling incel nigger. Keep being a pathetic beta & emasculated biological male, all your life hunched over your computer in a dark, damp, filthy room with other waste-of-sperm virgins. Talking about "The Hypergamy". You sound like a roastie feminist ranting about "The Patriarchy".

Yeah this is spot on. I tell him this every time he tries to mock me. Lol pathetic aspie @itsOVER why are you even here. Fuckin beta lol

Muh beta, muh aspie, typical normfaggot responses.

It's only ever insults with you two. Anyone comes out against your gymcope and he must be a loser, lazy etc. Because you couldn't possibly be wrong, could you kids?

No gym for your face boyos. Hurts, doesn't it? A jacked 4/10 is just a 4/10 with muscle - nothing more.
 
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Joke aside, if this is actually you (JFL) then go back to where you belong: ---> http://www.incels.is/ <---

AND DON'T COME BACK!
I would but I'm perma banned tbh.
 
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Just because we use the same insults as the retards at TRP doesn't mean it isn't true

@Intel.Imperitive and I are handsome and ripped af I think you're jelly fag :feelshmm:

Keep crying while we fuck girls you could only dream of talking to you smelly retard faggot

You...you actually think you're some sort of slayer chad, don't you? Oh lord...

Though even if you were - which you aren't - it's hardly anything to be bragging about, given looks are genetic, and thus, not something you or anyone else achieved.
What the fact that you're ugly and have to look at your face every day in the mirror?

Yeah that must be traumatizing no wonder you have no job and live in mommy's basement

Says the literal faggot with anime pfp :forcedsmile:

Muh basement, yeah keep up with the cookie cutter insults. Call me 'low T' next, and don't forget to larp that you fucked a 9 last night while hugged my life sized waifu pillow. Or sonething.
I would but I'm perma banned tbh.

This too.
 
You...you actually think you're some sort of slayer chad, don't you? Oh lord...

Though even if you were - which you aren't - it's hardly anything to be bragging about, given looks are genetic, and thus, not something you or anyone else achieved.


Muh basement, yeah keep up with the cookie cutter insults. Call me 'low T' next, and don't forget to larp that you fucked a 9 last night while hugged my life sized waifu pillow. Or sonething.


This too.

Nah, I used to get bullied and rejected left right and centre when I was 14...

3 years later and I do pretty well with girls ??‍♂️

The only thing more important than face is personality tbh ngl.

Bad personality is shit. even if you have a pretty face, its over.

3/10 personality with 8/10 race is just 3/10 personality + nice face.
 
Nah, I used to get bullied and rejected left right and centre when I was 14...

3 years later and I do pretty well with girls ??‍♂️

The only thing more important than face is personality tbh ngl.

Bad personality is shit. even if you have a pretty face, its over.

3/10 personality with 8/10 race is just 3/10 personality + nice face.

Hahahaha
 
Reply to me I'm bored at gym (aka cope house according to you)

Well you're just an insecure boy feeling the need to spew insults. No real point continuing when your only reply is 'but I'm good looking! Really I am, I am!'

An actual Chad would never engage in such behaviour, but keep coping that the gym will change you.
 
I am impressed with the shitstorm.


A jacked 4/10 is just a 4/10 with muscle - nothing more.

Zyzz Before After2


Which Zyzz got laid more?
 
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I am impressed with the shitstorm.




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Which Zyzz got laid more?

Zyzz was a decent looking guy long before he started going to the gym. Most of his 'transformation' was simply going through puberty. Also, your hero injected a ton of roids for that body, resulting in him dying at age 22. Not exactly a great role model.
 
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Zyzz was a decent looking guy long before he started going to the gym. Most of his 'transformation' was simply going through puberty. Also, your hero injected a ton of roids for that body, resulting in him dying at age 22. Not exactly a great role model.
Yeah but my point is lifting IMPROVED his SMV. You think SMV is literally your face.

I don't jack off to zyzz. I believe steroids are unnecessary and that I can achieve what he did with "The Right Program" (I'm gonna do roids) and a little bit of "Hard Work" (Gonna poke that needle right into my fuckin ass) and oooh maybe some "Detication" (I'm gonna get buff doing the same set of curls at the same weight because I am on STEROIDS.)
 
Zyzz was a decent looking guy long before he started going to the gym. Most of his 'transformation' was simply going through puberty. Also, your hero injected a ton of roids for that body, resulting in him dying at age 22. Not exactly a great role model.
You didn't answer the question. The MUSCULAR ZYZZ GOT LAID MORE.
 
Yeah but my point is lifting IMPROVED his SMV. You think SMV is literally your face.

I don't jack off to zyzz. I believe steroids are unnecessary and that I can achieve what he did with "The Right Program" (I'm gonna do roids) and a little bit of "Hard Work" (Gonna poke that needle right into my fuckin ass) and oooh maybe some "Detication" (I'm gonna get buff doing the same set of curls at the same weight because I am on STEROIDS.)

It's hard to make the assertion that the gym increased his SMV, while he was also going through puberty. I'd argue that the changes in his face (caused by puberty) were responsible for the vast majority if not all of his ascension. When gymbros use Zyzz as an example, they frequently use 'before' pics of when he was like 14, lol.

I mean, look at the guys face in those 2 photos you posted. There's clearly massive changes there. A lower bodyfat percentage may have caused some of it (although he was not overweight by any means in the 'before' pic), but some was undoubtably caused simply by puberty, and you don't need to go to the gym to have a low body fat percentage anyway.

You didn't answer the question. The MUSCULAR ZYZZ GOT LAID MORE.

But was it the muscles, or was it the much improved face?
 
It wasn't one or the other. It was both.

No way to prove that. What we DO know however is that face is vastly more important to women than body is - if body even matters at all.

Studies have shown it's leanness rather than lots of muscle is more attractive to women. Now, anyone can get lean without going to the gym - and I'd suggest the leanness is more attractive primarily because it will also, in a lot of cases, lean out your face and increase the visibility of your bone structure.
 
But was it the muscles, or was it the much improved face?

Studies have shown
Did you say studies have shown? Checkmate mother fucker. Thanks for the idea. Here is the result of a SCIENTIFIC STUDY showing that women prefer stronger, buffer dudes. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29237852

So shut the fuck up. If you expect your worldview crafted in your basement to hold up entirely to real life you are a single digit IQ fakecel who could be maxing much more by lifting.

Get




Fucked.

To get started, feel free to check @Nibba 's gymceling mega thread, pinned at the top of the looksmaxing discussion. Good shit ;)(y)
 
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Did you say studies have shown? Checkmate mother fucker. Thanks for the idea. Here is the result of a SCIENTIFIC STUDY showing that women prefer stronger, buffer dudes. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29237852

So shut the fuck up. If you expect your worldview crafted in your basement to hold up entirely to real life you are a single digit IQ fakecel who could be maxing much more by lifting.

Get




Fucked.

To get started, feel free to check Nibba's gymceling mega thread, pinned at the top of the looksmaxing discussion. Good shit ;)(y)

It's unfortunate you guys only read the titles of academic studies not the actual study itself (or even the abstract), and then proceed to make smartarsed comments and embarass yourself.

Now, let's have a look at what this study ACTUALLY measured:

"Three sets of photographs of men's bodies were shown to raters who estimated either their physical strength or their attractiveness. Estimates of physical strength determined over 70% of men's bodily attractiveness. Additional analyses showed that tallness and leanness were also favoured, and, along with estimates of physical strength, accounted for 80% of men's bodily attractiveness."

So, it's not saying that body is important to women. What it's actually saying is that when faced with different body options, a foid rates a stronger and leaner one as more attractive. It does not say that this is a significant weighting regarding overall attractiveness.

It seems rather common sense that when looking at body alone, in isolation, with no other influencing factors, that the leaner, stronger one would be deemed more aesthetic. But that doesn't justify going to the gym, since you're going to have to first prove that body has a significant effect on the perception of attractiveness overall.

To put in in language that I suspect you'll understand, imagine a feature on a foid that you have a preference for, but it's not a big deal either way. Maybe you prefer blue eyed foids, or brown eyed foids, or green eyed foids etc. So if shown a picture of eyes alone, you'd pick the colour you prefer. However, that does not lead itself to a conclusion that 'eye colour is really important as a determiner of attractiveness' - it was simply the only variable that I showed you. In the real world, the eye colour will be almost irrelevant next to factors like face, hair, boobs, height, etc.
 
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It's unfortunate you guys only read the titles of academic studies not the actual study itself (or even the abstract), and then proceed to make smartarsed comments and embarass yourself.

Now, let's have a look at what this study ACTUALLY measured:

"Three sets of photographs of men's bodies were shown to raters who estimated either their physical strength or their attractiveness. Estimates of physical strength determined over 70% of men's bodily attractiveness. Additional analyses showed that tallness and leanness were also favoured, and, along with estimates of physical strength, accounted for 80% of men's bodily attractiveness."

So, it's not saying that body is important to women. What it's actually saying is that when faced with different body options, a foid rates a stronger and leaner one as more attractive. It does not say that this is a significant weighting regarding overall attractiveness.

It seems rather common sense that when looking at body alone, in isolation, with no other influencing factors, that the leaner, stronger one would be deemed more aesthetic. But that doesn't justify going to the gym, since you're going to have to first prove that body has a significant effect on the perception of attractiveness overall.

To put in in language that I suspect you'll understand, imagine a feature on a foid that you have a preference for, but it's not a big deal either way. Maybe you prefer blue eyed foids, or brown eyed foids, or green eyed foids etc. So if shown a picture of eyes alone, you'd pick the colour you prefer. However, that does not lead itself to a conclusion that 'eye colour is really important as a determiner of attractiveness' - it was simply the only variable that I showed you. In the real world, the eye colour will be almost irrelevant next to factors like face, hair, boobs, height, etc.
Women liked the buffer guy more. They have a preference for it, even if body is isolated it indicates that this is an ATTRACTIVE trait. It increases sexual value. If the hotter guy in that no-gym-for-your-face thread you did a day or two ago got jacked, He would be even hotter, and you seem to dispute this.
 
Women liked the buffer guy more. They have a preference for it, even if body is isolated it indicates that this is an ATTRACTIVE trait. It increases sexual value. If the hotter guy in that no-gym-for-your-face thread you did a day or two ago got jacked, He would be even hotter, and you seem to dispute this.

I'm suggesting that it's an irrelevant area of attractiveness, and so 'maxing' it won't actually improve your SMV one bit. It's like how, umm...clipping your toenails perfectly might be more 'asthetic' than a guy who doesn't, but it's ultimately entirely irrelevant to your attractiveness either way.

Just because I isolate one trait, and ask you which you prefer, it doesn't follow that this trait must be important. How can you not understand this?
 
You motherfucker. Nigger. Fuck you FAKECEL.

YOU HAVE BEEN ON 3 DATES?!?!?! WITH A WOMAN?!?!?! FAKECEL! FAKECEL! FILTHY FUCKING FAKECEL.

JFL if you think 5'10 isnt enough to get women. Yh its not as good as 6'-6'3, but the way you're talking is as if you're 5'4.

5'10 guys have sex all the time.
Sorry for the delayed response, had to let this post go through the quarantine to remove the autism.

>YOU HAVE BEEN ON 3 DATES?!?!?! WITH A WOMAN?!?!?! FAKECEL! FAKECEL! FILTHY FUCKING FAKECEL.
The first was at 17. She had never seen my face before we met. She was a friend of a friend (I miss having friends in HS). It was a "double date" at a bowling alley with an established couple. She barely talked to me, asked uninterested the entire time, then rejected me the next day. Pitiful. Had she seen my face I know she'd've never accepted the date. Received no sexual contact nor a second date.

The second was at 19. Again, she had never seen my face before we met. She was a pastor's daughter, which sounded like great news to me. Again, friend of a friend. She invited me over for thanksgiving dinner as a first date. She looked totally uninterested and I ended up talking to her father about football and her uncle about prog rock and prog metal more than her. Her dad made a black joke at the table and I burst out laughing and she dragged me upstairs and scolded me for embarrassing her. We went black friday shopping that night and I got dragged around with her retarded friends who hated me (feeling was mutual). Received no sexual contact and never saw her again.

The third was at 23, about 4 months ago. I was getting a new cell phone and she gave me her number out of nowhere. I thought this moment would be the ascension point. This one actually saw my face before the date so I was a little more "confident". She claimed to be a 25 year old elementary school teacher. We went to a coffee shop. We talked, she outed me as a right-wing Trump supporter (and was not impressed), got mad when I jokingly called him an alpha male, and constantly accused me of thinking she was too old (I did think that, but I never told her... she's likely been thrown around by many better looking men than I). At the end of the date, she accused me to my face of being autistic, which I denied accidentally out of the shock of being asked such a thing on a supposed "date". Asked for a second date, didn't get it. Didn't get any sexual contact.

Before you make ANY accusations of being a Chad after reading the part about the number giving, please consider that I got rejected for a second date and she stopped responding to me. I have the text logs to prove it. I know am IRL slayer (triple-digit n-count) and he said that when women ask men for numbers they're usually crazy, plus it was emasculating to which he agreed. On a side note, this was actually the first time I had sent a text to a non-family woman in 4 years so it was nice I guess, but w/e.

If you want this experience, by all means, take it. I'm a virgin 6 years+ past the average (I'm 23 approaching 24 all too fast), I have never had a GF nor a sexual experience. Muh 3 dates is your only hit on me, and it's weak-at-best because non of those lead to anything. 2 of those never saw my face before I met, so I only consider one of those dates even valid... and that one didn't go well.

>JFL if you think 5'10 isnt enough to get women. Yh its not as good as 6'-6'3, but the way you're talking is as if you're 5'4.
My only comment to this is that my younger brother (21) is a 6'2 facial clone of me (everyone calls me by his name even outside of the family) with pectis excavatum that makes his chest look fucked up and he had a big tiddy GF and I haven't. He was a fast food worker at the time, not even in college, while I have a STEM degree. He's even shyer and more "socially outcasted" than I (mainly because he is higher inhib than me). Wonder what the difference is? Hmm, it can't be that he's 6'2 and I'm 5'10. Must be confidence and personality.

>5'10 guys have sex all the time.
Somewhat true, but are these men having consistent monogamous sex? Only the top 20% are. There are some decent looking 5'10" men that can get an inconsistent lay with a used up landwhale, but that is cuckery lowering you below the status of an incel. That said, I have never rejected a woman so it may be presumptuous of me to say that.

Look at who gets monogamous virgin/chaste women. Not 5'10" 4/10s like me. I have a religious call to stay virgin until marriage so I'm stuck with this.

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Most of the people who accuse me of stupid shit are short bus kids in HS or early college who are edgy and have no idea the suffering and devastation being a 23 year old incel causes, or are some form of self-hating shitskin who fell for the CNN marketing scheme of "let's hate whitey whitey caused all my problems". I anticipate you are at least one. You have no idea what it's like to be as hopeless to ascend I as am; college and HS have passed me by. I am aging. Hold your tongue.
 
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I'm suggesting that it's an irrelevant area of attractiveness, and so 'maxing' it won't actually improve your SMV one bit. It's like how, umm...clipping your toenails perfectly might be more 'asthetic' than a guy who doesn't, but it's ultimately entirely irrelevant to your attractiveness either way.

Just because I isolate one trait, and ask you which you prefer, it doesn't follow that this trait must be important. How can you not understand this?
Dthsetdhet5h

Which one's hotter?

While I was staring at that beautiful fuckin twink for so long I noticed that this man is coping way too hard.

Haircut is clearly a cope. Lets give him something a little more modest.
Look at that facial hair! Nuh-uh. Will not do. See how it's darker closer to the jaw? BS. Chads are BORN, not made with fancy beards!
Oh god his flawless skin... Skin maxing is a meme. let me just add some blemishes.
The shirt is pretty basic, but lets be real here. Nobody is going to maintain that perfect v neck for more than a few months.
There we go: the Anti-Cope makeover.
Strhth

The third was at 23, about 4 months ago. I was getting a new cell phone and she gave me her number out of nowhere. I thought this moment would be the ascension point. This one actually saw my face before the date so I was a little more "confident". She claimed to be a 25 year old elementary school teacher. We went to a coffee shop. We talked, she outed me as a right-wing Trump supporter (and was not impressed), got mad when I jokingly called him an alpha male, and constantly accused me of thinking she was too old (I did think that, but I never told her... she's likely been thrown around by many better looking men than I). At the end of the date, she accused me to my face of being autistic, which I denied accidentally out of the shock of being asked such a thing on a supposed "date". Asked for a second date, didn't get it. Didn't get any sexual contact.
This was your only real date in which she actually saw you and knew what she was getting into. All the negatives here are because YOU fucked up, not your incel status or your looks. She's a teacher (all teachers are democrats) and you openly branded yourself as a trump supporter? (even as a joke.) Bad move. Try and NPC max and keep politics out of a first date for crying out loud. If she somehow assumed you're a trumpet, you got to maybe take off the MAGA hat and stop wearing the "CNN is fake news Obama turned my pet frog gay" tshirt from infowars.com.
 
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This was your only real date in which she actually saw you and knew what she was getting into. All the negatives here are because YOU fucked up, not your incel status or your looks. She's a teacher (all teachers are democrats) and you openly branded yourself as a trump supporter? (even as a joke.) Bad move. Try and NPC max and keep politics out of a first date for crying out loud. If she somehow assumed you're a trumpet, you got to maybe take off the MAGA hat and stop wearing the "CNN is fake news Obama turned my pet frog gay" tshirt from infowars.com.

Bait from another presumable kid I'll bite.

>She's a teacher (all teachers are democrats)

True, but I didn't know that she was a teacher until halfway thru the date. They tend to be blue-collar dems though whom are alot more bearable then the SJW dems.

>and you openly branded yourself as a trump supporter?

No. I wore fitting black jeans and a baseball shirt (Chris Sale, my favorite pitcher). Hair was spiked so no hat. Shoes were my flat DC shoes so they make me look like a short 5'10 as opposed the my boots which make me look a tall 5'10. May reconsider the shoes next time.

>Try and NPC max and keep politics out of a first date for crying out loud.
I didn't bring it up. She did. See below.

>If she somehow assumed you're a trumpet, you got to maybe take off the MAGA hat and stop wearing the "CNN is fake news Obama turned my pet frog gay" tshirt from infowars.com.

She asked to see my phone (we "met" at a phone store and wanted to see my new one, fair enough). As I was about to hand it over, it hit me that I had a Trump background (not a meme one, just a standard campaign one). Out of reaction, I pulled back. She got curious and asked if if was gay stuff (JFL). After a minute or two of her asking to see it I finally showed her and she was VERY unimpressed. The conversation stuck on that topic for about 10 minutes, including the alpha male response. Please... tell me how that's MY fault.

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This response is worse than than ones I would get while VRPing on /r/inceltears. Seriously. You did not factor in looks, or hell, even the wee bit that being NT matters. Nope, its politics bro. Those toxic right wingers man! I go to church with a guy that has a beautiful young wife, we love to talk right wing politics. Why is he married? Because he is tall and good looking. I am not. This isn't a hard concept boyo. GL men can do anything and get laid, ugly men can do anything and NOT get laid. You are clueless trash.

JUST BE LEFTIST BR00000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ORANGE MAN BAD -Wincel
 
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Yeah with more details I guess it wasn't 100% your fault. I did factor in looks by factoring out the dates that had no clue what you looked like, she literally asked you for your number. This is Elliot Rodger's dream come true but your politics ruined it. Yeah chad can believe whatever he wants but you can't afford to. I say learn from it and remove the phone background.

I'm a nazi right-winger btw.
 

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