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He is trying to make finasteride look like aspirin level drug, sensing some bullshit. Anyone watch him regularly ?
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He is trying to make finasteride look like aspirin level drug, sensing some bullshit. Anyone watch him regularly ?
i definitely agree on the point that finasteride is safe for most when it comes to ed but having side effects are not just having an ed.whay are non of you peoples. Bitching about side effect of finastride.
Checking the health websites.
Fina is around for shitlong time already. Been researched into oblvion, also in side effects. Whith large pool of patients/participants.
And you guys are looking for motherfucking anecdotal evidence.
So OVER, for the blackpill.
Blackpill = science pill. Take the science pill.
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lol this was actually me.Will blame fina, even if they are 3000 pounds overweight fatsos
I can share my anecdotal stuff on fina (0.25 gr) and saw palemetto. I use both daily.lol this was actually me.
i've used saw palmetto and it gave poor erection quality BUT i was fatty (%25 bf) so it might be related.
however, still that means to get top quality erection on fin,duta (or maybe even on saw palmetto) you need to be on top physically and might get assist from drugs like sildenafil etc.
do you have regular sex life ? if so do you really have good erection quality on daily basis ?I can share my anecdotal stuff on fina (0.25 gr) and saw palemetto. I use both daily.
I am overall quit healthy, healthy lifestyle, and bodyfat percenatge alwasy below 20%. Probably around the ranges if 15%-17%. And I age of 36.
I had zero noticeable side effect. On fina for 1 year. On saw lametto for like 1.5 year.
He is trying to make finasteride look like aspirin level drug, sensing some bullshit. Anyone watch him regularly ?
this dude has so many videos about how people are just imagining things, pfs isnt real, side effects are placebo etc that I start to think somebody is paying him, why else would he care about balding guys so much?
huh ? why he got lawsuit and who the fuck is Girlvinyl ?Funny because I made a thread about him the other day about his lawsuit regarding Encyclopedia Dramatica. A website which has been through turmoil for the last 9 years now since Girlvinyl left.
no i think even with people who says "no side effects" has some degree of erection quality loss but they don't care.Some people take finasteride without any side effect and start spreading that finasteride has no side effects, Kevin is one of those. Just because he was lucky to not get any side effect doesn't mean other guys won't get them.
I took finasteride for 6 months, had to quit because I couldn't get proper erections, even when I had sex. Now it has been almost a year since I quit it and only recently my erections came back to normal.
Finasteride is not a safe drug at all, you could be a lucky guy and not get any side effects but lots of men will have them.
Some people take finasteride without any side effect and start spreading that finasteride has no side effects, Kevin is one of those. Just because he was lucky to not get any side effect doesn't mean other guys won't get them.
I took finasteride for 6 months, had to quit because I couldn't get proper erections, even when I had sex. Now it has been almost a year since I quit it and only recently my erections came back to normal.
Finasteride is not a safe drug at all, you could be a lucky guy and not get any side effects but lots of men will have them.
Some people take finasteride without any side effect and start spreading that finasteride has no side effects, Kevin is one of those. Just because he was lucky to not get any side effect doesn't mean other guys won't get them.
I took finasteride for 6 months, had to quit because I couldn't get proper erections, even when I had sex. Now it has been almost a year since I quit it and only recently my erections came back to normal.
Finasteride is not a safe drug at all, you could be a lucky guy and not get any side effects but lots of men will have them.
But he even admin that first he thought also that finasteride is the worst shit ever until he tried itFirst of all you should know that he has hair not because of Finasteride but because of hair transplant
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This is how his hair looked like before transplant but on finasteride
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As far as credibility goes he is no higher than anyone on this forum. Infact, here he was on forums in 2014 complaining about never getting woman
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He also claims to work in the pharmaceutical industry so of course he supports finasteride
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And here he is 6 years ago saying Finasteride works by “chemically castrating you”
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So he works in the pharmaceutical industry, admits that Finasteride chemically castrates you, only has hair because of transplant, yet still continues to make weekly videos about why Finasteride is “risk-free” and effective at growing hair.’ I would not say he is reliable.
He is trying to make finasteride look like aspirin level drug, sensing some bullshit. Anyone watch him regularly ?
link lolhe is a bit aspie though there's some really weird/creepy threads made by him on t nation and other sites about fucking jbs
But he even admin that first he thought also that finasteride is the worst shit ever until he tried it
the same with derek from more plates more dates he was first super against finasteride and now use it himself
I think alot of people first scared away from finasteride but then understand that the chance is on your side that you dont get sides
So he works in the pharmaceutical industry, admits that Finasteride chemically castrates you, only has hair because of transplant, yet still continues to make weekly videos about why Finasteride is “risk-free” and effective at growing hair.’ I would not say he is reliable.
guys that rot on forums most of their time are not the best group to ask for side effects since they probably aren't in a good place to begin with, have lots of problems and are more keen to blame their situation on a newly introduced drug to have something to blame forbut @Lifeisgood72 is one these retards who got pfs and now thinks just because he got it everyone will got it too, he just cannot accept that it works fine for other people, maybe a narcistic injury idk
link lol
- he works in the pharmaceutical industry and still tells people to get the generic drugs if there is a alternative to the brand name
- he used to lurk forums so he heavily got into the tell-tales, and anecdotal evidence instead of looking at scientific studies - what he does now, while using the drugs himself
- most of the guys that get a hair transplant need to hop on finasteride, since it doesn't regrow hair but prevents the hair you have from further falling out
it doesn't get more transparent than that, he says all these things himself in every video he makes, not like he's trying to hide anything
guys that rot on forums most of their time are not the best group to ask for side effects since they probably aren't in a good place to begin with, have lots of problems and are more keen to blame their situation on a newly introduced drug to have something to blame for
am i on the wrong forum? the comments on lookism are way more mature, seems like they don't have all these angry teenage virgins like we dothere were a bunch of hilarious posts on encyclopedia dramatica but the website is down apparently lol
there was a thread made about it on lookism https://lookism.net/threads/anyone-seen-kevin-manns-previous-forum-accounts-jfl.548177/#post-5123650
1. Nobody needs to take finasterideyou are right that some people are more prone for developing side effects, however...
side effects are real but studies show it happens to a small minority and not too 99% of people who take finasteride like our little friend pretends here.
i just made a good a posts to that topic imho:
"
what else i realized that finasteride fear moggers (just aswell as surger fear moggers) barely operate with studies (since they are barely in their favor) but mostly with anecdotal evidence and emotions.
however these anecdotal evidence can be quite effective (just look how they shifted reality in this forum, all the studies show that people who experience side effects are actually in the minority but just by spaming annecdotal evidence they made many people believe here that people who dont experience side effects are actually the minority when it reality its the other way around) to influence people because it triggers 2 different biases when it comes to judging riks
- bias of imaginability:
"Imaginability plays an important role in the evaluation of probabilities in reallife situations. the risk involved in an adventurous expedition, for example, is evaluated by imagining contingencies with which the expedition is not equipped to cope. ff many such difficulties are vividly portrayed, the expedition can be made to appear exceedingly dangerous, although the ease with which disasters are imagined need not reflect their actual likelihood."
in case of finasteride that leads to the following results:
" A significant placebo effect has been detected in patients who were informed of potential sexual side effects before taking finasteride [15]. In a blinded control study, 107 subjects with a clinical diagnosis of BPH were randomized to receive finasteride (5 mg/day) for 1 year with 1 group receiving counseling (n = 55) on the drug sexual side effects and the other group not receiving such counseling (n = 52). The phrase used to inform counseled patients was this drug ‘may cause erectile dysfunction, decreased libido, problems of ejaculation but these are uncommon’. Those patients informed of the potential sexual side effects of the drug reported a significant higher proportion of sexual side effects (43.6%) as compared to those who were not informed (15.3%). The incidence of erectile dysfunction, decreased libido, and ejaculation disorders was 9.6, 7.7, and 5.7% for patients not informed, and 30.9, 23.6, and 16.3% for informed patients [15]. "
- bias of availability
"there are many situations in which people assess the frequency of a class or the probability of an event by the ease with which instances or occurrences can be brought to mind. for example, one may assess the risk of heart attack among middle-aged people by recalling such occurrences among one's acquaintances. similarly, one may evaluate the probability that a given business venture will fail by imagining various difficulties it could encounter. this judgmental heuristic is called availability. availability is alliected by factors other than frequency and probability. consequently, the reliance on availability leads to predictable biases and mistakes in evaluating risks properly. "
in case of finasteride we have the following results:
people who experience side effects are way more likely to express themself over the internet compared to people who just keep the hair and barely think about it. these people who then spend their time on the internet crying over side effects, researching over side effects then ofc meet other people with the same problems (note: finasteride gets taken by millions and considering these numbers there will also be good amount of numbers of people who experience side effects (studies always report the side effect range being between 3% to 8%). and then we have an echo chamber situation. all of a sudden you only read about side effect stories, all of a sudden the numbers in the studies dont make sense anymore, all of a sudden the studies must be fake, all of a sudden you believe the side effect rate isnt 4% but 99% and everbody who doesnt agree with you is lying jflol.
read more here: https://looksmax.org/threads/looksm...-decision-making-caution-high-iq-only.230444/ "
what do your doctors say and for how long have you been off it?1. Nobody needs to take finasteride
2. if you have even just a 4% chance of getting what I have right now It’s not worth it.
great argument.you are right that some people are more prone for developing side effects, however...
side effects are real but studies show it happens to a small minority and not too 99% of people who take finasteride like our little friend pretends here.
i just made a good a posts to that topic imho:
"
what else i realized that finasteride fear moggers (just aswell as surger fear moggers) barely operate with studies (since they are barely in their favor) but mostly with anecdotal evidence and emotions.
however these anecdotal evidence can be quite effective (just look how they shifted reality in this forum, all the studies show that people who experience side effects are actually in the minority but just by spaming annecdotal evidence they made many people believe here that people who dont experience side effects are actually the minority when it reality its the other way around) to influence people because it triggers 2 different biases when it comes to judging riks
- bias of imaginability:
"Imaginability plays an important role in the evaluation of probabilities in reallife situations. the risk involved in an adventurous expedition, for example, is evaluated by imagining contingencies with which the expedition is not equipped to cope. ff many such difficulties are vividly portrayed, the expedition can be made to appear exceedingly dangerous, although the ease with which disasters are imagined need not reflect their actual likelihood."
in case of finasteride that leads to the following results:
" A significant placebo effect has been detected in patients who were informed of potential sexual side effects before taking finasteride [15]. In a blinded control study, 107 subjects with a clinical diagnosis of BPH were randomized to receive finasteride (5 mg/day) for 1 year with 1 group receiving counseling (n = 55) on the drug sexual side effects and the other group not receiving such counseling (n = 52). The phrase used to inform counseled patients was this drug ‘may cause erectile dysfunction, decreased libido, problems of ejaculation but these are uncommon’. Those patients informed of the potential sexual side effects of the drug reported a significant higher proportion of sexual side effects (43.6%) as compared to those who were not informed (15.3%). The incidence of erectile dysfunction, decreased libido, and ejaculation disorders was 9.6, 7.7, and 5.7% for patients not informed, and 30.9, 23.6, and 16.3% for informed patients [15]. "
- bias of availability
"there are many situations in which people assess the frequency of a class or the probability of an event by the ease with which instances or occurrences can be brought to mind. for example, one may assess the risk of heart attack among middle-aged people by recalling such occurrences among one's acquaintances. similarly, one may evaluate the probability that a given business venture will fail by imagining various difficulties it could encounter. this judgmental heuristic is called availability. availability is alliected by factors other than frequency and probability. consequently, the reliance on availability leads to predictable biases and mistakes in evaluating risks properly. "
in case of finasteride we have the following results:
people who experience side effects are way more likely to express themself over the internet compared to people who just keep the hair and barely think about it. these people who then spend their time on the internet crying over side effects, researching over side effects then ofc meet other people with the same problems (note: finasteride gets taken by millions and considering these numbers there will also be good amount of numbers of people who experience side effects (studies always report the side effect range being between 3% to 8%). and then we have an echo chamber situation. all of a sudden you only read about side effect stories, all of a sudden the numbers in the studies dont make sense anymore, all of a sudden the studies must be fake, all of a sudden you believe the side effect rate isnt 4% but 99% and everbody who doesnt agree with you is lying jflol.
read more here: https://looksmax.org/threads/looksm...-decision-making-caution-high-iq-only.230444/ "
1. Nobody needs to take finasteride
2. if you have even just a 4% chance of getting what I have right now It’s not worth it.
great argument.
placebo is definitely a thing, i remember when i used to take MDMA with friends, after getting told for our entire childhood that drugs will kill you etc. there were always 2-3 guys saying "i'm dying, i'm having a heart attack" when in reality nothing ever happened to them and it was a mixture of not knowing what the experience would be like and the horror stories they've been told since childhood, imagination can be damn strong
am i on the wrong forum? the comments on lookism are way more mature, seems like they don't have all these angry teenage virgins like we do
You didnt even take finasteride u fucking shizo. Ur claiming that TOPICAL minoxidil gave u pfs JFL1. Nobody needs to take finasteride
2. if you have even just a 4% chance of getting what I have right now It’s not worth it.
You didnt even take finasteride u fucking shizo. Ur claiming that TOPICAL minoxidil gave u pfs JFL
yeah he literally blamed that minox caused pfs for himis that true? just lol if thats true
First of all you should know that he has hair not because of Finasteride but because of hair transplant
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This is how his hair looked like before transplant but on finasteride
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As far as credibility goes he is no higher than anyone on this forum. Infact, here he was on forums in 2014 complaining about never getting woman
View attachment 865809
He also claims to work in the pharmaceutical industry so of course he supports finasteride
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And here he is 6 years ago saying Finasteride works by “chemically castrating you”
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So he works in the pharmaceutical industry, admits that Finasteride chemically castrates you, only has hair because of transplant, yet still continues to make weekly videos about why Finasteride is “risk-free” and effective at growing hair.’ I would not say he is reliable.
exactly- most people are unself aware afno i think even with people who says "no side effects" has some degree of erection quality loss but they don't care.
Correct. Most guys won't notice it because the change happens slowly and they only really notice the libido/EQ loss after quitting the drug for a few weeks. The "1-2% of guys get side effects" is a complete lie.no i think even with people who says "no side effects" has some degree of erection quality loss but they don't care.
his old yt channel
btw, he was skinny as fuck even though he can lift so many weights. wtf
He's a liar unfortunately:
Can I Pull Off the Bald Look?
Thing is I’m sensitive to hair loss, it runs in my family and I have been struggling the past few years to contain it. Thing is though I’m also planning on starting my first cycle soon and realize there is a good chance I will lose it all even with hair loss treatment. What I use currently to...forums.t-nation.com
TLDR: Not natty like he claims and he had side effects from finasteride when he started. But now of course DHT is a "trash hormone" now that he's become the pro-finasteride guy on youtube. It wouldn't surprise me if he started selling his own products like More Plates More Dates soon.
I used to watch some of their videos (some good content) but now I'm very careful taking any advice from them.
he was a skinny ass person at the age of 30 when he was a fitness coach.275lb for 1 rep isn't big weight even that fat fuck vegan gains can bench more
why would he roid if he's prone to hairloss? He may be on trt dosage at most, he's too narcy about his hair to risk losing it for a little bit more muscle
His lifts are good but nothing crazy tbh
Sides from fin can actually go away for some people after your body adjusts to the drug
This I heard it from a lot of guys that most sides go away with time as your body adjust275lb for 1 rep isn't big weight even that fat fuck vegan gains can bench more
why would he roid if he's prone to hairloss? He may be on trt dosage at most, he's too narcy about his hair to risk losing it for a little bit more muscle
His lifts are good but nothing crazy tbh
Sides from fin can actually go away for some people after your body adjusts to the drug
like how many months ?This I heard it from a lot of guys that most sides go away with time as your body adjust
1-2 monthslike how many months ?