JAW SURGERY IN 9 HOURS: ASK ME ANYTHING!!!!

[yorker12]

Upper jaw impaction 4mm + ccw.
Genioplasty 6-8mm.

Kinda nervous, but I trust the surgeon, he's been great so far.

 

[güss]

how does your family feel about this?

 

[Daqirius]

its over

 

[Deleted member 17345]

OMG YOU INSPIRE ME ,YOU ARE A LEGEND!!!

 

[Deleted member 17531]

Are you ready to become Chad?

 

[Deleted member 20064]

Who is the surgeon, will you post before and after pics?

 

[fruitgunpop]

Good luck boyo

 

[Deleted member 15669]

Gl

 

[yorker12]

how does your family feel about this?

Supportive.
They know I did my due diligence and research.
The biggest reason they don't want me to do it is because anesthesia and just being worried for me.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

no lower jaw movement?

 

[tooLOW]

can bimax push philtrum a bit back so it is in line with brow bridge?

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

Upper jaw impaction 4mm + ccw.
Genioplasty 6-8mm.

Kinda nervous, but I trust the surgeon, he's been great so far.

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Tell your surgeon to bonemash your bones

 

[Silver]

Is all your lower jaw advancement coming from autorotation?

 

[tooLOW]

Tell your surgeon to bonemash your bones

curry propaganda

 

[Oberyn]

how long did you wear braces before the surgery?

 

[Deleted member 17244]

Tell your surgeon to bonemash your bones

and obv OP cant forget about mewing and chewing during surgery

 

[Chadpreetmaybe]

Following, tag me in next update

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

and obv OP cant forget about mewing and chewing during surgery

Biggest mewcel copes
just mew chew and you will be fine
You are recessed get bimax to ascend
Forward grown maxilla is everything
Chew with incisors to get upward growth of the maxilla

 

[Adonis]

Upper jaw impaction 4mm + ccw.

wtf you will barely look different.
Over

 

[yorker12]

no lower jaw movement?

No, adds too much risk since I don't have functional issues.
Would increase the cost and recovery too.
He said If we did 2 jaws, he would move the whole complex forward, but tbh my biggest falios are just my chin and gummy smile which will be fixed with this.
No need to add extra risk since I am only doing this for mental shit. I already slay.

IMO surgery is worth just to fix falios, not for creating halos.

 

[Adonis]

Are you ready to become Chad?

Lmao not with that advancment

 

[Adonis]

IMO surgery is worth just to fix falios, not for creating halos.

You will never slay with that mentality.

 

[yorker12]

Lmao not with that advancment

wtf you will barely look different.
Over

Milimiters are miles on the face.
I already slay.
Just doing this for my own mental health since I was bullied as a kid about those things.

 

[lepo2317]

Good luck man, I hope you will ascend greatly

 

[Deleted member 2729]

can bimax push philtrum a bit back so it is in line with brow bridge?

no but that doesnt matter

@op which surgeon

 

[yorker12]

You will never slay with that mentality.

Well, that's just objectively not true.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

Upper jaw impaction 4mm + ccw.
Genioplasty 6-8mm.

Kinda nervous, but I trust the surgeon, he's been great so far.

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cost and country?

 

[HerpDerpson]

since I don't have functional issues

If you don't have malocclusion, what do you need the braces for?

 

[tooLOW]

no but that doesnt matter

@op which surgeon

but is there something that can do it?

 

[Adonis]

Milimiters are miles on the face.

Yeah but 4 isn't much at all.
I think 10mm should be min if you already need bimax.

 

[yorker12]

Yeah but 4 isn't much at all.
I think 10mm should be min if you already need bimax.

4mm IMPACTION
8mm genioplasty

Keep in mind impaction also brings the lower jaw forward & up.

I don't need bimax, my occlusion is fine and breathing is also fine after SARPE.
Don't want to risk ruining my already good harmony.
I look great from the front, the side is what fucks me over.

 

[yorker12]

If you don't have malocclusion, what do you need the braces for?

I had SARPE around 2 years ago as well as a slight overbite.
If I hadn't planned the surgery, my braces would be off my now.

 

[subhuman to mtn]

Bhai not much to say except for good luck, stay safe and post results soon

 

[Adonis]

4mm IMPACTION
8mm genioplasty

Keep in mind impaction also brings the lower jaw forward & up.

I don't need bimax, my occlusion is fine and breathing is also fine after SARPE.
Don't want to risk ruining my already good harmony.
I look great from the front, the side is what fucks me over.

I mean I am only telling my opinion.
Ofc what matters is that you are happy with it and nothing else.

 

[Mr.Proper]

What software did the surgeon use for that planning? What kind of scan did you get? Is that just CBCT?

 

[Deleted member 19620]

I already slay.

Sorry boi. You ain’t slaying with that disgusting recessed chin.
Good Luck for the surgery though.

 

[Deleted member 2729]

but is there something that can do it?

I mean technically you could get a set back lf 1 or something like that but why would you ever wanna decrease your forward growth. Ive never seen a case where the person had too much forward growth. Meaning your situation rn is either already almost ideal or you need a browridge/forehead adjustment

 

[yorker12]

Who is the surgeon, will you post before and after pics?

Yes, I also got my old pre-MARPE/SARPE CT scans today. Can compare how my midface/zygos changed after the fact now.
I guess I will post an update with all of my previous surgeries.

I'd rather post the surgeon after everything is done.

 

[tooLOW]

I mean technically you could get a set back lf 1 or something like that but why would you ever wanna decrease your forward growth. Ive never seen a case where the person had too much forward growth. Meaning your situation rn is either already almost ideal or you need a browridge/forehead adjustment

its not the bones but i have very thick skin at that area

 

[yorker12]

Is all your lower jaw advancement coming from autorotation?

Yes + the genioplasty.
We discussed this with the surgeon.
He said my lower jaw moves forward around 2-3mm in the simulations purely because of the ccw rotation + impaction.

 

[yorker12]

how long did you wear braces before the surgery?

A loong time, I started braces before my M/SARPE treatment which was around 3 years ago, 2 years ago I got the MARPE and now were here.

 

[yorker12]

Biggest mewcel copes
just mew chew and you will be fine
You are recessed get bimax to ascend
Forward grown maxilla is everything
Chew with incisors to get upward growth of the maxilla

IMO, i might have gotten some benefits from mewing while turning my MARPE microimplant.

Now i have the old and new CT scans, but I will analyze them sometime later when I am recovered.

But again, my sutures were literally surgically split, so it was not exactly traditional mewing.

 

[yorker12]

cost and country?

around 6k, northern Europe.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

around 6k, northern Europe.

cheap af. Whats the difference between lf1 solo and lf1 ccw?

 

[yorker12]

I mean I am only telling my opinion.
Ofc what matters is that you are happy with it and nothing else.

I appreciate it, brings discussion to the forum.

Yeah, me and the surgeon also agree that bimax would be aesthetically better, but not worth it in my case.

80/20 principle bhai.

I just want to finish hardmaxxing asap, get the braces off and fix my main falios.

 

[yorker12]

What software did the surgeon use for that planning? What kind of scan did you get? Is that just CBCT?

idk about what software it is, the software which the x ray department for analyzing the ct scan on my own gave me is also different.

I could ask the surgeon tomorrow.

Yes, just a cbct as well as some weird laser scan on my teeth from the inside of my mouth.

I would have gotten the simulation with color and my skin tones, but the special photography device was broken and the parts were on their way from america.

The only diff would be that the simulation get color. Other than that its the same.

 

[yorker12]

Sorry boi. You ain’t slaying with that disgusting recessed chin.
Good Luck for the surgery though.

Username checks out heh.

Would getting a very attractive girl for my standards every/every other week from tinder be considered slaying?

I am just lucky with my other features.

6ft2, wide shoulders, good pheno and more.
Its literally impossible to be an incel with those.

Thanks, hopefully I won't need luck

 

[yorker12]

cheap af. Whats the difference between lf1 solo and lf1 ccw?

Upper jaw with lefort is very maneuverable.

With impaction, depending on the case, you can do parallel, ccw and cw rotation.
You can also move it in the sagittal plane forwards and backwards.

The idea for downward grown patients is that ccw impaction mimics natural forward growth.
Also it allows the lower jaw to autorotate forwards and up more because of the new occlusion without needing lower jaw surgery.

CCW (counterclockwise rotation) is just the way it is moved, its not necessarily something *more* than just lf1.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

Upper jaw with lefort is very maneuverable.

With impaction, depending on the case, you can do parallel, ccw and cw rotation.
You can also move it in the sagittal plane forwards and backwards.

The idea for downward grown patients is that ccw impaction mimics natural forward growth.
Also it allows the lower jaw to autorotate forwards and up more because of the new occlusion without needing lower jaw surgery.

CCW (counterclockwise rotation) is just the way it is moved, its not necessarily something *more* than just lf1.

im downwarded grown trash but not as recessed as you. U think I should get cww lf1? I have gonial angle about 130

 

[yorker12]

im downwarded grown trash but not as recessed as you. U think I should get cww lf1? I have gonial angle about 130

Idk what your case is.

I have a gummy smile + recessive chin, the solution is pretty straightforward: Lefort for gummy smile and genioplasty for the chin.

Your nasolabial angle is also low, which could be made worse or better with lefort.

If you want my honest opinion, don't bother with jaw surgery unless you have specific things you want to fix, maybe genio at most, you look good enough to slay.

I could see ccw looking good on you, but if you don't have a gummy smile, I would be careful. There's so many horror stories of overimpaction.
Maybe a ccw downgraft, but imo it is more complicated and again, you would need to find a good surgeon to do it for you.

If you're considering jaw surgery, first find a surgeon who is wiling to do one for you. Then he will give you his thoughts on what can be done for you.