lookism might be the best argument against an all loving god

[imontheloose]

It might be delusion, Im not saying that God is 100% real im just choosing to believe he is

You can believe as you wish, but faith in my opinion is an evil and terrible thing. Believing something without evidence is a horrible gateway to being able to do and believe just about anything

 

[william.]

Eve wouldve never ate that apple if it wasnt for satan, we wouldve been fine if it werent for him

so why did god create an angel he knew would fall

what a moron

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

I would if there was no law

and having a moral compass does not prove anything

No other creature has morals, and huh?? You would do what exactly if there was no law

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

so why did god create an angel he knew would fall

what a moron

He knew there was a chance, not a gurantee

 

[william.]

No other creature has morals, and huh?? You would do what exactly if there was no law

I would have done what i wanted.

yes other animals have so called morals

 

[william.]

He knew there was a chance, not a gurantee

then his not all-knowing or all powerful

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

You can believe as you wish, but faith in my opinion is an evil and terrible thing. Believing something without evidence is a horrible gateway to being able to do and believe just about anything

You wont always get evidence in this life, do you only go outside when you know for sure you wont get randomly attacked? Do you eat out knowing for sure you wont get food poisoning?

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

I would have done what i wanted

 

[imontheloose]

You wont always get evidence in this life, do you only go outside when you know for sure you wont get randomly attacked? Do you eat out knowing for sure you wont get food poisoning?

That’s evidence responsive, I of course cannot prove a plane won’t crash into me right now and seven silverbacks rape me but I’m quite certain that won’t happen to the point I can say “it won’t”. The difference is God has absolutely none, the same as the tooth fairy and Easter bunny. He does not respond to evidence

 

[william.]

You wont always get evidence in this life, do you only go outside when you know for sure you wont get randomly attacked? Do you eat out knowing for sure you wont get food poisoning?

this argument does not make sense at all

its does not debunk or prove anything other then: we dont know everything

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

not religious but yeah being truly blackpilled and religious is pretty impossible,

but tbh even tho he loves you that doesn't mean he needs to give eyrywone a good life, it's confusing why he creates so many "unfair" senarios but who am I to understand gods personnality.

humans will create caos because something happening is morally superior than being bored even if it's an "evil" act

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

That’s evidence responsive, I of course cannot prove a plane won’t crash into me right now and seven silverbacks rape me but I’m quite certain that won’t happen to the point I can say “it won’t”. The difference is God has absolutely none, the same as the tooth fairy and Easter bunny. He does not respond to evidence

So why do humans only have morals? Nothing else does? Is it because were just more intelligent? Made me cheese at the silverback part ngl

 

[william.]

So why do humans only have morals? Nothing else does? Is it because were just more intelligent? Made me cheese at the silverback part ngl

other animals have morals u retard

and what do you mean by "having morals"

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

this argument does not make sense at all

its does not debunk or prove anything other then: we dont know everything

Either he wants evidence of God (100% proof) or wants something that might hint there is a God (faith)

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

not religious but yeah being truly blackpilled and religious is pretty impossible,

but tbh even tho he loves you that doesn't mean he needs to give eyrywone a good life, it's confusing why he creates so many "unfair" senarios but who am I to understand gods personnality.

humans will create caos because something happening is morally superior than being bored even if it's an "evil" act

lonely men have sure as hell made this world more interesting

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

other animals have morals u retard

and what do you mean by "having morals"

WHat animals have morals?

 

[imontheloose]

So why do humans only have morals? Nothing else does? Is it because we’re just more intelligent? Made me cheese at the silverback part ngl

Humans are the most intelligent and sentient species. You can prove this by comparing any other ape’s accomplishments to their human cousins (us). The difference is astounding.

As animals, we were not meant to reason the complexities of the world and universe, it’s why we are the only species who commits suicide: we are too advanced for our own good

 

[ikramy]

there is tons of evil which is not chosen and lookism is by your belief only caused by god

natural evil is the cost of a coherent world.

 

[william.]

Either he wants evidence of God (100% proof) or wants something that might hint there is a God (faith)

faith is not a hint

WHat animals have morals?

dogs for example

natural evil is the cost of a coherent world.

which god the retard could have prevented and knew was gonna happen

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Humans are the most intelligent and sentient species. You can prove this by comparing any other ape’s accomplishments to their human cousins (us). The difference is astounding.

As animals, we were not meant to reason the complexities of the world and universe, it’s why we are the only species who commits suicide: we are too advanced for our own good

Animals cant commit suicide because they have no concept of death

 

[imontheloose]

Animals cant commit suicide because they have no concept of death

Because they’re less advanced

 

[ikramy]

There is no free will so there is no choice

Your genetics influence everything

if I slap you in the face and tell you oh mb I have no free will would that sound like a good enough reason to you ?

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

dogs for example

Youre confusing obedience and loyalty with morals

 

[imontheloose]

if I slap you in the face and tell you oh mb I have no free will would that sound like a good enough reason to you ?

Humans have will, it isn’t free however. You can’t freely do anything, you have mere will

 

[william.]

Youre confusing obedience and loyalty with morals

Evidence for animal morality:

• Empathy & Altruism: Rats help trapped companions; chimps share food; elephants rescue stuck young.
• Fairness: Monkeys protest unequal rewards, showing discontent with inequity.
• Cooperation: Pack animals like wolves and dolphins have complex strategies and social bonds.
• Compassion: Dogs show loyalty and protect their "pack," while cats may bring "gifts" of prey, suggesting nurturing behavior.

Key concepts:

• Moral Emotions: Animals display feelings like sympathy, kindness, and outrage.
• Moral Subjects vs. Agents: Animals can be considered moral subjects (capable of moral feelings/actions) without being full moral agents (responsible for complex moral reasoning) like humans.
• Evolutionary Roots: Morality likely evolved from these basic social instincts found across the animal kingdom, with humans developing more complex, flexible systems.

 

[ikramy]

which god the retard could have prevented and knew was gonna happen

you’re retarded or you can’t read, Natural evil isn’t a bug you can toggle off It’s literally the same mechanisms that make a physical world possible.

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

• Moral Subjects vs. Agents: Animals can be considered moral subjects (capable of moral feelings/actions) without being full moral agents (responsible for complex moral reasoning) like humans.

 

[william.]

you’re retarded or you can’t read, Natural evil isn’t a bug you can toggle off It’s literally the same mechanisms that make a physical world possible.

there was no need for a physical world, and it wasn't even what god wanted, but he made it happen anyways

 

[william.]

yes less complex than humans just like everything regarding intelligence

 

[wewuzaryans134]

perfect god and perfect world

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

I think the idea of god’s love is applied to the masses, as a spiritual need, as the average man is unable to navigate life without some kind of religious cope. Without it the horrible ennui and dull, hopeless, and boring feeling would set in.
For the christians salvation is beyond the physical world so the pain here on earth doesn't mean that god is not loving, it means instead that it is a temporary pain.

 

[ikramy]

there was no need for a physical world, and it wasn't even what god wanted, but he made it happen anyways

you’re just talking straight out of your ass here tbh so I won’t interact in this argument any longer

 

[ikramy]

Humans have will, it isn’t free however. You can’t freely do anything, you have mere will

Everything is taken into accountability when judged by god according to your special case

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

I think the idea of god’s love is applied to the masses, as a spiritual need, as the average man is unable to navigate life without some kind of religious cope. Without it the horrible ennui and dull, hopeless, and boring feeling would set in.
For the christians salvation is beyond the physical world so the pain here on earth doesn't mean that god is not loving, it means instead that it is a temporary pain.

It would be a good cope but most christians are going to hell

 

[John-Erik-Hexagon]

s tier argument

Nice profile picture

 

[imontheloose]

Everything is taken into accountability when judged by god according to your special case

Including the fact he demanded I worship him with no evidence; his only argument being “trust me I made the world out of boredom”?

 

[reemzy]

s tier argument

truth is he has favorites

 

[william.]

you’re just talking straight out of your ass here tbh so I won’t interact in this argument any longer

is not true tho

 

[william.]

That's like me saying "math is disproven due to it not being practical outside of school for most people"

its criticizes christianity internal logic

"god being fair and all-loving"

 

[CD34]

Chad is more prone to sin than the average normie, he’s disadvantaged

s tier argument

 

[william.]

Chad is more prone to sin than the average normie, he’s disadvantaged

are u a christtard?

 

[SkiSquadJPG]

its not his fault you ate goyslop as a kid

 

[william.]

its not his fault you ate goyslop as a kid

genetics mog habits, and yes it kinda is his fault

 

[SkiSquadJPG]

genetics mog habits, and yes it kinda is his fault

habits mog, its your parents fault so youre basically repeating the same "unfair life" argument as everyone else

 

[CD34]

are u a christtard?

A Chad, even if he’s “advantaged,” is often more exposed: constant attention, DMs, invites, and sexual opportunities. That kind of access can burn out your sensitivity—what used to feel special becomes routine, and routine can turn into emptiness. The average normie, instead, ends up living a more “monastic” life by default: fewer temptations, fewer chances to fall, almost forced into abstaining. So the paradox is that the normie can be unintentionally protected, while the Chad needs much stronger discipline to stay clean and centered.

 

[topology]

its criticizes christianity internal logic

"god being fair and all-loving"

No, the entire argument is philosophical and has no basis on logic. If you think it does, you have no place to even be giving your input.

 

[william.]

habits mog, its your parents fault so youre basically repeating the same "unfair life" argument as everyone else

how can u make such claims when literally no scientist expect the con artist mike mew supports u

and why do tribes with good diet have such variety in looks

why do nearly all families look alike

 

[william.]

No, the entire argument is philosophical and has no basis on logic.

how does it not have basis in logic? the argument displays the unfairness of til all-loving god

If you think it does, you have no place to even be giving your input.

ad hominem fallacy

 

[SkiSquadJPG]

how can u make such claims when literally no scientist expect the con artist mike mew supports u

you are an nt larper who doesnt belong here if the only "scientist" you know is mike

and why do tribes with good diet have such variety in looks

genetical, notice how they all mog tho

why do nearly all families look alike

because they are raised in same household -> they have same habits fucking retard

 

[william.]

A Chad, even if he’s “advantaged,” is often more exposed: constant attention, DMs, invites, and sexual opportunities. That kind of access can burn out your sensitivity—what used to feel special becomes routine, and routine can turn into emptiness. The average normie, instead, ends up living a more “monastic” life by default: fewer temptations, fewer chances to fall, almost forced into abstaining. So the paradox is that the normie can be unintentionally protected, while the Chad needs much stronger discipline to stay clean and centered.

this proves my argument even more