LEGIT SOFTMAX EYE COLOR CHANGE (GTFIH)

[Deleted member 318558]

doubt you’re actually gonna follow through on this, probably not going to work, good luck though.

I promise I will doing first session rn actually

 

[Deleted member 136057]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

Im gonna start doing this also. Do you press straight into ur bare iris or do you close your eyes first and press thru ur eyelid? also wdym press hard like how hard, so that it almost hurts?

 

[alurmo]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

so whos gonna be our idiotic guine pig whos gonna try this, if op doesnt atleast post HIS before and after im calling bs

 

[tarkdriad33]

holy cope

 

[Deleted member 318558]

Im gonna start doing this also. Do you press straight into ur bare iris or do you close your eyes first and press thru ur eyelid? also wdym press hard like how hard, so that it almost hurts?

Eyes must be open. You need to make direct contact with the PIE, press just a little, then kind of try to move it around

It will obviously hurt, but if you can barely open your eyes don’t do it any more. It’s a little easier for me since I’m used to touching my eye for wearing contacts. Hurts a little more to make actual contact tho

so whos gonna be our idiotic guine pig whos gonna try this, if op doesnt atleast post HIS before and after

I’m starting today, I’ll post a follow up thread once I start seeing results

im calling bs

I cited med studies in the guide, this is a well researched syndrome.

 

[Deleted member 136057]

Eyes must be open. You need to make direct contact with the PIE, press just a little, then kind of try to move it around

It will obviously hurt, but if you can barely open your eyes don’t do it any more. It’s a little easier for me since I’m used to touching my eye for wearing contacts. Hurts a little more to make actual contact tho


I’m starting today, I’ll post a follow up thread once I start seeing results

I cited med studies in the guide, this is a well researched syndrome.

the only reason im kind of hesitant is because if this worked why wouldnt it be some sort of procedure already? this is genuinely a billion dollar idea

 

[Deleted member 318558]

the only reason im kind of hesitant is because if this worked why wouldnt it be some sort of procedure already? this is genuinely a billion dollar idea

It is. Stoma, lazer eye surgery, etc. stripping melanin is a procedure, but it costs a lot.

This is just a different method for the same science that’s already been researched

 

[Deleted member 318558]

Up

 

[LukaKhang]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

Mirin I will drop one in a few days too

 

[Deleted member 318558]

Mirin I will drop one in a few days too

A guide?
also what's with the jfl react? ts is real

 

[LukaKhang]

A guide?
also what's with the jfl react? ts is real

oh I mostly jfl everything or love it
more like a pill type of thread

 

[Deleted member 318558]

oh I mostly jfl everything or love it

ohh alr. I'm trying to get into BotB w this thread and I dont think jfl counts as positive reaction

more like a pill type of thread

tag me so I can see it bhai

 

[LukaKhang]

ohh alr. I'm trying to get into BotB w this thread and I dont think jfl counts as positive reaction

tag me so I can see it bhai

okay bebe

 

[Deleted member 318558]

@Nexom @SlayerJonas @Hernan could you move this thread to lm please?

Also is it BotB worthy?

 

[Deleted member 318558]

last bump, I'm dragging it

 

[Deleted member 318558]

b

 

[Phaethon]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

I went looking and found out some clinics offer laser depigmentation for people with pds to speed up the process when used along side regular procedures. It's not a standard treatment and is only available under specific scenarios.

Maybe a good way to larp into insurance paid surgery.

Pigment Dispersion Syndrome & Heterochromia – Laser Approach

Pigment dispersion syndrome may cause heterochromia and elevated eye pressure. Learn symptoms, risks, pigmentary glaucoma and selective laser management options.

mylumineyes.com

 

[Quetila]

Eyes must be open. You need to make direct contact with the PIE, press just a little, then kind of try to move it around

bro this isn’t even about being low inhib anymore, it’s about not having a nervous system how tf are u gonna touch ur shit i fucking can’t

 

[Deleted member 318558]

I went looking and found out some clinics offer laser depigmentation for people with pds to speed up the process when used along side regular procedures. It's not a standard treatment and is only available under specific scenarios.

Maybe a good way to larp into insurance paid surgery.

Pigment Dispersion Syndrome & Heterochromia – Laser Approach

Pigment dispersion syndrome may cause heterochromia and elevated eye pressure. Learn symptoms, risks, pigmentary glaucoma and selective laser management options.

mylumineyes.com

View attachment 4675092

Yeah but lazer surgery costs money, it was talked abt in the linked BotB thread from the intro. This is just a free alternative. Interesting idea tho, might hold onto this

bro this isn’t even about being low inhib anymore, it’s about not having a nervous system how tf are u gonna touch ur shit i fucking can’t

Yeah it’s easy if you’ve worn contacts, js follow this video (minus the contact lens part)



I have a video of me doing it if you wanna see that

 

[Quetila]

I have a video of me doing it if you wanna see that

send video where u do it without contacts

 

[_Zygomatic_]

ok after having read ur sources and reading up on this i think this is kinda highly risky i study biology and what ur describing, putting ur finger on ur eye applying light pressure and moving ur eye is like kinda retarded, odds are you seriously fuck up your eye, additionally you said one of the symptoms is glaucoma, that shit is bad news and i would t do anything to risk that, i have T07 eyes so they’re already pretty light and while i think even lighter would be cool and all i seriously wouldn’t fuck with my eyes. like vision is probably the worst thing to lose out of all ur senses bro ngl stay safe but i am interested to see ur results tho lol

 

[Deleted member 318558]

ok after having read ur sources and reading up on this i think this is kinda highly risky i study biology and what ur describing, putting ur finger on ur eye applying light pressure and moving ur eye is like kinda retarded, odds are you seriously fuck up your eye, additionally you said one of the symptoms is glaucoma, that shit is bad news and i would t do anything to risk that, i have T07 eyes so they’re already pretty light and while i think even lighter would be cool and all i seriously wouldn’t fuck with my eyes. like vision is probably the worst thing to lose out of all ur senses bro ngl stay safe but i am interested to see ur results tho lol

I’m already vision impaired, and have pretty T30 eyes. I hate my eyes so much, I’m fine with risking it. Anything with your eyes has some risk.

 

[_Zygomatic_]

I’m already vision impaired, and have pretty T30 eyes. I hate my eyes so much, I’m fine with risking it. Anything with your eyes has some risk.

yeah but like the logic is there right but i think the mechanics is the issue, it’s kind of hard to apply the exact same pressure each time u do this and also u could probably pop a blood vessel cause the ones in the surface of the eye are very thin and fragile, but to each there own like i said i want to see the results so i can’t pretend like im not interested to see what happens

 

[Deleted member 318558]

yeah but like the logic is there right but i think the mechanics is the issue, it’s kind of hard to apply the exact same pressure each time u do this and also u could probably pop a blood vessel cause the ones in the surface of the eye are very thin and fragile, but to each there own like i said i want to see the results so i can’t pretend like im not interested to see what happens

Popping a blood vessel in the iris is alright, I’ve had that happen to me before (not from PDS or anything), it’s just a little painless blood in the eye, cleans after a week or two

 

[_Zygomatic_]

Popping a blood vessel in the iris is alright, I’ve had that happen to me before (not from PDS or anything), it’s just a little painless blood in the eye, cleans after a week or two

yeah but the issue here is that if u pop a vessel which admittedly isn’t too bad and continue to do ur eye touching exercise u might just give urself an infection and that will just make u blind but im not a doctor

 

[iblamebones000101]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

proud to be in a thread going into BOTB gray status revoked

 

[Deleted member 318558]

proud to be in a thread going into BOTB gray status revoked

Hopefully but mods haven’t gotten back to me yet

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

If it works then tag me in results bhai

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

ohh alr. I'm trying to get into BotB w this thread and I dont think jfl counts as positive reaction

tag me so I can see it bhai

Dont worry. If this works i'll copy pasta into a new thread, but add your results. Then it'll head right to BTOB.

 

[karmacitathugmaxx]

hope ts works because it will be way easier than cooking up elbastardo's cope serum

 

[Deleted member 318558]

hope ts works because it will be way easier than cooking up elbastardo's cope serum

I’ll tag you in the update thread

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

I’m already vision impaired, and have pretty T30 eyes. I hate my eyes so much, I’m fine with risking it. Anything with your eyes has some risk.

I was actually black pilling internally on your method as pure T30 cope. This is because if you look at PSD progression afaik they get lighter but are still dark and look like crap.

Futhermore afaiknew, while laser pigmentation exist Stroma produces dog shit aesthetic results. IE a grey eye with lots of left over brown. Nothing about that looks good or natural, its mostly cope and people would be better off never having done it.

I've been following stroma for 1-2 years now. There also seems to be very limited number of picture of actual results instead its mostly just photoshop larping before and after of people who haven't had the procedure done.

However after looking more into what you mentioned about lasers for PDS specifically I came across Lumineyes® XTRA. Some of there results are shit, some of them are good. But theres a good number of pictures and at least some people are getting decent results. Unfortunately it seems limited to turkey by the person who came up with it. And they have somewhat sketchy website. I would want a fuck ton more info on this before I trust it(I have blue eyes anyways, kek), but it gives your methodology some basis at least. Since normal PDS progression alone left it somewhat in question.

 

[Deleted member 318558]

I was actually black pilling internally on your method as pure T30 cope. This is because if you look at PSD progression afaik they get lighter but are still dark and look like crap.

Futhermore afaiknew, while laser pigmentation exist Stroma produces dog shit aesthetic results. IE a grey eye with lots of left over brown. Nothing about that looks good or natural, its mostly cope and people would be better off never having done it.

View attachment 4676038

I've been following stroma for 1-2 years now. There also seems to be very limited number of picture of actual results instead its mostly just photoshop larping before and after of people who haven't had the procedure done.

However after looking more into what you mentioned about lasers for PDS specifically I came across Lumineyes® XTRA. Some of there results are shit, some of them are good. But theres a good number of pictures and at least some people are getting decent results. Unfortunately it seems limited to turkey by the person who came up with it. And they have somewhat sketchy website. I would want a fuck ton more info on this before I trust it(I have blue eyes anyways, kek), but it gives your methodology some basis at least. Since normal PDS progression alone left it somewhat in question.

View attachment 4676055

Looks interesting, I’ll look into this on my follow up thread.

Def don’t think IPE Pressing (that’s what I’m naming purposefully induced PDS) will have this dramatic results, but more than natural PDS.

Thanks for this

 

[Ruinedbyfaceshape]

instructions unclear i just poked my eye and being rushed to the ER

 

[Deleted member 318558]

instructions unclear i just poked my eye and being rushed to the ER

Leboi

 

[sdram4]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

so by scratching my eyes im basically removing the pigment

 

[ogrecel67]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

So long story short I’d just need to directly rub my eyeball with my fingertip for like five minutes every day?

 

[Deleted member 318558]

so by scratching my eyes im basically removing the pigment

So long story short I’d just need to directly rub my eyeball with my fingertip for like five minutes every day?

Apply light pressure to the IRIS, then shift it around very slightly.

The friction is what removes the melanin

 

[halabi]

Apply light pressure to the IRIS, then shift it around very slightly.

The friction is what removes the melanin

didnt ehren do this

 

[Deleted member 318558]

didnt ehren do this

as mentioned in the thread, yes he might've been trolling tho

 

[halabi]

as mentioned in the thread

you think im reading allat?

 

[halabi]

as mentioned in the thread, yes he might've been trolling tho

ehren also did sungazing and many other methods not only this

 

[Deleted member 318558]

ehren also did sungazing and many other methods not only this

sungazing doesn't do shit, read the paragraph abt that on the bottom of the guide

 

[ogrecel67]

Apply light pressure to the IRIS, then shift it around very slightly.

The friction is what removes the melanin

Im probably a schizophrenic fuck but I feel like my eye got lighter

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

View attachment 4672982
D60-C30 over 4 years of natural PDS, purposeful would prob be faster

It literally looks worse
Just eat raw primal and do the mason method, way simpler

 

[jeoyw9192]

It literally looks worse
Just eat raw primal and do the mason method, way simpler

What's the mason method?

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

What's the mason method?

dm him

https://www.instagram.com/masonjinfu/

 

[jeoyw9192]

dm him

https://www.instagram.com/masonjinfu/

Legit?

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

Legit?

yep look at his page

 

[Deleted member 318558]

It literally looks worse
Just eat raw primal and do the mason method, way simpler

"Eat meat to lower melanin"

smd if you want some meat