LGD-4033 during puberty worth it?

[medialcanthus]

stats 16 still growing/ htn /5'10-11/ 55kg planning 2 consistent weeks of training pre cycle and currently on a clean bulk

the plan is 8 weeks of LGD 5-7.5 mg a day overtime with 15mg MK677 (for max hunger/bulk and good sleep)
with 4 weeks of enclo as PCT and maybe enclo during (week 2 to 4) to not feel the suppression as much
and NAC

obviously doing bloodwork before but im not starting with a test base bc i dont want plate closure

the reason for this cycle is obviously for more mass, my frame is wide, im lean and i have good insertions, but mass is really bad
i used to be treated like a GOD in middle school, before building muscle was relevant and only face mattered
so i need to keep up, there are literally LTNs getting chad level glaze just for being jacked, and by 17 i will be in university, so GGs if i dont bulk up

the main risk i want to avoid as much as possible is plate closure or stunted growth, because the doctors said my final height will likely be around 6'2
need some insight if it might be too early

@SlayerJonas @vincentzygo @Linus1888 @Copercel @Hernan

 

[ybuyhgui]

no test = no orals

 

[Hernan]

idk i've never even heard of it. @imontheloose maybe?

 

[Orka]

no test = no gear.

Can't be the only way, test is so complicated to do for me, bunch of different people on this forum saying different things on how to make sure you preserve your testicles

 

[medialcanthus]

no test = no gear.

the guy with the lgd thread didnt start with a test base either and gained 11kg and recovered retaining most of the weight

i would gladly take test if i was done growing though

 

[SlayerJonas]

planning 2 consistent weeks of training pre cycle

Two weeks of training and blud thinks about doing a cycle already

MK677 (for max hunger/bulk and good sleep)

You know you aren't planning on using it for that. GH in every scenario

with 4 weeks of enclo as PCT

Hcg or ldar, especially in your use case

 

[ybuyhgui]

Can't be the only way, test is so complicated to do for me, bunch of different people on this forum saying different things on how to make sure you preserve your testicles

hcg periodically and you'll be fine

 

[Orka]

hcg periodically and you'll be fine

So just straight test then hcg every once in a while? No AI's, anavar, etc.?

 

[medialcanthus]

Two weeks of training and blud thinks about doing a cycle already

nah i've trained and bulked up since april i just lost my gains over the summer cuz i couldn't train

ive been training again since last month, just not 5x + cardio like i am right now

You know you aren't planning on using it for that. GH in every scenario

i am. i dont do tiktokcel MK copes, i am super skinny

Hcg or ldar, especially in your use case

i ordered HCG as well just didnt mention it

 

[ybuyhgui]

So just straight test then hcg every once in a while? No AI's, anavar, etc.?

ai is for controlling your estrogen, anavar is a non-essential add on

 

[medialcanthus]

ai is for controlling your estrogen, anavar is a non-essential add on

im assuming low dose AI is necessary if i use HCG

 

[m0ss26]

no test = no orals

Only passable one is Ostarine (mk2866)

 

[ybuyhgui]

im assuming low dose AI is necessary if i use HCG

They're unrelated really, just see how you respond to test but usually very low dose ai is good

 

[m0ss26]

ive been training again since last month, just not 5x + cardio like i am right now

I will bet my whole life savings you will waste your cycle then

 

[medialcanthus]

I will bet my whole life savings you will waste your cycle then

wdym

 

[Sachlichkeit]

stats 16 still growing/ htn /5'10-11/ 55kg planning 2 consistent weeks of training pre cycle and currently on a clean bulk

the plan is 8 weeks of LGD 5-7.5 mg a day overtime with 15mg MK677 (for max hunger/bulk and good sleep)
with 4 weeks of enclo as PCT and maybe enclo during (week 2 to 4) to not feel the suppression as much
and NAC

obviously doing bloodwork before but im not starting with a test base bc i dont want plate closure

the reason for this cycle is obviously for more mass, my frame is wide, im lean and i have good insertions, but mass is really bad
i used to be treated like a GOD in middle school, before building muscle was relevant and only face mattered
so i need to keep up, there are literally LTNs getting chad level glaze just for being jacked, and by 17 i will be in university, so GGs if i dont bulk up

the main risk i want to avoid as much as possible is plate closure or stunted growth, because the doctors said my final height will likely be around 6'2
need some insight if it might be too early

@SlayerJonas @vincentzygo @Linus1888 @Copercel @Hernan

Share your High Protein low fat diet

Around 275-300g in total. Shoot for 1.5g per lbs quality protein on roids IMO. 1g gives lackluster results in my and others experience. Currently: 4000 calories 300/500/89 p/c/f 1g Test Goddam bro, your an absolute unit and your above 6ft am i right?

looksmax.org

I use Mk purely for appetite & have a blood glucose kit as I run HGH in tandem. only 10mgs. If you are concerned about diabetes Periactin for appetite + no GH secretion. 20mg MK677 is equivalent to like 1-2 IU HGH. ~45lb gain in 6months

the main risk i want to avoid as much as possible is plate closure or stunted growth, because the doctors said my final height will likely be around 6'2
need some insight if it might be too early

Estrogen is the primary trigger for closing growth plates. Control it with AI's and you can extend your growth window past 6'2, not to mention that HGH and Androgens work synergistically for growth

Test
HGH
AI
HCG

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

no test = no orals

Fr these fucking greys, muh sarms and mk677

 

[skullmog]

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stats 16 still growing/ htn /5'10-11/ 55kg planning 2 consistent weeks of training pre cycle and currently on a clean bulk

the plan is 8 weeks of LGD 5-7.5 mg a day overtime with 15mg MK677 (for max hunger/bulk and good sleep)
with 4 weeks of enclo as PCT and maybe enclo during (week 2 to 4) to not feel the suppression as much
and NAC

obviously doing bloodwork before but im not starting with a test base bc i dont want plate closure

the reason for this cycle is obviously for more mass, my frame is wide, im lean and i have good insertions, but mass is really bad
i used to be treated like a GOD in middle school, before building muscle was relevant and only face mattered
so i need to keep up, there are literally LTNs getting chad level glaze just for being jacked, and by 17 i will be in university, so GGs if i dont bulk up

the main risk i want to avoid as much as possible is plate closure or stunted growth, because the doctors said my final height will likely be around 6'2
need some insight if it might be too early

@SlayerJonas @vincentzygo @Linus1888 @Copercel @Hernan

wait until sarm goblins realize test is safer

 

[m0ss26]

wdym

You don’t even know how to train

Go train for a year naturally and optimally then try something

You don’t want to waste cycles, you only get so many, even if you’re B&C you only get so many blasts

 

[Sachlichkeit]

You don’t even know how to train

Go train for a year naturally and optimally then try something

You don’t want to waste cycles, you only get so many, even if you’re B&C you only get so many blasts

this rationale works for building muscle but if u blast during development ur dimorphism is going to be, for lack of a better word, "on steroids."

No amount of dialed in training / nutrition is going to triple your browridge + give you a jawline like gear in puberty is

AAS cycle result as a TEEN.

The name of this thread is not bait I actually am 16 years old and I ran a cycle consisting of 250mg of test E per week and 200mg going up to 300mg of tren E per week. For about 15 weeks The goals were mainly to enhance masculinity in face and frame, build muscle and lose some fat ( not main...

looksmax.org

in minecraft obv

 

[medialcanthus]

You don’t even know how to train

Go train for a year naturally and optimally then try something

You don’t want to waste cycles, you only get so many, even if you’re B&C you only get so many blasts

i mean yeah you're probably right, but i gym to SMV max, ill be more than comfortable making slower progress at a healthy weight like 70-80 KG

the sole goal is having a decent enough mass gain multiplier before may 2026, and preferably hit goal weight as soon as possible

 

[m0ss26]

this rationale works for building muscle but if u blast during development ur dimorphism is going to be, for lack of a better word, "on steroids."

No amount of dialed in training / nutrition is going to triple your browridge + give you a jawline like gear in puberty is

AAS cycle result as a TEEN.

The name of this thread is not bait I actually am 16 years old and I ran a cycle consisting of 250mg of test E per week and 200mg going up to 300mg of tren E per week. For about 15 weeks The goals were mainly to enhance masculinity in face and frame, build muscle and lose some fat ( not main...

looksmax.org

in minecraft obv

LGD wont do shit for his looks, he needs AAS minimum


And the nigga in that thread is just lucky asf, your face doesnt change that much from gear most of the time

I’m 17 and have been blasting actual gear for a year straight btw, and was on peptides since 15

 

[Sachlichkeit]

LGD wont do shit for his looks, he needs AAS minimum


And the nigga in that thread is just lucky asf, your face doesnt change that much from gear most of the time

I’m 17 and have been blasting actual gear for a year straight btw, and was on peptides since 15

u been blasting since 16 and telling niggas who are 16 not to blast

 

[medialcanthus]

LGD wont do shit for his looks, he needs AAS minimum


And the nigga in that thread is just lucky asf, your face doesnt change that much from gear most of the time

I’m 17 and have been blasting actual gear for a year straight btw, and was on peptides since 15

nigga i dont need looks i need mass

the facial part of looksmaxing was the easiest

 

[m0ss26]

u been blasting since 16 and telling niggas who are 16 not to blast

I was telling him not to take lGD and looking at it from a pure muscle building perspective you mutt

Only fucking idiots rely on gear ascending your looks, your bones are largely done by the time your 16

 

[m0ss26]

nigga i dont need looks i need mass

the facial part of looksmaxing was the easiest

Blast test nigga

 

[Sachlichkeit]

I was telling him not to take lGD and looking at it from a pure muscle building perspective you mutt

Only fucking idiots rely on gear ascending your looks, your bones are largely done by the time your 16

yes lgd is probably retarded either pin real gear or nothing

then u have to dial in side effects diet training regimen cycle ancillaries u start studying anabolic to androgenic ratio retarded things then BOOM. Steroid autism.

faustian bargain, supercharge growth for aesthetic purposes & probably commit to lifelong TRT, training regimen, medical tests or dont do that and be normal

It sounds like he just needs to eat more I personally wouldnt do steroids/sarms for muscle mass because it goes away whereas bonemass other high test softmaxxes stick around

 

[m0ss26]

yes lgd is probably retarded either pin real gear or nothing

then u have to dial in side effects diet training regimen cycle ancillaries u start studying anabolic to androgenic ratio retarded things then BOOM. Steroid autism.

faustian bargain, supercharge growth for aesthetic purposes & probably commit to lifelong TRT, training regimen, medical tests or dont do that and be normal

It sounds like he just needs to eat more I personally wouldnt do steroids/sarms for muscle mass because it goes away whereas bonemass other high test softmaxxes stick around

All correct

Thank you

 

[medialcanthus]

Blast test nigga

yes lgd is probably retarded either pin real gear or nothing

then u have to dial in side effects diet training regimen cycle ancillaries u start studying anabolic to androgenic ratio retarded things then BOOM. Steroid autism.

faustian bargain, supercharge growth for aesthetic purposes & probably commit to lifelong TRT, training regimen, medical tests or dont do that and be normal

It sounds like he just needs to eat more I personally wouldnt do steroids/sarms for muscle mass because it goes away whereas bonemass other high test softmaxxes stick around

i read the guys thread and test+tren does seems like the better tradeoff
plus i face mog his before

instead of LGD i will probably just do the usual surplus creatine and MK for mass and a bigger appetite
alongside test&tren

 

[m0ss26]

i read the guys thread and test+tren does seems like the better tradeoff
plus i face mog his before

instead of LGD i will probably just do the usual surplus creatine and MK for mass and a bigger appetite
alongside test&tren

Tren is better when cutting due to nutrient partitioning ability and anti-catabolic effect
Me personally i get no sides from Tren but vast majority do

As a skinny guy you’d be better off doing test and something like EQ, it can be run safely for very long and give you consistent results for putting on size, plus its not very androgenic (wont rape your hair/skin)

 

[Sachlichkeit]

i read the guys thread and test+tren does seems like the better tradeoff
plus i face mog his before

instead of LGD i will probably just do the usual surplus creatine and MK for mass and a bigger appetite
alongside test&tren

 

[m0ss26]

i read the guys thread and test+tren does seems like the better tradeoff
plus i face mog his before

instead of LGD i will probably just do the usual surplus creatine and MK for mass and a bigger appetite
alongside test&tren

Dude saw one thread and immediately came to this conclusion bro
actual monkey brain
@Sachlichkeit

lowkey respect low inhib

 

[KeepCopingLads]

5'10-11/ 55kg

you are one skinny guy

 

[medialcanthus]

Dude saw one thread and immediately came to this conclusion bro
actual monkey brain
@Sachlichkeit

lowkey respect low inhib

im not doing tren bro relax

im just considering test
i actually did my LGD research for like a week straight before posting

 

[m0ss26]

im not doing tren bro relax

im just considering test
i actually did my LGD research for like a week straight before posting

Yea fairs

 

[medialcanthus]

you are one skinny guy

low bodyfat and insertions save me a little bit

im built like this

 

[KeepCopingLads]

low bodyfat and insertions save me a little bit

im built like this
View attachment 4126658

me too
im like 54-55kg and 175cm (5ft9.5)
that is actually very similar to my physique

 

[medialcanthus]

me too
im like 54-55kg and 175cm (5ft9.5)
that is actually very similar to my physique

still get JBs when my shirt is off tbh six pack halo is real

but after the last year of hs mass starts to matter more drastically

 

[ㅤ:3]

stats 16 still growing/ htn /5'10-11/ 55kg planning 2 consistent weeks of training pre cycle and currently on a clean bulk

the plan is 8 weeks of LGD 5-7.5 mg a day overtime with 15mg MK677 (for max hunger/bulk and good sleep)
with 4 weeks of enclo as PCT and maybe enclo during (week 2 to 4) to not feel the suppression as much
and NAC

obviously doing bloodwork before but im not starting with a test base bc i dont want plate closure

the reason for this cycle is obviously for more mass, my frame is wide, im lean and i have good insertions, but mass is really bad
i used to be treated like a GOD in middle school, before building muscle was relevant and only face mattered
so i need to keep up, there are literally LTNs getting chad level glaze just for being jacked, and by 17 i will be in university, so GGs if i dont bulk up

the main risk i want to avoid as much as possible is plate closure or stunted growth, because the doctors said my final height will likely be around 6'2
need some insight if it might be too early

@SlayerJonas @vincentzygo @Linus1888 @Copercel @Hernan

rad140 is better for muscle gains p sure

 

[KeepCopingLads]

still get JBs when my shirt is off tbh six pack halo is real

but after the last year of hs mass starts to matter more drastically

i dont get any
there's no scenario or situation to see me with my shirt off, so i look small
yh, i cant be at this bmi anymore, its not nice to be victim weight

 

[medialcanthus]

rad140 is better for muscle gains p sure

rad140 has worse sides with better lean mass gains
lgd is a good short term solution for my current problem

 

[medialcanthus]

i dont get any
there's no scenario or situation to see me with my shirt off, so i look small
yh, i cant be at this bmi anymore, its not nice to be victim weight

yeah tbh thin forearms and legs are a curse
gymcelling is law

 

[KeepCopingLads]

still get JBs when my shirt is off tbh six pack halo is real

also im lmtn with an eye area that dosent suit my face so i dont get any either way

 

[ㅤ:3]

rad140 has worse sides with better lean mass gains
lgd is a good short term solution for my current problem

If ur planning to run it long term, id go with LGD

if its 1-2 months id go with rad140 in a heartbeat

 

[medialcanthus]

also im lmtn with an eye area that dosent suit my face so i dont get any either way

financemax

 

[KeepCopingLads]

thin forearms

are a curse

this is quite literally the body part that everyone sees

 

[KeepCopingLads]

financemax

thats the goal now

 

[medialcanthus]

If ur planning to run it long term, id go with LGD

if its 1-2 months id go with rad140 in a heartbeat

i just wanna hit 64kg asap tbh my mom used to be a model and designer so i could be at an agency as soon as i hit goal weight

i thought debloating was going to be the hardest part of looksmaxing, turns out it was building mass effectively

 

[KeepCopingLads]

i just wanna hit 64kg asap

this nigga might be my twin or some shit
same

 

[medialcanthus]

this is quite literally the body part that everyone sees

yup especially the wrist part. its a lose lose when you wear sweaters or short sleeves. and when you wear sweaters that fit tight they make you look like a framelet