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Lefort or death
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thisYeah that's all typical PSL antiscientific propaganda you're talking here, you got no clue what you're talking about.
For starters, no one actually requiring orthognathic surgery will be told to get implants if they do their research and go to an experienced doctor. There's a fucking reason it's mainly done for functional reasons, 90% of jaw surgery patients don't get surgery cause they just dislike their mouthbreather face. It is not a cosmetic procedure.
So who really needs orthognatic surgery? Patients with malocclusions and significantly recessed upper and lower jaws as a result. It's a very complicated diagnosis, it isn't just "holy shit boy you look recessed af hop into the OR and I'll give you 15mm from BSSO" as you probably think. You'll never see someone looking like this
and having good occlusion. They'd obviously require maxillo-mandibular advancement and any type of implant would be a bad idea. You seem to be associating anyone who has recessed chin/jaw with mouth-breathing which is obviously false.
However when you're telling me someone like this dude
needed to first get some absurd BSSO + LeFort I advancement to "max out his potential" I can tell that you've frequented on PSL boards way too much. Jaw surgery would simply mean he would have to intentionally have his otherwise perfect teeth fucked up to get a malocclusion then have double jaw and then wait a bit to follow your advice and "ascend" with an implant lol. Insane downtime, money and it would probably be not worth it. And no, in the after photo this isn't a recessed midface that you see that needs Lefort I as you're probably going to say.
By the way take a look at this
Can Custom Implants Restore My Jawline After Orthognathic Surgery? - Plastic Surgeon | Dr. Barry L. Eppley, MD
Q: Dr. Eppley, I had orthognathic surgery to improve my bite and make my jaw more symmetrical. Even though my bite is better, I now realize that my jaw is too small and narrow. I have been researching to find an implant which is able to make my jaw both longer and wider from the […]www.eppleyplasticsurgery.com
Want more?
How Can I make My Jawline Look Better After Orthognathic Surgery? - Plastic Surgeon | Dr. Barry L. Eppley, MD
Q: Dr. Eppley, I had in orthognatic surgery several years ago for a bad bite that gave me a lot of problems with my teeth and pain in my jaws every morning. While the surgery went fine from a technical standpoint (my bite is better) it left me with a very bad look. I think […]www.eppleyplasticsurgery.com
Custom Jaw Angle Implants after Orthognathic Surgery - Plastic Surgeon | Dr. Barry L. Eppley, MD
Custom jaw angle implants are usually best to reconstruct/augment the mandibular rami after orthographic surgery.www.eppleyplasticsurgery.com
Will Jaw Angle Implants Help After Jaw Advancement Surgery? - Plastic Surgeon | Dr. Barry L. Eppley, MD
Jaw angle implants can help restore the shape of the jaw angles that is often lost or changed after orthognathic surgery.www.eppleyplasticsurgery.com
People that got literally what you suggested to "max out their bone mass potential bruh" ended up with a shittier looking jaw which is to be expected since orthognathic surgery and jaw implants are not comparable procedures.
The thread is literally all about Lefort III
Also as far as your second statement,
An Update on Midface Advancement Using Le Fort II and III Distraction Osteogenesis
Le Fort II and III distraction osteogenesis (DO) is a powerful tool in the craniofacial armamentarium that is most often employed to treat patients with craniofacial syndromes such as Crouzon, Apert, or Pfeiffer syndrome who present with midfacial retrusion, ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
you still alive papamodified lefort III is almost as simple as lefort I.
I wonr write much, just do ur research from here
Lefort 4 jfllate last year i talked to a doctor who made a case of lefort III that you can find on google. he showed me the patient's pictures. there was a scar that was kind of ugly on the side of his head. They have to open your head, pull the skin to access the bone, basically remove your face (skin) and put it on again. He said he wouldn't do that in me not even for all the money in the world.
and he is a top tier surgeon.
he told me that in harvard there are some god tier surgeons who pull foreheads forward.(lefort IV? jfl)
he said that the alternative to have the same effect as a lefort III in normal cases is to use an infra-orbital implant.
in other words, this threads title is wrong. modified lefort III is a very invasive surgery.
Mlf3 won't work for me since I need my nasal bone to be advanced.Hopefuel for @LooksOverAll
Will you post your pics after you ascend / before you go ER?Mlf3 won't work for me since I need my nasal bone to be advanced.