Local Surgeon for 10k or save up for top surgeon? (DJS + genio)

[Zagoon]

Can either go with a local surgeon covered by insurance and pay around 10k out of pocket, or could spend years saving for someone like Dr. Raffaini for likely a better result. Im in university and work part time so not a lot of cash flow.

Here is the only result from the local surgeon i found, djs + genio as well, obv some of these are kinda frauded but still is an insane result imo:

 

[koops]

Ah yea this is the guy in Ottawa right? What's the surgeon's name again?

IMO there are good surgeons in Canada if you find them, take advantage of the massive fucking discount the healthcare system gives you rather than get charged for a slightly better result from one of the italians that ends up costing double or triple that

 

[Zagoon]

Ah yea this is the guy in Ottawa right? What's the surgeon's name again?

IMO there are good surgeons in Canada if you find them, take advantage of the massive fucking discount the healthcare system gives you rather than get charged for a slightly better result from one of the italians that ends up costing double or triple that

Taylor P. Mcguire, he's closely related to one of my friends as well so I could likely contact him outside of work beforehand. OHIP covers a fuckton of the surgery I just have to pay for any braces and scans/consultations out of pocket

How do you think I can go about getting the consultation for the surgery itself? I dont think i have any sleep apnea or airway problems (unless struggling to breathe through my nose counts), but then again neither did the guy from those images, he just asked for a jaw surgery consultation from his ortho.

 

[koops]

Taylor P. Mcguire, he's closely related to one of my friends as well so I could likely contact him outside of work beforehand. OHIP covers a fuckton of the surgery I just have to pay for any braces and scans/consultations out of pocket

How do you think I can go about getting the consultation for the surgery itself? I dont think i have any sleep apnea or airway problems (unless struggling to breathe through my nose counts), but then again neither did the guy from those images, he just asked for a jaw surgery consultation from his ortho.

Yea just do that. You could even just ask for a genio consult, that's what I did. Then when the actual surgeon sees you he will go over possible Jaw Surgery too

 

[Zagoon]

Yea just do that. You could even just ask for a genio consult, that's what I did. Then when the actual surgeon sees you he will go over possible Jaw Surgery too

Ty G, last thing. Any recs for other Canadian surgeons or just go with this guy cause hes local and can likely get a consultation through my ortho?

 

[koops]

Ty G, last thing. Any recs for other Canadian surgeons or just go with this guy cause hes local and can likely get a consultation through my ortho?

I don't know any eastern Canadian jaw surgeons other than this guy tbh, I only know the ones in BC which you couldn't go to anyways unfortunately. I say go with him, being able to go right back home asap after the surgery is an underrated advantage

Should go fine tho, good luck. Worst case scenario you can just go to a different guy

 

[zemult]

I've seen this dude's results and I'm only now realizing this dude's frontal results were frauded.

"Before" photo is dark lighting, "After" photo is better lighting with his head tilted more upwards to accentuate his lower third.

Brutal how much incels will misrepresent their results.

Be careful looking up to results like this, you will find yourself disappointed with your own results if you read too much into it. Esp w Bimax, unless you're a downgraft candidate or extremely recessed it will mostly only show in your side profile.

 

[Zagoon]

I've seen this dude's results and I'm only now realizing this dude's frontal results were frauded.

"Before" photo is dark lighting, "After" photo is better lighting with his head tilted more upwards to accentuate his lower third.

Brutal how much incels will misrepresent their results.

Be careful looking up to results like this, you will find yourself disappointed with your own results if you read too much into it.

yeah I'm aware but either way it looks better and for so cheap its gotta be worth it over saving 5+ years for someone like raffaini

 

[koops]

I've seen this dude's results and I'm only now realizing this dude's frontal results were frauded.

"Before" photo is dark lighting, "After" photo is better lighting with his head tilted more upwards to accentuate his lower third.

Brutal how much incels will misrepresent their results.

Be careful looking up to results like this, you will find yourself disappointed with your own results if you read too much into it.

I remember him posting himself on the jaw surgery Subreddit for like the sixth time and finally putting his head in a position somewhat resembling the Frankfort Plane and people were in the comments wondering if he relapsed

But the surgeon did a good job regardless, he still had an orthognathic profile after. But I agree people shouldn't expect anteface, most "antefaces" are just people with orthognathic profiles tilting their head up anyways

 

[zemult]

yeah I'm aware but either way it looks better and for so cheap its gotta be worth it over saving 5+ years for someone like raffaini

Depends if you know what you're doing or not. If you don't you'll end up like 90% of the not-so-aesthetic results on the jaw surgery reddit. Would be better off if you wage slaved for a known competent jaw surgeon at that point.

 

[Zagoon]

Depends if you know what you're doing or not. If you don't you'll end up like 90% of the not-so-aesthetic results on the jaw surgery reddit. Would be better off if you wage slaved for a known competent jaw surgeon at that point.

I'd like to think I know what I'm doing as I've been wanting this surgery for years but haven't really fully commited to taking action till now. Also I feel like the major flaw in the surgery isn't in the surgery itself but just the infraorbitals and upper maxxila regions still being recessed, and I think if I do end up getting a similar result I could simply get infra implants or fat grafting to help balance it out.

At the end of the day for so cheap I feel like even if I do go through with it and dont get great aesthetic results, it'll cost me only 10k out of the 60-80k ill need for a good surgeon and I could just get another surgery.

 

[zemult]

I'd like to think I know what I'm doing as I've been wanting this surgery for years but haven't really fully commited to taking action till now. Also I feel like the major flaw in the surgery isn't in the surgery itself but just the infraorbitals and upper maxxila regions still being recessed, and I think if I do end up getting a similar result I could simply get infra implants or fat grafting to help balance it out.

At the end of the day for so cheap I feel like even if I do go through with it and dont get great aesthetic results, it'll cost me only 10k out of the 60-80k ill need for a good surgeon and I could just get another surgery. View attachment 5225986

He was dogmaxxed as well but it's better than having a recessed side I suppose.

What does your side look like?

 

[Zagoon]

He was dogmaxxed as well but it's better than having a recessed side I suppose.

What does your side look like?

He was dogmaxxed as well but it's better than having a recessed side I suppose.

What does your side look like?

cooked, i tried not to fraud here

 

[Zagoon]

I remember him posting himself on the jaw surgery Subreddit for like the sixth time and finally putting his head in a position somewhat resembling the Frankfort Plane and people were in the comments wondering if he relapsed

But the surgeon did a good job regardless, he still had an orthognathic profile after. But I agree people shouldn't expect anteface, most "antefaces" are just people with orthognathic profiles tilting their head up anyways

I just found what you were talking about

Kinda crazy how bad he must've frauded so now idk, maybe it is worth to just save for Raffaini (first is pre-op, second is 1 year post)