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My midface is similar to guy on left (except nose looks better), but same jaw misalignment...thank god I did not get Le Fort I.

That beta chimp mouth is ogre.
 
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he has chimp pheno
He looks more threatening on the left pic, on right he is just chimped out. And thee bad kind of chimp.
Maybe I am coping because I can't get a Le Fort III to fix my flat face and mewing does jack shit.
 
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The Horseshoe Lefort is what gives the chimp look because it doesnt advance the whole subnasal area.

Here you can see the difference between the normal "high" Lefort 1 and the Horseshoe Lefort:
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In the Horseshoe Lefort the cut doesnt go all the way up to the base of the nose like in a normal Lefort 1.
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This is what a "High" Lefort 1 result looks like:
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The Horseshoe Lefort is what gives the chimp look because it doesnt advance the whole subnasal area.

Here you can see the difference between the normal "high" Lefort 1 and the Horseshoe Lefort:
maxillary-orthognathic-surgery-33-638.jpg


In the Horseshoe Lefort the cut doesnt go all the way up to the base of the nose like in a normal Lefort 1.
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This is what a "High" Lefort 1 result looks like:
journal_of_stomatology_or-010-jpg.216874



What's difference between Quadrangular and horse shoe lefort 4
 
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Nothing was going to ascend him anyway, it was over from birth.
 
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There are not such things as "Quadrangular Lefort 4" or "Horseshoe Lefort 4", if thats what you mean...



Sorry I mean quadandular lefort 2 and horse shoe lefort 2
 
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Thats why you need high lefort 1 up to the alar base and not bottom of or under the nose

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My midface is similar to guy on left (except nose looks better), but same jaw misalignment...thank god I did not get Le Fort I.

That beta chimp mouth is ogre.

What LeFort did you get???
 
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Sorry I mean quadandular lefort 2 and horse shoe lefort 2

Jfl at this newcel, theres just qaudandular LeFort1 possible for now. 2 will just be relaeased 2025+ or even longer. Horseshoe lefort wouldnt benfeit him in his case. He would need TobaccaDonkey LeFort5 in his case, to look passable.
 
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Jfl at this newcel, theres just qaudandular LeFort1 possible for now. 2 will just be relaeased 2025+ or even longer. Horseshoe lefort wouldnt benfeit him in his case. He would need TobaccaDonkey LeFort5 in his case, to look passable.




I'm not a new cel also I've seen mod talking about Quadrangular Lefort 2 before
Jfl at this newcel, theres just qaudandular LeFort1 possible for now. 2 will just be relaeased 2025+ or even longer. Horseshoe lefort wouldnt benfeit him in his case. He would need TobaccaDonkey LeFort5 in his case, to look passable.




Also roughly what it looks like.



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His entire face came forward some what.
 
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Sorry I mean quadandular lefort 2 and horse shoe lefort 2
Quadrangular Lefort 2 is like a Lefort 2 that includes the infrorbitals rims and doesnt include the nose.

As far as i know theres not such thing as a "Horseshoe Lefort 2".
 
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Quadrangular Lefort 2 is like a Lefort 2 that includes the infrorbitals rims and doesnt include the nose.

As far as i know theres not such thing as a "Horseshoe Lefort 2".



Wouldn't a simple lefort 3 make it more efficent and easier to work with ?
 
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Quadrangular Lefort 2 is like a Lefort 2 that includes the infrorbitals rims and doesnt include the nose.

As far as i know theres not such thing as a "Horseshoe Lefort 2".
Is Sailer the only surgeon unethical enough to perform this rare lefort on a non-deformed patient?
 
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Quadrangular Lefort 2 is like a Lefort 2 that includes the infrorbitals rims and doesnt include the nose.

As far as i know theres not such thing as a "Horseshoe Lefort 2".

what the fucks the point in having all of the risks that come with messing with the orbitals and not even moving the nose forward?
Wouldn't a simple lefort 3 make it more efficent and easier to work with ?
 
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The Horseshoe Lefort is what gives the chimp look because it doesnt advance the whole subnasal area.

Here you can see the difference between the normal "high" Lefort 1 and the Horseshoe Lefort:
maxillary-orthognathic-surgery-33-638.jpg


In the Horseshoe Lefort the cut doesnt go all the way up to the base of the nose like in a normal Lefort 1.
fig23.png


This is what a "High" Lefort 1 result looks like:
journal_of_stomatology_or-010-jpg.216874

Exactly

Wouldn't a simple lefort 3 make it more efficent and easier to work with ?

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Wouldn't a simple lefort 3 make it more efficent and easier to work with ?
A normal Lefort 3 would advance also the lateral orbital rims, the zygos and the nose.
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A modified Lefort 3 would achieve the same as a normal Lefort 3 but without advancing the nose.

It depends or your needs, but probably it would be easier to find someone willing to perform a Quadrangular Lefort 2 than someone willing to perform a Lefort 3.
 
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A normal Lefort 3 would advance also the lateral orbital rims, the zygos and the nose.
View attachment 281042

A modified Lefort 3 would achieve the same as a normal Lefort 3 but without advancing the nose.

It depends or your needs, but probably it would be easier to find someone willing to perform a Quadrangular Lefort 2 than someone willing to perform a Lefort 3.

Pretty sure modified lefort 3 also advances nose?
 
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A normal Lefort 3 would advance also the lateral orbital rims, the zygos and the nose.
View attachment 281042

A modified Lefort 3 would achieve the same as a normal Lefort 3 but without advancing the nose.

It depends or your needs, but probably it would be easier to find someone willing to perform a Quadrangular Lefort 2 than someone willing to perform a Lefort 3.



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Pretty sure modified lefort 3 also advances nose?
No, it doesnt.

The osteotomy consisted of a Le Fort III without the nasofrontal component.
By not including the nasal pyramid in the osteotomy design, the size, position, and nasofrontal angle in patients with adequate facial balance is maintained.
 
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It looks to me that the reason why his mouth looks slightly chimp-ish, is:

1- because not the whole maxilla was moved
2- because he didnt get enough upwards rotation on the maxilla
3- because he absolutely lacks cheeckbones and zygomas

so basically his cheeckbones etc. stayed in their old place, while maxilla moved forwards and not enough upwards (and not the whole area was moved that is supposed to be moved).
 
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Because some people have already a good nasal bridge projection but their infraorbitals are retruded.

what should I do everything is retruded LeRope 9?
or will a modified lefort 3 and bimax be enough despite nose being a bit far back?
 
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A normal Lefort 3 would advance also the lateral orbital rims, the zygos and the nose.
View attachment 281042

A modified Lefort 3 would achieve the same as a normal Lefort 3 but without advancing the nose.

It depends or your needs, but probably it would be easier to find someone willing to perform a Quadrangular Lefort 2 than someone willing to perform a Lefort 3.

That.
 
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OP ur coping so hard rn, he clearly looks better

You can get submalar implants along with Lefort I and look like so:
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Didn't for me
Attached is After and before my lf1
I Think the reason why you didn't get chimp mouth is because your mouth area is very recessed with flat philtrum while your upper maxilla is ok.
That chin looks ridiculous btw
 
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Did you get ccw rotation? Btw good result but you should consider a reduction genioplasty
Yeh I was waiting for swelling to go down to decide on the chin reduction
I Think the reason why you didn't get chimp mouth is because your mouth area is very recessed with flat philtrum while your upper maxilla is ok.
That chin looks ridiculous btw
Nah my chin isnt too bad i get compliments in real life on it, i got high lf1 btw
 
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Was it a straight advancement or with counter clockwise rotation? @Norwooder
 
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My midface is similar to guy on left (except nose looks better), but same jaw misalignment...thank god I did not get Le Fort I.

That beta chimp mouth is ogre.
no, he has some sort of midface forward growth problem and lack of nasal support. he needs major paransasal implants at very least. his mide face was now sunken in compared to rest cuz rest is now chadlitish.
OP ur coping so hard rn, he clearly looks better

You can get submalar implants along with Lefort I and look like so:
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how did the shape of his bottom jaw appear to change so much when just the top jaw was moved?
he had his upper jaw widened which must also create illusion of better lower jaw
 
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Surely a paranasal implant could fix the 'chimp mouth'
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jfl at this dumbass and his surgeon. he needed quadrangular lefort 1 to also fix his sunken midface not what he got.
 

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