I’ve never seen a good response from a Christian on why god inflicts so much suffering into the natural world

[WELOVELOOKS]

And I’ve listened, I’ve kept an open mind for an explanation to the question

0 people have ever answered this question with a response that objectively resonated with me. That’s also not to say, some explanations of god DO make sense to me. I’m never being biased here

The book of job even tries to explain this

All it is is vague, metaphoric nonsense

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Ok

 

[nuisance]

Name a suffering god placed on humans

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Name a suffering god placed on humans

The Blackpill

 

[nuisance]

The Blackpill

The black pill is manmade suffering. Generations of poor eating habits and lifestyle, chemicals in the air and water affecting each generation's looks, and a man-made social media based hypergamous society.

God didnt come down and make you an incel you and your ancestors failures did

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

Name a suffering god placed on humans

Do I actually have to bother listing what suffering humans go through, you know that little bro. God created EVERYTHING, correct?

If he didn’t, who created the natural process of evolution it just randomly popped about? He didn’t create the idea of cancer? The idea of natural disasters that kill 4 year olds? Oh right, god just created all the good things right! What are you trying to ask man? You know what suffering humans go through. We don’t even have to talk about humans though, I like the question that a big atheistic debater talks about; why create animals that kill each other as a process for them to survive even? Why not make animals herbivores. Why do these unaware beings who live completely on instinct born to suffer to excruciatingly?

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

The black pill is manmade suffering. Generations of poor eating habits and lifestyle, chemicals in the air and water affecting each generation's looks, and a man-made social media based hypergamous society.

God didnt come down and make you an incel you and your ancestors failures did

Are you trying to say the blackpill is just an evolutionary response to people becoming uglier, just lmaooo. Who made it so the gas that is exhausted in the air causes cancer?

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

The black pill is manmade suffering. Generations of poor eating habits and lifestyle, chemicals in the air and water affecting each generation's looks, and a man-made social media based hypergamous society.

God didnt come down and make you an incel you and your ancestors failures did

Nothing happens without the permission of God

 

[Kiril Velev]

Do I actually have to bother listing what suffering humans go through, you know that little bro. God created EVERYTHING, correct?

If he didn’t, who created the natural process of evolution it just randomly popped about? He didn’t create the idea of cancer? The idea of natural disasters that kill 4 year olds? Oh right, god just created all the good things right! What are you trying to ask man? You know what suffering humans go through. We don’t even have to talk about humans though, I like the question that a big atheistic debater talks about; why create animals that kill each other as a process for them to survive even? Why not make animals herbivores. Why do these unaware beings who live completely on instinct born to suffer to excruciatingly?

are you retarded nga

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

are you retarded nga

Yeah good response bud you really got me, not sure how to argue with that one. You really found the flaw in my logic

 

[Kiril Velev]

Yeah good response bud you really got me, not sure how to argue with that one. You really found the flaw in my logic

Yeah good response bud you really got me, not sure how to argue with that one. You really found the flaw in my logic

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

Yeah good response bud you really got me, not sure how to argue with that one. You really found the flaw in my logic

Retard

 

[nuisance]

Do I actually have to bother listing what suffering humans go through, you know that little bro. God created EVERYTHING, correct?

If he didn’t, who created the natural process of evolution it just randomly popped about? He didn’t create the idea of cancer? The idea of natural disasters that kill 4 year olds? Oh right, god just created all the good things right! What are you trying to ask man? You know what suffering humans go through. We don’t even have to talk about humans though, I like the question that a big atheistic debater talks about; why create animals that kill each other as a process for them to survive even? Why not make animals herbivores. Why do these unaware beings who live completely on instinct born to suffer to excruciatingly?

Are you trying to say the blackpill is just an evolutionary response to people becoming uglier, just lmaooo. Who made it so the gas that is exhausted in the air causes cancer?

Does anybody know why there is a mechanism for cancer? No, that doesn't change the fact that humans caused the cancer in themselves. God doesn't come down and inflict cancer on a person. Same thing with natural disasters, humans chose to live near a flood zone, a landslide zone, that was their decision, even though they might not have known the danger, God didnt come down and strike the mountain.

The suffering the black pill creates is created by us, we did the research we people created this society, and we promote these ideas online.

I think a better question to ask is Why does god not intervene in the world, But then that would limit our free will a bit.

 

[Kiril Velev]

Retard

okay nigger rage baiting aside tell me I am curious what meaning or point would anything in this world have by itself without relativism at all say there was no suffering and all the bad stuff out there

 

[nuisance]

Nothing happens without the permission of God

god limits his power to give us free will

 

[SvtvnTr14d]

And I’ve listened, I’ve kept an open mind for an explanation to the question

0 people have ever answered this question with a response that objectively resonated with me. That’s also not to say, some explanations of god DO make sense to me. I’m never being biased here

The book of job even tries to explain this

All it is is vague, metaphoric nonsense

@subhuman1996 could try

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

god limits his power to give us free will

What does 3 year olds dying of brain cancer have to do with free will why is that necessary to have free will. The only thing we need to have free will is being able to do bad things, which we already are. All of these other little horrible processes of the natural universe aren’t even remotely necessary to have free will

Does anybody know why there is a mechanism for cancer? No, that doesn't change the fact that humans caused the cancer in themselves. God doesn't come down and inflict cancer on a person. Same thing with natural disasters, humans chose to live near a flood zone, a landslide zone, that was their decision, even though they might not have known the danger, God didnt come down and strike the mountain.

The suffering the black pill creates is created by us, we did the research we people created this society, and we promote these ideas online.

I think a better question to ask is Why does god not intervene in the world, But then that would limit our free will a bit.

so you know where humans came from for sure (god’s image) but you’re not sure where every single other biological process comes from? So god didn’t create the universe, he just created humans and the universe was already in existence apart from god? That’s the best argument you could make. Even if he JUST created the human body, the amount of suffering the human body goes through isn’t necessary for free will. Why would would we have all these negative harmful biological processes if god created humans? So now let’s widdle it down even more, u wanna say god just created the human consciousness? Again this is the best place your argument could go. But NONE of these resonate with any depiction of god in the Bible. He is supposed to be omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, AND Omnibenevolent. Let’s even talk about how being all these things at the same time is literally an undeniable logical fallacy

 

[TiktokUser]

What does 3 year olds dying of brain cancer have to do with free will why is that necessary to have free will. The only thing we need to have free will is being able to do bad things, which we already are. All of these other little horrible processes of the natural universe aren’t even remotely necessary to have free will

so you know where humans came from for sure (god’s image) but you’re not sure where every single other biological process comes from? So god didn’t create the universe, he just created humans and the universe was already in existence apart from god? That’s the best argument you could make. Even if he JUST created the human body, the amount of suffering the human body goes through isn’t necessary for free will. Why would would we have all these negative harmful biological processes if god created humans? So now let’s widdle it down even more, u wanna say god just created the human consciousness? Again this is the best place your argument could go. But NONE of these resonate with any depiction of god in the Bible. He is supposed to be omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, AND Omnibenevolent. Let’s even talk about how being all these things at the same time is literally an undeniable logical fallacy

good thread

reminds me of this one (ignore title lol)

Religious people are fucking retarded. A disgrace of human beings.

I cannot relax knowing that there are people out there thanking their god everyday for making a beautiful world to live in. Do you realize that in this reality, pain is way greater than pleasure? If we put it in a number scale, pain is 400+ and pleasure is just 50. Not even 50/50. What kind...

looksmax.org

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

god limits his power to give us free will

It’s impossible for god to limit his power, it’s a logical fallacy. He is supposed to be omnipotent which is all powerful: if he can limit his power he is NOT omnipotent. It’s literally a contradiction

 

[nuisance]

What does 3 year olds dying of brain cancer have to do with free will why is that necessary to have free will. The only thing we need to have free will is being able to do bad things, which we already are. All of these other little horrible processes of the natural universe aren’t even remotely necessary to have free will

so you know where humans came from for sure (god’s image) but you’re not sure where every single other biological process comes from? So god didn’t create the universe, he just created humans and the universe was already in existence apart from god? That’s the best argument you could make. Even if he JUST created the human body, the amount of suffering the human body goes through isn’t necessary for free will. Why would would we have all these negative harmful biological processes if god created humans? So now let’s widdle it down even more, u wanna say god just created the human consciousness? Again this is the best place your argument could go. But NONE of these resonate with any depiction of god in the Bible. He is supposed to be omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, AND Omnibenevolent. Let’s even talk about how being all these things at the same time is literally an undeniable logical fallacy

What did the three year old child eat, what chemicals was the child exposed to god didn’t come down and give the kid cancer. Why doesn’t god come down and heal the kid, I don’t know but god did not inflict that sufferings

I’m arguing with a more agnostic view, we can go into Christianity.

Sin entered the world when Adam and Eve sin, the ground is cursed sin is twisted, mutating, and corrupting. It corrupts biological processes, twists minds mutates cells. Negative emotions are created, Adam and Eve clothes themselves because they are ashamed of their nakedness suddenly.

This sin was the fault of humans, and the humans themselves are full of sin creating more and more suffering wherever they go.

God could have left the humans left them to die, he didn’t owe them anything they betrayed him and chose to do on their own volition but he gave them a path to redemption path to eternal life where sin is no more, no sin=no suffering.

Even when I switch from an agnostic view to the Christian view it stays the same, god didn’t inflict the suffering humans did it to themselves. And the faults of your ancestors affect you today.

People think of god as a loving genie in a bottle, the reality is god could have left or even smited humans but he stayed and gave them a path to choose to dwell with him forever.

 

[nuisance]

It’s impossible for god to limit his power, it’s a logical fallacy. He is supposed to be omnipotent which is all powerful: if he can limit his power he is NOT omnipotent. It’s literally a contradiction

Was a poor choice of words, it’s more about choosing to act in certain boundaries not limiting actual power.

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

What did the three year old child eat, what chemicals was the child exposed to god didn’t come down and give the kid cancer. Why doesn’t god come down and heal the kid, I don’t know but god did not inflict that sufferings

I’m arguing with a more agnostic view, we can go into Christianity.

Sin entered the world when Adam and Eve sin, the ground is cursed sin is twisted, mutating, and corrupting. It corrupts biological processes, twists minds mutates cells. Negative emotions are created, Adam and Eve clothes themselves because they are ashamed of their nakedness suddenly.

This sin was the fault of humans, and the humans themselves are full of sin creating more and more suffering wherever they go.

God could have left the humans left them to die, he didn’t owe them anything they betrayed him and chose to do on their own volition but he gave them a path to redemption path to eternal life where sin is no more, no sin=no suffering.

Even when I switch from an agnostic view to the Christian view it stays the same, god didn’t inflict the suffering humans did it to themselves. And the faults of your ancestors affect you today.

People think of god as a loving genie in a bottle, the reality is god could have left or even smited humans but he stayed and gave them a path to choose to dwell with him forever.

Yeah argument over, you lost bro, I’m not gonna respond to questions that aren’t even remotely an answer to anything. Your argument is a “red herring” or a non sequitur, AND an appeal to ignorance all in one

You’re just using theological justification too. This is why I’d say Christians devote their lives into something they can’t even understand themselves. Why would you ever devote yourself to something that can’t even be explained and why couldn’t a perfect being (Jesus) ever explain any of these fallacies to keep the faith strong in god?

The only explanations in the Bible of these things (like in the book of job) is just word salad obscure explanations that don’t even really have extremely sound argument

I’d think a divine being would be better at convincing me of something

 

[Nebelix28]

So we can have a free will?

 

[certifiedeskimo]

well then youd have to explain why he cant have a morally sound reason for doing so, which is impossible to do

 

[thepathsdontremembe]

The Blackpill

you could have said the nature of humans

 

[Gamerspyy786]

I’m not a Christian but I can tell u the Islamic perspective

Life is a test, both good and bad must exist for you to a knowledge one or the other. If everything in this life was good we wouldn’t know bad. Vice versa.

Its not that god inflicts pain upon others, but it is the free will that humans have and we can chose to do good or bad, and everything that we do in life will be accounted for on the day of judgement. Even shamelessly killing small insects, without good reason (fear for your own safety)

You might ask well why does cancer and these kinds of things exist? Why would God want to “punish” (although not the correct word, but the thought process behind many atheists) people? It’s all apart of the test of life. God does not burden a soul with more than it can bear. Sickness must exist for good health to be identified. God wants you to worship him alone and these terrible things people are inflicted with could lead them closer to God. Nobody in this life lives life on easy mode. Even Chad can get hit by a bus and be paralyzed for life. Or a Chad can suffer extreme mental health issues and you’d never know.

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

well then youd have to explain why he cant have a morally sound reason for doing so, which is impossible to do

What are you on about bro? Why it’s morally wrong to kill a 5 year old with natural processes?

How is this morally sound? That’s not up for me to prove to you, everybody knows that making people sick, and killing children is bad

U trying to say that just because he created something, he has the right to brutally murder it just causes he’s fucking “god”? Wow bro!

What’s the difference between that, and me creating a clone of myself and torturing for months until it dies? It’s my creation, I have the right to destroy it right?

Let’s even go as far to say I can upload the clones consciousness on an artificial drive that uploads to an artificial heaven. Am I god at that point? I’m creating life, what makes me different exactly?

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

I’m not a Christian but I can tell u the Islamic perspective

Life is a test, both good and bad must exist for you to a knowledge one or the other. If everything in this life was good we wouldn’t know bad. Vice versa.

Its not that god inflicts pain upon others, but it is the free will that humans have and we can chose to do good or bad, and everything that we do in life will be accounted for on the day of judgement. Even shamelessly killing small insects, without good reason (fear for your own safety)

You might ask well why does cancer and these kinds of things exist? Why would God want to “punish” (although not the correct word, but the thought process behind many atheists) people? It’s all apart of the test of life. God does not burden a soul with more than it can bear. Sickness must exist for good health to be identified. God wants you to worship him alone and these terrible things people are inflicted with could lead them closer to God. Nobody in this life lives life on easy mode. Even Chad can get hit by a bus and be paralyzed for life. Or a Chad can suffer extreme mental health issues and you’d never know.

God damn bro, again every single argument that I’ve seen here just has so many holes in them. So many logical fallacies, and false dichotomy’s.

It’s not logically true that good cannot exist without bad, there is no sound reason for this. both of you that I’m talking to right now completely fall flat to explain or understand this

Read my other arguments and the thread before commenting because I’ve already gone over a lot of these topics I don’t wanna repeat myself

Free will only explain moral evil

 

[nuisance]

Yeah argument over, you lost bro, I’m not gonna respond to questions that aren’t even remotely an answer to anything. Your argument is a “red herring” or a non sequitur, AND an appeal to ignorance all in one

You’re just using theological justification too. This is why I’d say Christians devote their lives into something they can’t even understand themselves. Why would you ever devote yourself to something that can’t even be explained and why couldn’t a perfect being (Jesus) ever explain any of these fallacies to keep the faith strong in god?

The only explanations in the Bible of these things (like in the book of job) is just word salad obscure explanations that don’t even really have extremely sound argument

I’d think a divine being would be better at convincing me of something

Your asking Christian’s why god inflicts suffering on the world and then you get mad about the theological explanation lol.

Christianity is entirely faith based god doesn’t appear to Christian’s every Sunday service. I can’t bring Jesus on a face time call to back points up.

It’s comical how you say you devote yourself to something that cannot be explained when you do the same, atheism is a religion in itself.

Biblically you are scum of the earth, yet god had mercy on humans and gave them a path to a life of no suffering, god doesnt have to convince you of nothing just like he told job "Who are you to question my wisdom with your ignorant, empty words?" You put yourself to high.

You don’t know the full picture atheists don’t know but they belive in their ideology, Christian’s don’t know, but they believe. So how can you say you lost. Nobody wins until we find out or cease to exist.

 

[omnis]

And I’ve listened, I’ve kept an open mind for an explanation to the question

0 people have ever answered this question with a response that objectively resonated with me. That’s also not to say, some explanations of god DO make sense to me. I’m never being biased here

The book of job even tries to explain this

All it is is vague, metaphoric nonsense

But but but he gave us free will!! It’s our fault!! An all mighty god can’t stop free will!

 

[certifiedeskimo]

What are you on about bro? Why it’s morally wrong to kill a 5 year old with natural processes?

How is this morally sound? That’s not up for me to prove to you, everybody knows that making people sick, and killing children is bad

U trying to say that just because he created something, he has the right to brutally murder it just causes he’s fucking “god”? Wow bro!

What’s the difference between that, and me creating a clone of myself and torturing for months until it dies? It’s my creation, I have the right to destroy it right?

Let’s even go as far to say I can upload the clones consciousness on an artificial drive that uploads to an artificial heaven. Am I god at that point? I’m creating life, what makes me different exactly?

"its obviously wrong" isnt an argument nigger youre just asserting that. stupid analogy I wont even reply to, youre not god

 

[noobkiller999]

idk why u asking this question on incel forum,low iq ngl

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

Your asking Christian’s why god inflicts suffering on the world and then you get mad about the theological explanation lol.

Christianity is entirely faith based god doesn’t appear to Christian’s every Sunday service. I can’t bring Jesus on a face time call to back points up.

It’s comical how you say you devote yourself to something that cannot be explained when you do the same, atheism is a religion in itself.

Biblically you are scum of the earth, yet god had mercy on humans and gave them a path to a life of no suffering, god doesnt have to convince you of nothing just like he told job "Who are you to question my wisdom with your ignorant, empty words?" You put yourself to high.

You don’t know the full picture atheists don’t know but they belive in their ideology, Christian’s don’t know, but they believe. So how can you say you lost. Nobody wins until we find out or cease to exist.

Straw man argument, ur proving my point here.

“You can’t expect logic or evidence from faith”

you just complete concede to my point. So I am right, theology does NOT have a logical answer to suffering.

I am NOT asking for proof of god’s existence, just the validity in within its claims. You just redirect the argument every time, and constantly deflect.

Argument over

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

"its obviously wrong" isnt an argument nigger youre just asserting that. stupid analogy I wont even reply to, youre not god

You’re calling me retarded but you need a fake imaginary friend in the sky to know that it’s wrong to kill children

“Stupid analogy” yet doesn’t explain why, or how

Yeah get out my thread low iq christtard, I’m not here to argue with special ed people

 

[Gamerspyy786]

God damn bro, again every single argument that I’ve seen here just has so many holes in them. So many logical fallacies, and false dichotomy’s.

It’s not logically true that good cannot exist without bad, there is no sound reason for this. both of you that I’m talking to right now completely fall flat to explain or understand this

Read my other arguments and the thread before commenting because I’ve already gone over a lot of these topics I don’t wanna repeat myself

Free will only explain moral evil

There’s actually logical basis behind that. It’s called dualism. There has to be an opposite effect for everything to know what is what. How would people know who a short man is if everyone was tall? It would be inexplainable. Or a good looking man if everyone was ugly? There has to be polar opposites to these things to understand the world that we live in. If the world was constantly hot we wouldn’t know how a cold temperature would feel like. U could go on and on.

Can u explain why u think good can exist without evil?

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

idk why u asking this question on incel forum,low iq ngl

Yeah a genuinely intelligent person here is actually extremely rare, yet all the dudes here think they’re so hyper aware of the reality of the world to even call themselves “blackpilled” as if they have some esoteric knowledge of how the world works, but they are clearly so fucking stupid

 

[nuisance]

Straw man argument, ur proving my point here.

“You can’t expect logic or evidence from faith”

you just complete concede to my point. So I am right, theology does NOT have a logical answer to suffering.

I am NOT asking for proof of god’s existence, just the validity in within its claims. You just redirect the argument every time, and constantly deflect.

Argument over

The sin=suffering is fairly logical answer, we just have some details missing. We aren’t owed an explanation for those missing details.

 

[gunrenaissance]

Name a suffering god placed on humans

Kys

 

[gunrenaissance]

Name a suffering god placed on humans

He gave me a recessed maxilla

 

[certifiedeskimo]

You’re calling me retarded but you need a fake imaginary friend in the sky to know that it’s wrong to kill children

“Stupid analogy” yet doesn’t explain why, or how

Yeah get out my thread low iq christtard, I’m not here to argue with special ed people

nice cop out btw
I said why your analogy was stupid fucking dipshit, torturing a clone is morally condemnable by OUR standard

"its obviously wrong" isnt an argument nigger youre just asserting that. stupid analogy I wont even reply to, youre not god

 

[nuisance]

He gave me a recessed maxilla

Low iq, your diet did. Your ancestors diet

 

[gunrenaissance]

Low iq, your diet did. Your ancestors diet

Unironically tho
Anyone who believes in the bp knows how unfair it is
Life is all about luck, were you born with the right genes? Are your parents smart/rich? And even where you were born (which influences heavily the religion you belong to, and if you were born in the wrong region, thats hell for you boyo)
if God existed it wouldn't be unfair

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

There’s actually logical basis behind that. It’s called dualism. There has to be an opposite effect for everything to know what is what. How would people know who a short man is if everyone was tall? It would be inexplainable. Or a good looking man if everyone was ugly? There has to be polar opposites to these things to understand the world that we live in. If the world was constantly hot we wouldn’t know how a cold temperature would feel like. U could go on and on.

Can u explain why u think good can exist without evil?

That is not dualism bro, that’s a completely different thing that’s solely a spiritual thing. I don’t think u know what dualism is

Even if the concept of “good and evil” helps us understand the contrast of life, that doesn’t suffering has to exist

Youre claiming that humans think in contrast, ur not proving why its necessary for god to have suffering

 

[nuisance]

Unironically tho
Anyone who believes in the bp knows how unfair it is
Life is all about luck, were you born with the right genes? Are your parents smart/rich? And even where you were born (which influences heavily the religion you belong to, and if you were born in the wrong region, thats hell for you boyo)
if God existed it wouldn't be unfair

Your genes we’re influenced by your ancestors lives and choices.

Why do you think god owes you anything? What makes you so important. Be grateful he had mercy and gave you a choice to choose because he could have smited you.

 

[Gamerspyy786]

That is not dualism bro, that’s a completely different thing that’s solely a spiritual thing. I don’t think u know what dualism is

Even if the concept of “good and evil” helps us understand the contrast of life, that doesn’t suffering has to exist

Youre claiming that humans think in contrast, ur not proving why its necessary for god to have suffering

Suffering is a broad spectrum then. Your idea of suffering could be just another persons “life experience”. You could say being an incel is suffering but another could say it’s good and they believe it’s good due to what they believe in. So what exactly are you saying “suffering” is?

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

nice cop out btw
I said why your analogy was stupid fucking dipshit, torturing a clone is morally condemnable by OUR standard

You didn’t explain shit, and I explained everything I’m saying. You come off as an absolute low iq retard bro, go back to school. You just dismiss everything I say and just claim I’m wrong with no reasoning. I hope ur a child bro, grow the fuck up. Sperg ass nigga

Saying I’m not god does not address the logic

I never claimed to be god, nor was I even saying that.

Your analogy fails because you’re trying to excuse behavior by invoking divine authority instead of reasoning. By that logic, any creator that’s human or divine could justify torturing their creation, and morality would no longer exist.

Shit argument, again rein-roll in school if you’re not already late on your homework Timmy

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

Care to explain your “hmm” to my reply there, I’d like to know where youre confused since you’re monitoring this thread actively @TiktokUser

 

[certifiedeskimo]

You didn’t explain shit, and I explained everything I’m saying. You come off as an absolute low iq retard bro, go back to school. You just dismiss everything I say and just claim I’m wrong with no reasoning. I hope ur a child bro, grow the fuck up. Sperg ass nigga

Saying I’m not god does not address the logic

I never claimed to be god, nor was I even saying that.

Your analogy fails because you’re trying to excuse behavior by invoking divine authority instead of reasoning. By that logic, any creator that’s human or divine could justify torturing their creation, and morality would no longer exist.

Shit argument, again rein-roll in school if you’re not already late on your homework Timmy

you keep yapping nigga. you apply our standards to god, your analogy is assuming he abides by the same moral standards as us. it is now your responsibility to prove a moral standard that is above god and independant from god. go back to reddit blud with all this "muh iq" its pathetic

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

you keep yapping nigga. you apply our standards to god, your analogy is assuming he abides by the same moral standards as us. it is now your responsibility to prove a moral standard that is above god and independant from god. go back to reddit blud with all this "muh iq" its pathetic

Shit arguments as usual, I was completely right with the title here. I can’t believe you actually believe this shit yourself you can’t even make sense of what you’re even saying

I can use a different word than iq if you’d like, obviously it’s just a fun of saying you’re an incredibly stupid person with dogshit arguments

You just shift the goalpost, claiming that god is exempt from the rules that he apparently created

I’m not just randomly applying human standards, these are fucking GODS PROCLAIMED STANDARDS AND APPARENT ATTRIBUTES YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD

Probably won’t reply to your next retard claim full of shitty arguments that have 0 reasoning or logic to them. You just claim shit argument over

 

[certifiedeskimo]

Shit arguments as usual, I was completely right with the title here. I can’t believe you actually believe this shit yourself you can’t even make sense of what you’re even saying

I can use a different word than iq if you’d like, obviously it’s just a fun of saying you’re an incredibly stupid person with dogshit arguments

You just shift the goalpost, claiming that god is exempt from the rules that he apparently created

I’m not just randomly applying human standards, these are fucking GODS PROCLAIMED STANDARDS AND APPARENT ATTRIBUTES YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD

Probably won’t reply to your next retard claim full of shitty arguments that have 0 reasoning or logic to them. You just claim shit argument over

you just dont understand. you cant call god immoral if he is your source of morality. lets hear your argument for a moral standard that is independant of him