Let me hear your opinion on why God doesn’t exist; I’ll debunk it

[Shrek2OnDvD]

I’m not against the concept of god or a creator at all. If the universe was created by something, then great. But if you tell me this creator will burn his own creations in hell for an eternity, then I start having a problem with it

Your point is also mute. No one can prove nor disprove the existence of god for certain. The truth is none of us truly knows what happens after we die beyond the physical. Do we go to heaven or hell? do we reincarnate? do we just stop existing? you won’t know until you’ve experienced it

also again the burden of proof. atheism is not a claim it is a lack of belief. you cannot prove the existence of something by demanding that others disprove your claim

 

[Deleted member 145648]

Claiming the universe is eternal doesn’t save you from a creator it collapses under both logic and science,the Big Bang shows space, time, and matter had a beginning. ‘Always existed’ ignores that time itself began; what existed before that? Something contingent always points to a necessary cause. Pretending the universe just exists forever is wishful thinking. Reality demands an uncaused source that’s what we call God.”

Your eternalist dodge is a castle built on sand;deny creation, deny God, yet reality itself screams for an uncaused, necessary origin that origin is what we call God the ultimate architect behind the cosmos, standing above time, matter, and energy, unbound and eternal, the one true anchor of existence. All your ‘eternal universe’ fantasies are merely armor against admitting that such a source exists reality does not bend to illusions

Holy shit i didnt notice you replied.So the big bang isnt the start of the universe,it is the moment the universe expand.So matters,energy and time shrink into a very small point,create a point with the density we cannot mesure.So we done?I already proved matters,enery time and space are eternal,the laws in this universe is eternal and theres no start.Isnt that valid enough to prove theres no creator

 

[Deleted member 145648]

Claiming the universe is eternal doesn’t save you from a creator it collapses under both logic and science,the Big Bang shows space, time, and matter had a beginning. ‘Always existed’ ignores that time itself began; what existed before that? Something contingent always points to a necessary cause. Pretending the universe just exists forever is wishful thinking. Reality demands an uncaused source that’s what we call God.”

Your eternalist dodge is a castle built on sand;deny creation, deny God, yet reality itself screams for an uncaused, necessary origin that origin is what we call God the ultimate architect behind the cosmos, standing above time, matter, and energy, unbound and eternal, the one true anchor of existence. All your ‘eternal universe’ fantasies are merely armor against admitting that such a source exists reality does not bend to illusions

So i will call point A which is a space include of matters and energy before the big bang happen to prove it easier.Time can be seen differently as einstein proved,as long as light exist.Light,made of photons which is matter and they exist and move inside point A.So time did exist before the big bang