Ive started to become more liberal

[iblamexyz]

He ignored mine

JFL I spoke with him on discord

and he had the biggest ego

''I knew you would bring up the bible''

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Thots on raw meat from a nutritional standpoint?

Oh wait you said raw

Some minor enzymes and such are broken down through cooking process but to eat raw meat it must be sourced very well

The differences in nutrition are not worth the effort and cost of high quality raw meat

 

[Quncho]

Oh wait you said raw

Some minor enzymes and such are broken down through cooking process but to eat raw meat it must be sourced very well

The differences in nutrition are not worth the effort and cost of high quality raw meat

Yeah that's what I was thinking but I'm being gaslit by raw meat enthusiasts so I'm forcing myself to make a thread on raw meat (ass or good?) . Will tag u

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

He ignored mine

Nigga I just didn't see it

there is evidence

you just don't like the evidence which is presented to you

You were probably low iq I don't remember

Go ahead and give me one singular irrefutable evidence that God existed or whatever your claim is

And idk if I told you this in Discord, I do think Jesus was literally a divine prophet, and I'm not an atheist, but adhering to every line in the Bible is fucking stupid and heaven and hell are too, niggas were too stupid to understand Jesus

 

[Dhoriscol]

This is just individualism, you do things society tells you to do and as long as you are not directly hurt you'll accept the situation around you as "tolerable" or even normal, you can spin any situation around to make it seem logical when if you were to live through it you would never tolerate such behaviour
If you were to shoot a sub 40 IQ man because he's not smart enough to understand anything then is that "bad"? Is your framework for something being bad the legality of it? If it's not "bad" to kill said man then when do you draw the line? 50 IQ is better so should that be the baseline? Why not 60?
The truth is that individualistic mindsets can only be part of a very small minority of people who have no quarrel with the local degeneration of their society, it's a very "if" dependant philosophy, there's no world in which trannies aren't going to groom children because they hate themselves and they hate those around them, why shouldn't these mentally ill people rape kids by your worldview?
The statistics speak for themself on many issues liberal people seem to be so righteous about even when in reality all their "ideals" exist for the sole purpose of replacing the void left by the hatred they feel for people they should naturally love, such as themself, their parents, their kids, their friends
By admitting that morality isn't objective you give yourself and others the right to do anything, which is not how a society functions and it's not how humans have lived ever, even some primates have a basic understanding of an action-based framework that sets clear boundaries, it's not based on morality but on the understanding that if you do something that could lead to the situation around me getting worse or to something happening that i wouldn't want to happend to me then it's not good, at the very least that's the most objective non religious morality one can apply to 99% of people, the one % being low functioning sociopaths
I don't want a world where trannies are normalised the same way i don't want sociopaths to be normalised, neither of these people will directly hurt me but they will hurt the society in which i live, they both can say "hi" or "thanks" to me, they can both be "kind" to me, but they would have no problem with watching me die depending on the circumstances
I don't hate what you think, i just don't believe it's something that can be realistically applied to a whole society, i find it to be a very minoritarian and self destructive ideology that is comfy to view the world with

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

To me, the reason I'm a Christian is because it adheres to me as the most logical. I have rough time finding that our world was just lucky enough to have life.

certainly not enough

And not just life a but life that has been able to sustain since the beginning of time. Everything is too intricate. The concept of right and wrong also adhere to me. Everybody has a general moral range of compass.

Can be accounted for by the evolutionary advantages of being invested in the tribe

Also the fact that Jesus is mentioned in so many religions provides much evidence he was real.

jesus was a real nigga yea I agree

Although not all religions claim that he supports the same thing, I find that Jesus being God is the most appealing. Considering that many religions outside of Christianity still believe he was a prophet, or enlightened figure.

I dont think this really means anything, in my system we are all divided fragments of God and some develop further than others through incarnations such as Jesus and have endured trials to gain the privilege of influence and power

I think he is the most based prophet though yes

But no proof he resurrected really I mean it is hard, as what is presented is almost as good as the proof could be, but even though I believe it, it's not provable in modern day, and even if it did happen, it is still more likely that he did a set up or was OG David Blaine

 

[iblamexyz]

Go ahead and give me one singular irrefutable evidence that God existed or whatever your claim is

The Bible that is the, ''irrefutable evidence that God existed''

if not muh bible how about the thousands of early manuscripts

and that Jesus himself claimed to be God

but adhering to every line in the Bible is fucking stupid and heaven and hell are too

So do you have the same attitude to when it comes to Looks theory? Do you just dismiss most of the theories but only focus on a select few that you think are correct?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

, there's no world in which trannies aren't going to groom children because they hate themselves and they hate those around them,

This is obviously bad faith.

why shouldn't these mentally ill people rape kids by your worldview?

Because innocent kids are someone other than themselves, and thus they are harming society at that point

we dont lock up people for attempted and failed suicide, theh have to harm other people.

The statistics speak for themself on many issues liberal people seem to be so righteous about even when in reality all their "ideals" exist for the sole purpose of replacing the void left by the hatred they feel for people they should naturally love, such as themself, their parents, their kids, their friends

this is a blanket statement there's no meat here

By admitting that morality isn't objective you give yourself and others the right to do anything, which is not how a society functions and it's not how humans have lived ever, even some primates have a basic understanding of an action-based framework that sets clear boundaries, it's not based on morality but on the understanding that if you do something that could lead to the situation around me getting worse or to something happening that i wouldn't want to happend to me then it's not good, at the very least that's the most objective non religious morality one can apply to 99% of people, the one % being low functioning sociopaths
I don't want a world where trannies are normalised the same way i don't want sociopaths to be normalised, neither of these people will directly hurt me but they will hurt the society in which i live, they both can say "hi" or "thanks" to me, they can both be "kind" to me, but they would have no problem with watching me die depending on the circumstances
I don't hate what you think, i just don't believe it's something that can be realistically applied to a whole society, i find it to be a very minoritarian and self destructive ideology that is comfy to view the world with

There is not objective morality

But you're claiming I think that means it's purge day or some shit and I distinctly clarified that it is not

Because there is not objective morality, we can only hope to look after the needs of society as a whole

All the peoples desires, divided by the number of people to determine which desires have the highest priority, a democracy

Morality comes from law and religion, and common sense, it doesn't actually exist beyond common interests

Important phrase: common interests

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

The Bible that is the, ''irrefutable evidence that God existed''

if not muh bible how about the thousands of early manuscripts

and that Jesus himself claimed to be God

So do you have the same attitude to when it comes to Looks theory? Do you just dismiss most of the theories but only focus on a select few that you think are correct?

100 years of testing is not equivalent to infinite years of agony as a result

A psychopath is born with 0 empathy, in a household without any values

Me killing people, is not the same as him killing people, I understand the consequences, he is biologically incapable of doing so and is more inclined to kill/ more likely.

And yet, we both face hellfire all the same

It's just logically terrible inconsistent

 

[iblamexyz]

100 years of testing is not equivalent to infinite years of agony as a result

A psychopath is born with 0 empathy, in a household without any values

Me killing people, is not the same as him killing people, I understand the consequences, he is biologically incapable of doing so and is more inclined to kill/ more likely.

And yet, we both face hellfire all the same

It's just logically terrible inconsistent

we've all sinned against God and deserve hellfire

by the Grace of God, he has given us an out

 

[Quncho]

certainly not enough

Wdym

Can be accounted for by the evolutionary advantages of being invested in the tribe

How, and also that statement did not only account for humans.

jesus was a real nigga yea I agree

Ye.

I dont think this really means anything, in my system we are all divided fragments of God and some develop further than others through incarnations such as Jesus and have endured trials to gain the privilege of influence and power

What is this religion you speak of and why do I believe that is true. Cuz this is just a statement to me.

But no proof he resurrected really I mean it is hard, as what is presented is almost as good as the proof could be, but even though I believe it, it's not provable in modern day, and even if it did happen, it is still more likely that he did a set up or was OG David Blaine

You mention proof but I have said already, no one can truly prove anything.
Also why would churches have started then and so onward until now if it never really happened?
And God also wouldn't make it so easy.
Also why portray him to be evil enough to do that when no religion claims him as so ?

 

[Quncho]

100 years of testing is not equivalent to infinite years of agony as a result

A psychopath is born with 0 empathy, in a household without any values

Me killing people, is not the same as him killing people, I understand the consequences, he is biologically incapable of doing so and is more inclined to kill/ more likely.

And yet, we both face hellfire all the same

It's just logically terrible inconsistent

You think 100 years isn't of enough to yield faith when the resources are abundantly available?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

@iblamexyz and what is even the point of just continuously dropping souls into earth when to determine whether they go to heaven or hell

If the latter is infinite it must be the main point

And yet it's entirely determine by the tiny little speck of life spent on earth

What makes more sense is that God feels the urge to experience life as a creature within his creation, and he continuously incarnated HIMSELF

Old souls, like Jesus ascend after Descending, then return to the Godhead, and may or may not reincarnate I'm not certain about this part

Saints like this usually don't I believe not like regular people do

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

You think 100 years isn't of enough to yield faith when the resources are abundantly available?

Of course

Everything is almost entirely environmental,

Be honest, is this a religion you stubled upon, or did people go out of their way to influence you?

What if a person didn't have influences, what if a person is Arabic but they live a holy and Richeous life in the name of Allah?

What happens then? Eternal torture?

 

[iblamexyz]

@iblamexyz and what is even the point of just continuously dropping souls into earth when to determine whether they go to heaven or hell

So God can show his Mercy and his Wrath

What makes more sense is that God feels the urge to experience life as a creature within his creation, and he continuously incarnated HIMSELF

Because humanity itself is broken, and it needed a savior.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

So God can show his Mercy and his Wrath

Oh, like how my dad bought my GI Joe action figures so I could play with them?

This is the dumbest thing you've said

Because humanity itself is broken, and it needed a savior.

Sure, he sent Jesus with a specific purpose, I don't disagree

But my concept of the grand purpose or structure more accurately, differs

 

[Quncho]

Of course

Everything is almost entirely environmental,

Be honest, is this a religion you stubled upon, or did people go out of their way to influence you?

What if a person didn't have influences, what if a person is Arabic but they live a holy and Richeous life in the name of Allah?

What happens then? Eternal torture?

Influence is a given but choice is ultimately up to the influenced. I'm not retarted enough to not take a look at other worldviews before calling it a day. And that goes for every soul. Especially in today's world where everything seems to reach everywhere thanks to social media.

if someone has never heard of Christianity (which is severely unlikely), God would judge them based on their heart and if they even believe God exists. Complexity and resource has been given as a gateway imo.

 

[iblamexyz]

Oh, like how my dad bought my GI Joe action figures so I could play with them?

Well, actually, if I had a toy and I broke it, I would throw it in the bin, but because of God's mercy, he sees a broken toy and for some reason decides to keep it around.

This is the dumbest thing you've said

ad hominem rather than dressing the issue itself

come Judgement day Christ will Judge everyone

But my concept of the grand purpose or structure more accurately, differs

So you have a man-made belief rather than what the actual evidence presents.

 

[yushmaxx]

In a small minority.

Usually porn induced brain damage

porn induced?

 

[Deleted member 276814]

or an autist obsessed with legos

That's just called having a hobby absolutely not a mental illness

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Well, actually, if I had a toy and I broke it, I would throw it in the bin, but because of God's mercy, he sees a broken toy and for some reason decides to keep it around.

What? God sends it to hell for eternity

Id much rather go to the trash with the GI Joe's

So you have a man-made belief rather than what the actual evidence presents.

What are we talking about? Reincarnation is the only belief system with any substantiation

Who do you think wrote the Bible you fucking idiot oh my god

Yes. Empty statements like "the world exists so god can show his mercy and wrath" do not merit a respectful response

Then you call my belief system "man made"

What a retard

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Influence is a given but choice is ultimately up to the influenced. I'm not retarted enough to not take a look at other worldviews before calling it a day. And that goes for every soul. Especially in today's world where everything seems to reach everywhere thanks to social media.

if someone has never heard of Christianity (which is severely unlikely), God would judge them based on their heart and if they even believe God exists. Complexity and resource has been given as a gateway imo.

Even if I accept all of this

"Being" a Christian should have no relevance, conduct and morality is all that should matter

If a Muslim had plenty of opportunities to convert, he didn't, HOWEVER he is a holy and godly man who does not sin, he goes to hell

And you can pretend there's more nuance but that's what the book says, taking every word literally is for fools.

 

[Zeuxx]

I simply can't argue against most liberal concepts in an atheistic model

I'm not an atheist, but its low IQ to try and force your religious moral models on to others without evidence, it's not an intellegent behavior

Thus, I dont really have an issue with trannies anymore, I think it is largely a mental illness and obsession, however

So is alcoholism, or an autist obsessed with legos

I don't have an issue with suicide either, I don't think it's good, but killing yourself isn't technically immoral either

Nothing is "technically" immoral, so the only objective morality, or the closest thing to it, is not hurting other people to retain a peaceful society

Unless the trannies groom our children, they can't be argued against from a moral standpoint, it's just "icky"

I have genuinely been turned

Completely agree

 

[Deleted member 306200]

I simply can't argue against most liberal concepts in an atheistic model

I'm not an atheist, but its low IQ to try and force your religious moral models on to others without evidence, it's not an intellegent behavior

Thus, I dont really have an issue with trannies anymore, I think it is largely a mental illness and obsession, however

So is alcoholism, or an autist obsessed with legos

I don't have an issue with suicide either, I don't think it's good, but killing yourself isn't technically immoral either

Nothing is "technically" immoral, so the only objective morality, or the closest thing to it, is not hurting other people to retain a peaceful society

Unless the trannies groom our children, they can't be argued against from a moral standpoint, it's just "icky"

I have genuinely been turned

In the modern society, all of our political ideologies have gone to shit. Most of them were just jewish propoganda anyway.

Politics is jester, looks are real.

 

[zygosmasher]

Unless the trannies groom our children, they can't be argued against from a moral standpoint, it's just "icky"

They do. Willing to bet a lot of money you’re under 100 iq typical libtard spew there’s nothing moral about being a liberal

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

They do. Willing to bet a lot of money you’re under 100 iq typical libtard spew there’s nothing moral about being a liberal

Why would you say "they do" instead of telling me how they do

Go ahead...?

 

[zygosmasher]

Why would you say "they do" instead of telling me how they do

Go ahead...?

The simple fact of it being in the news 24/7, it being acceptable and clinics willing to operate on people (even underage people) is more than enough proof of grooming. I don’t associate myself with those types however I don’t think it’s a reach to assume in their community they try and convince people it’s a good thing to do

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

The simple fact of it being in the news 24/7, it being acceptable and clinics willing to operate on people (even underage people) is more than enough proof of grooming. I don’t associate myself with those types however I don’t think it’s a reach to assume in their community they try and convince people it’s a good thing to do

Because some trannies groom none of them can exist is your argument?

If some black people commit crimes all of them go to jail?

What If some jews are doing shady business and controlling markets.... what then?

Listen I agree it's a sexually driven behavior not a identity driven behavior, but this is not 100% of cases

I don't disagree with what you said, but it doesn't address the morality of trans people as a concept, but rather the likelihood a trans person will be moral, which make sense in practice but not in a debate

 

[zygosmasher]

I don't disagree with what you said, but it doesn't address the morality of trans people as a concept, but rather the likelihood a trans person will be moral, which make sense in practice but not in a debate

Pick one part of my argument and leave the rest out. I’ll pick one out aswell, the fact surgeons are willing to operate on people without mental health checks and destroy their bodies, the fact they’re willing to do it on underage kids, the fact that the parents of the kids that get destroyed by it are then willingly supporting destroying their children’s bodies forever is enough of an argument to eradicate them

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Pick one part of my argument and leave the rest out. I’ll pick one out aswell, the fact surgeons are willing to operate on people without mental health checks and destroy their bodies, the fact they’re willing to do it on underage kids, the fact that the parents of the kids that get destroyed by it are then willingly supporting destroying their children’s bodies forever is enough of an argument to eradicate them

Once again.

You're saying "how moral are trannies"

I agree, they usually aren't

That is not the question

The question is: "is being trans INHERENTLY immoral"

you are not addressing this whatsoever.

 

[zygosmasher]

Once again.

You're saying "how moral are trannies"

I agree, they usually aren't

That is not the question

The question is: "is being trans INHERENTLY immoral"

you are not addressing this whatsoever.

Yes

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Yes

Why... why you fucking idiot...

Holy hell back to where we started

This is a whole new level of bad faith

 

[BlackSilence]

Lots of triple digit iq ppl think like this, its just that they dont say it.

 

[zygosmasher]

Why... why you fucking idiot...

Holy hell back to where we started

This is a whole new level of bad faith

Because zygosmasher12 said so. Nigga idgaf about your rules of debating just look at what’s happening to kids these days, idc about trannies my friend but what needs to be stopped is let’s say for the sake of you to stop bitching a part of their community that grooms kids into this shit. The immorality lies in the consequences of it being accepted. By saying you support trannies you’re also supporting that part of it

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Because zygosmasher12 said so. Nigga idgaf about your rules of debating just look at what’s happening to kids these days, idc about trannies my friend but what needs to be stopped is let’s say for the sake of you to stop bitching a part of their community that grooms kids into this shit. The immorality lies in the consequences of it being accepted. By saying you support trannies you’re also supporting that part of it

I don't think it should be encouraged at all, it should be treated like ******************, it requires a serious psychological assessment to get it done and only adults

We are in agreement, but the chill trannies must be left alone as trannies are not inherently immoral or dangerous.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Because zygosmasher12 said so. Nigga idgaf about your rules of debating just look at what’s happening to kids these days, idc about trannies my friend but what needs to be stopped is let’s say for the sake of you to stop bitching a part of their community that grooms kids into this shit. The immorality lies in the consequences of it being accepted. By saying you support trannies you’re also supporting that part of it

Dawg the percentage of blacks who kill people far exceeds the percentage of trannies who do the same

The percentage of blacks who groom (a) person into a gang for exceeds the percentage of trannies who do the same

You have to apply this consistency elsewhere

 

[IronMike]

once my front lobe developed I shifted from far right to centrist.

 

[zygosmasher]

Dawg the percentage of blacks who kill people far exceeds the percentage of trannies who do the same

The percentage of blacks who groom (a) person into a gang for exceeds the percentage of trannies who do the same

You have to apply this consistency elsewhere

Being a tranny is a choice, being black is not a choice.

 

[IronMike]

Dawg the percentage of blacks who kill people far exceeds the percentage of trannies who do the same

The percentage of blacks who groom (a) person into a gang for exceeds the percentage of trannies who do the same

You have to apply this consistency elsewhere

would you like to see metrics on the percentage of mass shootings done by whites compared to those done by trannies?

 

[ProBono]

as an individual in society, I don't inherently hate or get mad at anyone unless they've personally aggravated me, but to act like this viewpoint is actually good for society as a whole in the long term is in my opinion just dishonest, it's individualism at it's most raw, basically just a nonconfrontational ideology where you don't care for the long term or the big picture because significant change would alienate you, hurt people in the present and you dont think the future is worth fighting for anyways because you don't actually care about anything abstract at your core (not an attack against you, I have this too I'm just pointing it out)

I don't inherently hate modern society, but I wouldn't take that natural apathy as an actual worldview. I can still point out all of it's flaws, if not as moral failings than simply as societal failings which will naturally result in decay and collapse. I think genuine belief in a centrist worldview beyond self serving conformity is the height of delusion, because it's essentially just the easy way out where you admit that you've become apathetic to the fate of society, and still believe that your apathy will result in the optimal outcome.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

would you like to see metrics on the percentage of mass shootings done by whites compared to those done by trannies?

Percentage of ___ people doing crime

And percentage of the crime committed by ___

Is obviously not the same.

 

[Insomnia]

Likewise, I’m not necessarily a fan of troons, gays etc. but as I’ve matured I realised that you can’t really control how your brain works, so I’m more “supportive” now.

Also, I have no reason to fill myself with hatred over the choices of other people. If they’re happier as a gay person, so be it, it doesn’t concern me.

 

[Quncho]

Even if I accept all of this

"Being" a Christian should have no relevance, conduct and morality is all that should matter

If a Muslim had plenty of opportunities to convert, he didn't, HOWEVER he is a holy and godly man who does not sin, he goes to hell

And you can pretend there's more nuance but that's what the book says, taking every word literally is for fools.

Chances are if they didn't accept Jesus Christ and decided to be a Muslim they weren't very godly by Christian standards, but even if this was true, they wouldn't go to heaven because they had an opportunity to take a look at another religion and change. So I see it as fair. Choices are made in life. But I understand where you're coming from.

 

[iblamexyz]

What? God sends it to hell for eternity

Id much rather go to the trash with the GI Joe's

what point are you making here?

if you belive in Christ you have eternal life
(John 3:16)

What are we talking about? Reincarnation is the only belief system with any substantiation

yet to prove any of that ''substantiation''

Who do you think wrote the Bible you fucking idiot oh my god

Humans?

what do you expect me to say lol

it was wrote my sprit led humans

Yes. Empty statements like "the world exists so god can show his mercy and wrath" do not merit a respectful response

Then you call my belief system "man made"

What a retard

ad hominem rather than wanting to ''debunk''

or even actally having a conversation

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

what point are you making here?

if you belive in Christ you have eternal life
(John 3:16)

yet to prove any of that ''substantiation''

Humans?

what do you expect me to say lol

it was wrote my sprit led humans

ad hominem rather than wanting to ''debunk''

or even actally having a conversation

You still have yet to give me 1 piece of proof but sure I will do it myself

Hundreds of cases in which children have detailed and accurate recollections of other people's lives from across the globe

These are cases in which at least information is externally confirmed

In Christian NDE's, It is nothing but claims of what an individual generally wants to see

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

what point are you making here?

if you belive in Christ you have eternal life
(John 3:16)

yet to prove any of that ''substantiation''

Humans?

what do you expect me to say lol

it was wrote my sprit led humans

ad hominem rather than wanting to ''debunk''

or even actally having a conversation

You're calling reincarnation man made when you're a Christian

You actually need me to break down what this statement means you fucking donut? Seriously?

You're acting obtuse to avoid any kind of real debate, or, you're a fucking idiot

 

[lowtiersubhuman]

I simply can't argue against most liberal concepts in an atheistic model

I'm not an atheist, but its low IQ to try and force your religious moral models on to others without evidence, it's not an intellegent behavior

Thus, I dont really have an issue with trannies anymore, I think it is largely a mental illness and obsession, however

So is alcoholism, or an autist obsessed with legos

I don't have an issue with suicide either, I don't think it's good, but killing yourself isn't technically immoral either

Nothing is "technically" immoral, so the only objective morality, or the closest thing to it, is not hurting other people to retain a peaceful society

Unless the trannies groom our children, they can't be argued against from a moral standpoint, it's just "icky"

I have genuinely been turned

Nah fuck trump as a logical mother fucked I will stand on my principles ans not be a cuck faggot I was all for Trump but he needs to be imprisoned bro fuck trump

 

[iblamexyz]

You're acting obtuse to avoid any kind of real debate

I don't debate, I teach

You're calling reincarnation man made when you're a Christian

I am waiting for u to defend reincarnation instead of mocking me

You actually need me to break down what this statement means you fucking donut? Seriously?

all you have done is insult me

let's be honest you don't care to ''debate'' either

if you did you would treat me with respect, rather than insulting me

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Nah fuck trump as a logical mother fucked I will stand on my principles ans not be a cuck faggot I was all for Trump but he needs to be imprisoned bro fuck trump

What? Nobody mentioned trump

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I don't debate, I teach


I am waiting for u to defend reincarnation instead of mocking me

all you have done is insult me

let's be honest you don't care to ''debate'' either

if you did you would treat me with respect, rather than insulting me

You don't warrant any respect