someone needs a brain that allows him to realize that fables written by barbaric men from the bronze age mean zilch
Earth is the only thing that is. Keep believing were a dot in the universe.
Even if I were to grant that the universe came about from an intelligent creator how would it follow by necessity that this creator is a god who sacrificed himself to himself to forgive himself of the mistakes he knew would happen? Lmao. Complexity isn't a hallmark of design either, but rather simplicity is.
Instead what you believe is some eternal disembodied being who came from just as much "nothing" as the universe you don't accept came from nothing, and poofed it into existence from sheer and literal magic. Fucking brilliant, this sure sounds more realistic and plausible than "coming from monkeys".Nothing will ever make me seriously believe we came from monkeys.
"Hey grandpa!"
Tfw you have no understanding of evolutionNothing will ever make me seriously believe we came from monkeys.
"Hey grandpa!"
God makes no mistake
Theory of evolution only "works" as long as you keep it on trail tracking it back but can't answer where the first amoeba came from.
...okay so technically not the modern monkey that is equally evolved in it's own way as the modern human is and both meet at this crossover monkey race hundreds of thousands of years ago. See you're selling but still not buying it.
But you have no god to speak of and make statements about his nature, you just have the mere idea of the most perfect possible being. You're really just that kid playing an imaginary shooting game and saying that no matter what I do you got me beaten because your character represents infinite power and has all the greatest weapons. Nothing but a game of words and characters representing certain ideas with nothing from external reality to demonstrate it.
So you are aware that this is at odds with the idea of ur retarded god and as a result need to resort to lunacy and denial of reality? Good
I'm just larping but lifeless planets don't disprove God at all
Theory of evolution was never put forth to explain the primordial cause of human existence and origins you braindead religious imbecile, it's simply an explanation to the biodiversity on earth. Lmao, you people are painfully dumb and ignorant, you are a bizarrely huge torrent of fallacies and down syndrome tier attempts at "gotcha".
Do not insult me. Keep it civil. I am neither dumb nor ignorant, I just don't see what you see.
How about you pick up a book to actually learn how this stuff works instead of going off of deliberate misrepresentations by christian apologists? Lmao
Bro you literally said nothing at all you have no point
I have read about evolution, just does not seem more likely than God creating it.
Again, how exactly does this put you an inch of a quarter closer to the god that cares about which gender I have sex with? I am conceding there is a higher power for the sake of argument, now show me how and why it follows that god is the abrahamic one which is the topic at hand. Will you drop this parroting of scripts and actually engage with what I'm arguing?
You have read it, but don't understand a scintilla of it, as your previous statements in this thread show. Now go back start all over again, so you can realize that 1- we didn't come from monkeys 2- evolution theory was never under any obligation to explain how we primarily came about 3-unprecedented and never observed concepts like magic is not more likely than what can be demonstrated, if you had the slightest bit of correct knowledge of the evolution theory and actually learned about all the evidence you would know that it is beyond impossible that it isn't true.
Do your own research bud
Then which scientific theory proves how we came to be?
What fucking research? Do I need to peruse through books and look in the most obscure and secretly hidden crannies of the planet earth to find out about a purported obvious and most objective truth of existence? Way to fucking dodge questions because you have jack shit to say and defend your case, as always. It is just as good of an argument to disprove him/it/her/them as any of the bald assertions and word games that you use to prove him/it/her/them.
There is nothing scientifically sound and empirically demonstrated that speaks to that, to a degree we can be 100% certain. However this doesn't prove any other allegations that haven't been demonstrated. Do you not understand that not having concrete answers doesn't lead us to the knowledge that a magical being did it? It is simple fucking logic.
Buddy its 2:28 am and i ain't got the energy to go back and forth about which religion is true
So you have no actual evidence and I have no actual evidence yet you claim to be smarter because you follow "simple fucking logic"?
Hes some 15 yo watching destiny thata his sources
Fucking destiny man, Jesus.
Pathetic and delusional. "It has crumbled my argument" lmao there is no group of people whose arguments in favor of their belief system I have an easier time dismantling, we can continue going at it for hours on end and I'll keep pointing out why your dishonest and pissweak attempts to "crumble my arguments" actually don't any water and showing you up for the intellectual embarrassment you are. Now go and run with your tail tucked between your legs and keep pretending that the chimerical tales you believe in so that you can get out of bed in the morning are true.
nah the universe is so big it was bound to happen , im a believer but that stuff doesnt prove it imo , ur not supposed to prove it either you need faith
Do you not understand that I'm not making any objective and truth claims in regards to a primary mover as it pertains to the whole picture of the universe and that pointing out the logical inconsistencies of a certain version that attempts to explain it doesn't put me under any obligation to come up with a version of my own? Do you really want to keep spouting retarded nonsense? I'll gladly keep showing that it's retarded nonsense.
argument from design is an intuitive argument for some kind of designer but that doesn't make that designer the christian god. and at the end of the day its just intuitive , its not falsifiable or testable so it will never leave the realm of pure speculation
Buddy you're the one who ran away when i presented the complexity argument
Literally here talking about non sense cause you know you can't disprove a higher intelligent power creating humans
Then make truth claims. 99% of science came because someone said it was the way it was then went out to prove it.
So 5 days building earth then 1 day for the stars cos yk…. They’re just dots in the sky
How exactly did I run from the "complexity argument" you colossal lunatic? Actually there is no disproving to be done when it comes to something that was never proven in the first place, I'm doing as much mental masturbartion and engaging in as much empty hypothesizing as you are. A god that doesn't want me to eat meat in a specific time of the year isn't the only thing that can play the role of the opposite of "luck" either, I have already conceded that we're a product of a higher power and you did nothing to show that higher power is the god I proposed to begin with. Why do you keep saying retarded and non sequitir shit and how do you have the nerve to accuse me of running away? Lmao.
I hate when theists bring up the false dichotomy
They are the most distasteful and easy to refute joke there is when it comes to any given discussion, I have so much fun toying around with these delusional lunatics. Lmao.
why do you concede there's a higher power? theres no reason to assume it. although the argument from design is probably the best argument for a higher power its still just untestable intuition. and intuition alone can't explain everything. quantum physics and relativity are definitely not intuitive but thats where the evidence points. logic is superior to intuition for truth seeking
