List of surgeries im getting, post urs too

it's impossible to be mental sane with a long midface, when you will be 20yo+ like me you will understand
i write in poor english because the only thing that matter is looks, and also this is what 95% of foids deserve:


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You haven't even tried things like facepulling or MSE to change your bone structure instead of just adding plastic to your already existing bone
 
they are 100% scam, trust me
even surgeons say that there is no surgery for midface lenght
(just think logically, it's impossible to change it)
 
they are 100% scam, trust me
even surgeons say that there is no surgery for midface lenght
Alot of surgeons disagree with you and there's literal studies and tons of anecdotes from people that did experience midface expansion like @varbrah. Why do you only think in midface length btw? Although there's probably something to help that a bit too like facepulling
 
Alot of surgeons disagree with you and there's literal studies and tons of anecdotes from people that did experience midface expansion like @varbrah. Why do you only think in midface length btw? Although there's probably something to help that a bit too like facepulling
Don’t waste your time he obviously can’t understand certain things
 
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lefort1 + bsso + genio
mse + msdo
mlf3
hgh (to gain 1 inch) + LL ( to gain 2-3 inches)
taban for eyes
 
It depends, I’m just paranoid. I don’t think surgeons do this often on people who have already had implants, fillers and canthoplexy lower eyelid retraction etc. so I just wanna talk about it first before id ever commit

But the blindness is still an issue and the swelling, so I’d still decide against regardless in all likelihood

Just curious, if you're not going to move the maxilla forward any, why not just get a wraparound jaw implant for the mandible? I didn't know there were any advantages to BSSO + chin wing over wraparound jaw implant if someone just wants to move only the lower jaw forward (but I'm admittedly still pretty ignorant when it comes to osteotomies)
 
forward grown mouth area = lower maxilla

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A very protruding mouth looks gay af imo.
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This looks better. Not too flat and not too protruding. He only needs more chin projection.
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All the examples you and key posted are prettboys. That's because it looks best on prettyboys, not masthetic Chads, and as everyone knows masthetic >>> prettyboy. That's why I think a very protruding mouth area is not ideal. Medium projection is ideal.

If it was that important, Peter Badenhop and Brad Pitt wouldn't be two of the best looking men of all time. Btw all your prettyboys you posted ITT get mogged into non-existence by these two Gigachads.

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your mouth area IMO should taut by your forward grown lower maxilla, thats why badenshop and pitt will age badly
 
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Well I’d be getting a genioplasty with it as well

But say someone is deceased for example

In one case you’re putting an implant that’s designed to add width and mass on a jaw and chin where the chin starts around the liaison due to non ideal forward growth - to an implant that adds mass to a chin that’s in front of the liaison and a jaw that’s more forward and upwardly rotated

I see a wraparound jawline as a means to augment and add width and thickness to a forward grown jaw that just genetically doesn’t pack that punch

Do you think it's a bad idea for me to go back to Dr. Y to have the rest of my wraparound implant placed? I kind of feel like the majority of my recession is limited to my maxilla, but I could be wrong. Was planning on going back in March when I'm done with school to get the rest of it put in but IDK if it will be a mistake or not
 
Yes go get it done

Still on the fence about revising the midface implants. Dr. Y would only charge $4.5k to do it but he and a few others have also said that the extra width and lower gonial angle height (I.e., stretching out the tissues in terms of both width & height) will make my current midface implants more noticeable so IDK
 
Stroma. And maybe rhino
 
Just get a bit more augmentation and add the other implants. Get as much as possible done s quick as possible and be done with it

What about the risks of extra scar tissue buildup (which could make it harder for him to get a good eye area surgery result) that Taban warned me about? That's my only hesitation with getting the midface implants revised (aside from the risk of developing a hematoma or something)
 
We both know that you’re going to do it so just do it. Get it revised, get the rest of the other implant in and then go to taban after. Then you’re all set

TBH I really don't know if I'll do the midface implant revision just yet. I really don't want to condemn myself to a lifetime of having this eye area. I might just get the rest of the jaw implant put in, wait until the swelling goes down, and then see how it affects my midface. I guess another option could be to let Dr. Y do the eye work (he suggested the same surgeries as Taban) but IDK if he can get as drastic of a result as Taban.
 
I’d say get it revised (which you will anyway, you’re saying IDK but you’ve been obsessively talking about it for months now, how you can’t accept not revising it)

So get it revised. Get the rest of the lower third implant on the same surgery. And if you’re unsure about Dr Y performing to the same capacity in respect to the eye area? That’s fine, because you just won’t go to him for those procedures

Go to taban after you’ve healed, then let him deal with your eye area, he’ll probably be annoyed but he’ll do his thing.

It's not so much that I'm worried about Taban being annoyed (for $20k that's the least of my concerns), it's primarily about whether or not the extra scar tissue will prevent him from being able to get a good result. Even Surgerymax over on Lookism said I should consider getting the eye work done by Dr. Y if I'm going to be revising the midface implants because of the scar tissue risks.

Ok, let me ask this -- regardless of the potential future threat to my eye area surgery results and pretending that my eye area was fine (instead of saying that I should get eye surgery over midface implant revision since my eye area is the more pressing issue), what's your personal opinion on revising the midface implants in terms of pure aesthetics? Objectively speaking do you think they're too small?
 
I think he did a great job with them. They look good. You have several other issues that need to be addressed. You asked for Henry Cavil tier cheekbones and he gave you exactly those. You don’t need two balls in your face sticking out, it’s not gonna suddenly make you a chad with your numerous other issues - especially in regard to eye area.

You really think my cheeks are Cavill-tier? I thought you (and others FWIW) agreed they were underdone, LOL
 
From what I remember I told you they were good 100x over

IDK, I guess this just is just starting to stress me out, especially since I'm starting to have to deal with a lot more IRL stress relating to career decisions and whether I want to do post-grad training now that I'm almost done with school. Why couldn't I have just been born with better genetics so that I wouldn't have to be in this position in the first place
 
they are 100% scam, trust me
even surgeons say that there is no surgery for midface lenght
(just think logically, it's impossible to change it)

Yes, it's not impossible to have a rhinoplasty shorten your nose slightly, and a lip lift + correct oral posture to lip seal.

This will overall bring your mouth + nose up a touch.

Also widening your jaw will make your skull look less long.

It's all these little things taken into account and executed correctly that will yield a noticeable difference in the end.
 
Genioplasty and jaw angle filler
 

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