I've given up on softmaxxing, I'm gonna use all my wagecuck dollars on hardmaxxing now

[Samiscool234]

1.5 years of leanmaxxing, mewing and 1 months of skincaremaxxing and I still look like a little bloated pimply untermensch at 65kg and 6'1, no changes in my skin, bones or facial leanness whatsoever from all this softmaxxing. And I can't get any lower it seems, no matter how hard I try. I am going to pay $200 AUD to get a consultation at a clinic called "Chelsea's Cosmetics" (I have to get this consultation before I can get any work done), and I think I am going to either get buccal fat removal for 4.5k or 4 ml 3 year long radiesse dermal filler face augmentation to the cheeks and jaw ($770/ml) as they recommended when I sent them pictures of my face. I sadly can't get bimax to fix my flat maxilla (I have basically no frontal cheekbone projection and a negative eye orbital) because it costs like $15k and I only have $7k in my account.

I am really scared of getting botched, can someone please give me advice about how I can avoid getting botched and if there's anything I should mention to the person during my consultation.

 

[pentamogged9000]

you arent trolling?

 

[Samiscool234]

you arent trolling?

What do you mean?

 

[Deleted member 32926]

bro what are you talking about you look like you've never even hit the gym man. Also did you workout your jaw in the first place? It dosen't look like it man don't do surgeries when you haven't put the real work in

 

[Samiscool234]

bro what are you talking about you look like you've never even hit the gym man. Also did you workout your jaw in the first place? It dosen't look like it man don't do surgeries when you haven't put the real work in

I have
I have chewed mastic gum for 6 months and my masseter muscles are still very small

 

[Deleted member 18879]

yah as expected you are way more normal looking than me. i have people double-taking at me due to how repulsive i am.

 

[eduardkoopman]

1.5 years of leanmaxxing,

what your bf%?

mewing

mewing = cope. it only helps for keeping good teeth health and not descending more ugly. It doesn't ascend no-one

and 1 months of skincaremaxxing

ngl, that can take longer. And it for sure takes a few months, to find the perfect regime for ones own skin. And after that, it takes a few months, for it to fully ascend. skin, is constant work in progree or maintaining efforts

am really scared of getting botched, can someone please give me advice about how I can avoid getting botched and if there's anything I should mention to the person during my consultation.

hardmaxxing can really ascend a person. BUT, softmaxxing first needs to be on point and consistent. Makes no sense to go hardmaxxing, when one sucks at softmaxxing still

 

[Deleted member 32926]

I have
I have chewed mastic gum for 6 months and my masseter muscles are still very small

for jaw the best for me were these squeezers you chew. also you aren't ugly bro you, you need to workout your neck & traps and skincaremax. Don't do surgeries especially if you don't have money for them

 

[GalacticHero]

I know someone who looks similar to you but looks great due to his long wavy hair, grow your hair and get a wavy perm otherwise you gonna look look like npc with your current haircut.

 

[Deleted member 18879]

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I know someone who looks similar to you but looks great due to his long wavy hair, grow your hair and get a wavy perm otherwise you gonna look look like npc with your current haircut.

OP's only real falios are narrow face he is forward grown enough to the point where people won't notice his PSL-tier 'recession'

 

[GalacticHero]

I had similar journey to you with leanmaxxing, I still looked bloated with extremly skinny physique, I decided to give up on it and just bulkmaxx to grow my bones in case I can.

 

[Samiscool234]

what your bf%?

I dont know my body fat percentage. People give me different answers

9.1% body fat but still boneless, should I keep leanmaxxing?

Just looked at my BMI, it says I'm 9.1% bodyfat at 65kg. And yet I don't have hollow cheeks, I look absolutely boneless. Even my arms/chest don't look boney I'm wondering if I should just keep leanmaxxing until I look like Jordan barrett and get hollow cheeks. I'd have to eat even less...

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ngl, that can take longer. And it for sure takes a few months, to find the perfect regime for ones own skin. And after that, it takes a few months, for it to fully ascend. skin, is constant work in progree or maintaining efforts

Maybe. I have a lot of sun damage however so I don't know if that's reverse able and I don't know if I can truly get good skin

hardmaxxing can really ascend a person. BUT, softmaxxing first needs to be on point and consistent. Makes no sense to go hardmaxxing, when one sucks at softmaxxing still

I know what I look like if my softmaxxing was on point (refer to the picture in the thread linked above; in that picture I used the bold glamour filter which cleared up my skin and thickened my eyebrows). I have realised even if I do manage to do all that I won't look amazing because of my long midface and my flat maxilla and my narrow jaw. I need to hardmaxx if I want to become htn or higher.

 

[Samiscool234]

I had similar journey to you with leanmaxxing, I still looked bloated with extremly skinny physique, I decided to give up on it and just bulkmaxx to grow my bones in case I can.

The bones basically stop growing at 18 and I'm 20 so I won't get any better bones

 

[Samiscool234]

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I know someone who looks similar to you but looks great due to his long wavy hair, grow your hair and get a wavy perm otherwise you gonna look look like npc with your current haircut.

How do I get a perm like that

 

[Deleted member 8758]

Shit.....you remind me of me

Your face is downshifted from the peak of the skull. Bimax and other meme surgeries wont fix it. ALL this hardmaxxing is a meme without base.

Take care of that hairline, fill in those corners with hair transplant. FUCKING HAIRLINEMAXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

 

[Samiscool234]

for jaw the best for me were these squeezers you chew. also you aren't ugly bro you, you need to workout your neck & traps and skincaremax. Don't do surgeries especially if you don't have money for them

I ordered some squeezers 2 months ago but they never came and I have tried to work on my traps by doing 3 sets 15 reps of neck lifts everyday but I don't get any growth
I think I have some sort of muscular disorder because I don't understand how my muscles aren't growing whatsoever

 

[Samiscool234]

Your face is downshifted from the peak of the skull. Bimax and other meme surgeries wont fix it. ALL this hardmaxxing is a meme without base.

Can you elaborate on this with pictures I don't understand

 

[eduardkoopman]

I dont know my body fat percentage. People give me different answers

9.1% body fat but still boneless, should I keep leanmaxxing?

Just looked at my BMI, it says I'm 9.1% bodyfat at 65kg. And yet I don't have hollow cheeks, I look absolutely boneless. Even my arms/chest don't look boney I'm wondering if I should just keep leanmaxxing until I look like Jordan barrett and get hollow cheeks. I'd have to eat even less...

looksmax.org

BMI = cope.
all that counts, is bodyfat percentage.
looking at that pic. I estimate you around the 15% bodyfat percenatge range. You would ascend in SMV significantly, with more muscle mass (never bulk and add fat). ideally you would also lose some fat. like 3% to 5% minimum. Having more muscle mass = more bruning of callories in rest = easier to diet/deficit callories.

Maybe. I have a lot of sun damage however so I don't know if that's reverse able and I don't know if I can truly get good skin

learn, and trial and arror. is the only way, to get to good skincare rpoutine, when having sensitive/difficult skin

I know what I look like if my softmaxxing was on point

IF?
why it not on point?

I have realised even if I do manage to do all that I won't look amazing

do it anyways.
stupid way of thinking, to not do it.

because of my long midface and my flat maxilla and my narrow jaw. I need to hardmaxx if I want to become htn or higher.

do it all anyways. stop the cope, of failing at softmaxxing.
it's time to: get clear skinmaxxed.
add muscle mass.
and get to real 10% bodyfat ranges, being a shredded cunt

 

[Deleted member 8758]

Can you elaborate on this with pictures I don't understand

Loose Shelf theory of Downgrowth

Too much foreward growth of the face itself without the cranial bone support leads to downswinging. Imagine having a single shelf on the wall and the dry wall screws are getting bent from the weight on the "foreward grown" front end, this is your face without adequate "wall" support. Your poor...

looksmax.org

Basically your face is melting downwards relative to your head skull cap.

 

[Darktriadmax]

buy testosterone

 

[Samiscool234]

buy testosterone

I'm taking t drive pills. I've tried every softmaxxing trick in the book and nothing works

 

[GalacticHero]

How do I get a perm like that

Perms aren’t common in the us?

 

[Deleted member 32926]

I ordered some squeezers 2 months ago but they never came and I have tried to work on my traps by doing 3 sets 15 reps of neck lifts everyday but I don't get any growth
I think I have some sort of muscular disorder because I don't understand how my muscles aren't growing whatsoever

I don't think you have any muscular disorder, you just don't train efficiently.

So I recommend you for neck and traps this:

Traps:
Heavy day - you do 5 sets 5RM (rep max) of shrugs

Stretch day - you do 5 sets 8RM of shrugs, but you control eccentric movement (on the way down) for 5 sec. You can cheat concentric (up) to gain extra eccentric reps.

Pump day - you do 5 sets 60RM of shrugs. Use light weights but make sure you reach absolute failure. Fast reps. It's going to burn as hell. On the last 10 reps squeeze the muscle to gain that extra pump.

Additionally you can add farmer walks if you manage your recovery on point.
For traps you won't take rest days, so you go:
Heavy, Pump, Pump, Stretch, Heavy, Pump, Stretch

Neck:

So for neck you obviously can't go too heavy so you do:
Pump, Pump, Stretch, Pump, Pump, Stretch, Stretch
Don't go to failure
For neck you can do neck curls, neck extension etc. you can use plates or buy neck harness.

And for masseter muscles just order squeezers and train them hard (but not too much!!)

After 4 weeks you HAVE to get 1-2 weeks off gym completely, avoid any hard exercises. It's called nucleus overload.

Make sure to recover properly.

This HSP split is very effective for me, but if you want to do it for full body then don't exceed 3 days a week if your recovery isn't great.

 

[Nebula]

can u post normal front pic instead of looking down like a sad little cunt