Jaw shave surgery

[Genz2002]

Ok. Even tho I don’t have a lot body fat my face looks so bloated. I think it is because of the borders of my jawline. I was thinking to shave the borders and also put in a ramus plant.
Also face looks so 2D. There is no depth to it. Why do you think is the reason?
I need advice

 

[tyler1234]

Probably implants

 

[Genz2002]

Probably implants

For the jaw angles?

 

[Assymetry]

You are still above 20 percent bodyfat easily, if boneless, you will ofc look bloated.

 

[Genz2002]

You are still above 20 percent bodyfat easily, if boneless, you will ofc look bloated.

I’m boneless yeah

 

[Neverland]

It's not that bad. You have a big, kind of bulbuous nose that takes away from the facial depth. Your cheecks are kind of low as well. You also have some asymmetry at jaw area. Your left jaw angle (for viewer right) is a bit higher than the right jaw angle. Your nose though, is your biggest flaw imo. If it was a bit less bulbuous and less big, it would probably bring harmony back to the whole face, and other flaws would be less noticable because of overall harmony. The upper part of the face, except your hair, which seems to be dry, a bit thin and lifeless on top, is very good and almost pretty boy tier.

Put a pencil horizontally over your nose, and you'll see the rest of the face is not that bad at all and the flaws kind of almost dissappear.

 

[Genz2002]

It's not that bad. You have a big, kind of bulbuous nose that takes away from the facial depth. Your cheecks are kind of low as well. You also have some asymmetry at jaw area. Your left jaw angle (for viewer right) is a bit higher than the right jaw angle. Your nose though, is your biggest flaw imo. If it was a bit less bulbuous and less big, it would probably bring harmony back to the whole face, and other flaws would be less noticable because of overall harmony. The upper part of the face, except your hair, which seems to be dry, a bit thin and lifeless on top, is very good and almost pretty boy tier.

Put a pencil horizontally over your nose, and you'll see the rest of the face is not that bad at all and the flaws kind of almost dissappear.

Thanks bro! Yeah so bulbous nose can reduce from your facial depth right? I was thinking the same too! It also droopy!
What do you think about the jaw asymmetry tho? I tend to notice it alottt on my pics!
Yeah I know hair is shit and lifeless! Can you suggest something to make it less dry? Like using oil can make it better?
I really like to do rihno but so afraid of it turning unnatural! Also I don’t know if I should full rihno or tip plasty only!

 

[volikerza]

inward gonions

 

[thebonesmasher1234]

Ok. Even tho I don’t have a lot body fat my face looks so bloated. I think it is because of the borders of my jawline. I was thinking to shave the borders and also put in a ramus plant.
Also face looks so 2D. There is no depth to it. Why do you think is the reason?
I need advice

Bro ima be so honest w you look around 22 percent bodyfat based on your physique alone and u still have slightly hollow cheeks just lean out son

 

[Genz2002]

Bro ima be so honest w you look around 22 percent bodyfat based on your physique alone and u still have slightly hollow cheeks just lean out son

Bro I have to lean out then! But I’m about to do fat graft soon! So I will probably do it after that since I need enough fat!
Bro how visible is my jaw asymmetry to you?
That’s my plan: fat graft- canthoplasty- cheek lift- veneers-nose job(riskiest probably)

 

[Neverland]

Thanks bro! Yeah so bulbous nose can reduce from your facial depth right?

I wouldn't say it is always a general rule. Could be, I don't know. You have to look at it case by case. So i'm looking at your face.

I was thinking the same too! It also droopy!

Yes. It's your biggest flaw and throws off harmony, probably making other flaws more visible or destracting too if you focus on them.

What do you think about the jaw asymmetry tho?

I mean, the left jaw is a bit weaker and has a higher jaw angle, true. But it's not that big of a deal if you fix the middle part of the face. Even right now, it's not disturbing.

I tend to notice it alottt on my pics!

See above.

I really like to do rihno but so afraid of it turning unnatural!

Yes, and that's the problem with all the fcking surgeries. They can go wrong. But based on this picture, it's very straightforward imo: you either fix the nose, or you'll keep staring at a face that lacks overall harmony, seeing all kind of flaws in different places, that almost magically dissapear or become less obvious once you tackle the biggest problem.

That's how true facial beauty works, it works in harmony, like an orchestra.

I'm not 100% sure about my assessment, cause i'm only judging one picture (and no profile pic), but if this picture represents the way you look, then i'm probably at least very close to the truth.

I guess, if you do nosejob and maybe a small implant to fix asymmetry if it really bothers you, and everything goes right, you could go up like 2 points (my estimate).

 

[Genz2002]

I wouldn't say it is always a general rule. Could be, I don't know. You have to look at it case by case. So i'm looking at your face.



Yes. It's your biggest flaw and throws off harmony, probably making other flaws more visible or destracting too if you focus on them.



I mean, the left jaw is a bit weaker and has a higher jaw angle, true. But it's not that big of a deal if you fix the middle part of the face. Even right now, it's not disturbing.



See above.



Yes, and that's the problem with all the fcking surgeries. They can go wrong. But based on this picture, it's very straightforward imo: you either fix the nose, or you'll keep staring at a face that lacks overall harmony, seeing all kind of flaws in different places, that almost magically dissapear or become less obvious once you tackle the biggest problem.

That's how true facial beauty works, it works in harmony, like an orchestra.

I'm not 100% sure about my assessment, cause i'm only judging one picture (and no profile pic), but if this picture represents the way you look, then i'm probably at least very close to the truth.

I guess, if you do nosejob and maybe a small implant to fix asymmetry if it really bothers you, and everything goes right, you could go up like 2 points (my estimate).

thanks for the advice bro
This is side. And another front pic. Sorry just took a shower haha

 

[Neverland]

You're welcome.

Can't judge completely based on the angle of second pic. But it's kind of obvious imo that nose destracts.

Nose from profile looks better. Your ramus is short though. Combined with long chin from profile, it gives you a bit of banana shape. Though you do have a masculine side profile.

But let's not make things too complicated. If you want to go up in looks, I would personally focus on the nose. Be aware though, you might lose aura and masculinity as well, and you will get a more pretty boy look IF done right. If done bad, it could look uncanny.

We have witnessed the downfall of Clavicular when it comes to masculine perception. He has been in a fight two times since he became a bit more feminine looking, cause some people just don't accept an arrogant attitude combined with lack of masculine traits.

Not judging him as a person, it's just almost always a trade off.

But IF done right, and you hit the sweet spot, you will go up in looks and at the same time preserve some masculinity.

 

[seal_1]

are your gonions inward?

 

[Genz2002]

are your gonions inward?

I guess so

 

[Genz2002]

You're welcome.

Can't judge completely based on the angle of second pic. But it's kind of obvious imo that nose destracts.

Nose from profile looks better. Your ramus is short though. Combined with long chin from profile, it gives you a bit of banana shape. Though you do have a masculine side profile.

But let's not make things too complicated. If you want to go up in looks, I would personally focus on the nose. Be aware though, you might lose aura and masculinity as well, and you will get a more pretty boy look IF done right. If done bad, it could look uncanny.

We have witnessed the downfall of Clavicular when it comes to masculine perception. He has been in a fight two times since he became a bit more feminine looking, cause some people just don't accept an arrogant attitude combined with lack of masculine traits.

Not judging him as a person, it's just almost always a trade off.

But IF done right, and you hit the sweet spot, you will go up in looks and at the same time preserve some masculinity.

Thanks man!