Losing faith in blackpill

[Copeful]

I have never seen a 5.5+ PSL in my life IRL. The biggest slayer and best looking guy I knew was 5 PSL max. If these people are so statistically rare, how is it that hypergamy can be as widespread as blackpill makes it out to be? Is one chad fucking 100 girls a day nonstop? The numbers just don't add up.

And it's not just hypergamy that seems illogical to me. PSL/looks theory is also becoming more and more irrelevant. PSL gods like Barret and Depoot were considered by many of us to be the epitome of male beauty - MEANING that 100% of women would find them attractive. But of course as we've seen, these guys (who we once thought had the ideal facial structure for attracting women) have next to no appeal.

Then you have "juggernaut law", which theorizes that even extremely unattractive women receive substantial attention from men. This literally makes 0 sense to me. You don't see this kind of simping for ugly chicks in your day to day activities though, do you? Does everybody at work get hard for the obese, acne-ridden black chick at work, or the hot blonde? Sure, they can hop on some app and be overwhelmed with matches, but reminder that this is because of the extremely skewed gender ratios on apps, which inherently artificially boosts the value of all foids.

TL;DR - Day by day the blackpill is becoming more a meme for me than anything else. It just doesn't make sense. Post vantablackpill material ASAP (No "studies" or OLD "experiments" btw, they don't faze me. They are incredibly dubious and not valid, as they produce conflicting results).

I am not saying looks don't matter you faggots. Ofc looks are extremely important, that's why I'm here trying to looksmax. I'm just losing faith in the more autistic/extreme aspects of blackpill theory, like sub8 law, hypergamy, juggernaut law, etc.

Inb4 cope/username checks out.

 

[Deleted member 6997]

 

[Deleted member 6488]

 

[recessed]

I have never seen a 5.5+ PSL in my life IRL. The biggest slayer and best looking guy I knew was 5 PSL max. If these people are so statistically rare, how is it that hypergamy can be as widespread as blackpill makes it out to be? Is one chad fucking 100 girls a day nonstop? The numbers just don't add up.

And it's not just hypergamy that seems illogical to me. PSL/looks theory is also becoming more and more irrelevant. PSL gods like Barret and Depoot were considered by many of us to be the epitome of male beauty - MEANING that 100% of women would find them attractive. But of course as we've seen, these guys (who we once thought had the ideal facial structure for attracting women) have next to no appeal.

Then you have "juggernaut law", which theorizes that even extremely unattractive women receive substantial attention from men. This literally makes 0 sense to me. You don't see this kind of simping for ugly chicks in your day to day activities though, do you? Does everybody at work get hard for the obese, acne-ridden black chick at work, or the hot blonde? Sure, they can hop on some app and be overwhelmed with matches, but reminder that this is because of the extremely skewed gender ratios on apps, which inherently artificially boosts the value of all foids.

TL;DR - Day by day the blackpill is becoming more a meme for me than anything else. It just doesn't make sense. Post vantablackpill material ASAP (No "studies" or OLD "experiments" btw, they don't faze me. They are incredibly dubious and not valid, as they produce conflicting results).

I am not saying looks don't matter you faggots. Ofc looks are extremely important, that's why I'm here trying to looksmax. I'm just losing faith in the more autistic/extreme aspects of blackpill theory, like sub8 law, hypergamy, juggernaut law, etc.

Inb4 cope/username checks out.

brah

 

[recessed]

I have never seen a 5.5+ PSL in my life IRL. The biggest slayer and best looking guy I knew was 5 PSL max. If these people are so statistically rare, how is it that hypergamy can be as widespread as blackpill makes it out to be? Is one chad fucking 100 girls a day nonstop? The numbers just don't add up.

And it's not just hypergamy that seems illogical to me. PSL/looks theory is also becoming more and more irrelevant. PSL gods like Barret and Depoot were considered by many of us to be the epitome of male beauty - MEANING that 100% of women would find them attractive. But of course as we've seen, these guys (who we once thought had the ideal facial structure for attracting women) have next to no appeal.

Then you have "juggernaut law", which theorizes that even extremely unattractive women receive substantial attention from men. This literally makes 0 sense to me. You don't see this kind of simping for ugly chicks in your day to day activities though, do you? Does everybody at work get hard for the obese, acne-ridden black chick at work, or the hot blonde? Sure, they can hop on some app and be overwhelmed with matches, but reminder that this is because of the extremely skewed gender ratios on apps, which inherently artificially boosts the value of all foids.

TL;DR - Day by day the blackpill is becoming more a meme for me than anything else. It just doesn't make sense. Post vantablackpill material ASAP (No "studies" or OLD "experiments" btw, they don't faze me. They are incredibly dubious and not valid, as they produce conflicting results).

I am not saying looks don't matter you faggots. Ofc looks are extremely important, that's why I'm here trying to looksmax. I'm just losing faith in the more autistic/extreme aspects of blackpill theory, like sub8 law, hypergamy, juggernaut law, etc.

Inb4 cope/username checks out.

i thoguth we;re all just shitposting here i cant believe somebody actually thought that looks matter more than personality lamo

 

[Deleted member 5522]

There is no such thing as truth in this world but what we make of it

 

[Deleted member 7125]

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Thanks bro really
helping me

 

[recessed]

There is no such thing as truth in this world but what we make of it

deep

 

[Copeful]

i thoguth we;re all just shitposting here i cant believe somebody actually thought that looks matter more than personality lamo

Damn bro you got the whole squad laughing.

I said looks are extremely important in the OP you idiot, read the post

 

[Deleted member 8941]

PSL/looks theory is also becoming more and more irrelevant. PSL gods like Barret and Depoot were considered by many of us to be the epitome of male beauty - MEANING that 100% of women would find them attractive. But of course as we've seen, these guys (who we once thought had the ideal facial structure for attracting women) have next to no appeal.

Because they are not even ideal according to PSL standards.

 

[BonesAndHarmony]

https://looksmax.org/threads/some-quick-conclusions.145105/

 

[Deleted member 6488]

Damn bro you got the whole squad laughing.

I said looks are extremely important in the OP you idiot, read the post

repost this in the looksmax section

it's actually a quality post

 

[NormieWithBigPP]

" I am not saying looks don't matter you faggots. Ofc looks are extremely important, that's why I'm here trying to looksmax. I'm just losing faith in the more autistic/extreme aspects of blackpill theory, like sub8 law, hypergamy, juggernaut law, etc. "

then you haven't really lost faith in blackpill at its core - the facts about how looks and overall attraction affect your life are still true and are the basis of blackpill. it's just that PSL and tinder experiments are mostly meaningless IRL.

 

[Hades]

they don't faze me

 

[Copeful]

Because they are not even ideal according to PSL standards.

Not anymore. They used to be, you haven't been here long enough. People have gone back on their words, and unironcally beleived barret/depoot to be the only 7.5+ PSL's

 

[Deleted member 4464]

just because you are surrounded with subhumans it doesnt disprove the blackpill

 

[Hozay]

i agree tbh just here for the laughs at this point

 

[MentalistKebab]

I have never seen a 5.5+ PSL in my life IRL. The biggest slayer and best looking guy I knew was 5 PSL max. If these people are so statistically rare, how is it that hypergamy can be as widespread as blackpill makes it out to be? Is one chad fucking 100 girls a day nonstop? The numbers just don't add up.

And it's not just hypergamy that seems illogical to me. PSL/looks theory is also becoming more and more irrelevant. PSL gods like Barret and Depoot were considered by many of us to be the epitome of male beauty - MEANING that 100% of women would find them attractive. But of course as we've seen, these guys (who we once thought had the ideal facial structure for attracting women) have next to no appeal.

Then you have "juggernaut law", which theorizes that even extremely unattractive women receive substantial attention from men. This literally makes 0 sense to me. You don't see this kind of simping for ugly chicks in your day to day activities though, do you? Does everybody at work get hard for the obese, acne-ridden black chick at work, or the hot blonde? Sure, they can hop on some app and be overwhelmed with matches, but reminder that this is because of the extremely skewed gender ratios on apps, which inherently artificially boosts the value of all foids.

TL;DR - Day by day the blackpill is becoming more a meme for me than anything else. It just doesn't make sense. Post vantablackpill material ASAP (No "studies" or OLD "experiments" btw, they don't faze me. They are incredibly dubious and not valid, as they produce conflicting results).

I am not saying looks don't matter you faggots. Ofc looks are extremely important, that's why I'm here trying to looksmax. I'm just losing faith in the more autistic/extreme aspects of blackpill theory, like sub8 law, hypergamy, juggernaut law, etc.

Inb4 cope/username checks out.

Nigga how tf you dont see any 6PSL ? It literally equals to 7.5/10 in normal rating.

Just because some morons here calls Tinder slayers "muh high tier normie 5PSL" it doesnt make them like that.

 

[Copeful]

repost this in the looksmax section

it's actually a quality post

Sure thing bro, because I totally give looksmaxxing advice in this post.

 

[Hozay]

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that man has made more money than everyone on this forum combined jfl

 

[Deleted member 8941]

Not anymore. They used to be, you haven't been here long enough. People have gone back on their words, and unironcally beleived barret/depoot to be the only 7.5+ PSL's

What I mean is that they never were ideal and that there are tons of guys with better features and ratios than them.

 

[Deleted member 6488]

Sure thing bro, because I totally give looksmaxxing advice in this post.

that's not my point

post it in the looksmax section, it will get a lot of attention since it's on people's main page

and then mods will move it back here (and you will receive no warning) but by that time, your post would probably have gained popularity

 

[Copeful]

Nigga how tf you dont see any 6PSL ? It literally equals to 7.5/10 in normal rating.

Just because some morons here calls Tinder slayers "muh high tier normie 5PSL" it doesnt make them like that.

The best looking person in my HS of 3000+ was 5 PSL, MAYBE 5.5. I live in a decently rich area, not some fucking subhuman shithole. It is what it is, most ppl are sub4 PSL by this forums standards

 

[CommanderCope]

You're probably rating way too harshly. Women in general have it easier than men.

 

[Blackout.xl]

I have never seen a 5.5+ PSL in my life IRL. The biggest slayer and best looking guy I knew was 5 PSL max. If these people are so statistically rare, how is it that hypergamy can be as widespread as blackpill makes it out to be? Is one chad fucking 100 girls a day nonstop? The numbers just don't add up.

And it's not just hypergamy that seems illogical to me. PSL/looks theory is also becoming more and more irrelevant. PSL gods like Barret and Depoot were considered by many of us to be the epitome of male beauty - MEANING that 100% of women would find them attractive. But of course as we've seen, these guys (who we once thought had the ideal facial structure for attracting women) have next to no appeal.

Then you have "juggernaut law", which theorizes that even extremely unattractive women receive substantial attention from men. This literally makes 0 sense to me. You don't see this kind of simping for ugly chicks in your day to day activities though, do you? Does everybody at work get hard for the obese, acne-ridden black chick at work, or the hot blonde? Sure, they can hop on some app and be overwhelmed with matches, but reminder that this is because of the extremely skewed gender ratios on apps, which inherently artificially boosts the value of all foids.

TL;DR - Day by day the blackpill is becoming more a meme for me than anything else. It just doesn't make sense. Post vantablackpill material ASAP (No "studies" or OLD "experiments" btw, they don't faze me. They are incredibly dubious and not valid, as they produce conflicting results).

I am not saying looks don't matter you faggots. Ofc looks are extremely important, that's why I'm here trying to looksmax. I'm just losing faith in the more autistic/extreme aspects of blackpill theory, like sub8 law, hypergamy, juggernaut law, etc.

Inb4 cope/username checks out.

I agree with most of this apart from juggernaut law.

People will get hard over the hot blond instead of the obese black girl, of course.

But the hot blond will go for her looksmatch, chadlite minimum. Everyone else will fight for scraps. Which increases the value of the fat foid because she’s seen as obtainable while the hot blonde is not.

It’s not as extreme as people make it out to be here. But juggernaut law is a guaranteed outcome of men having higher sex drives. This is why no females are incel if they actually want to have sex.

 

[lifestyle21873]

I agree.

Never seen above 6 psl guy IRL

And the 6 PSL are so rare you wont even ser them

Go out and look how many subhuman with hot girls and no its not ”betabuxx, cuck” etc

Blackpill is a meme

 

[MentalistKebab]

The best looking person in my HS of 3000+ was 5 PSL, MAYBE 5.5. I live in a decently rich area, not some fucking subhuman shithole. It is what it is, most ppl are sub4 PSL by this forums standards

Some guys in this forum calls people who can get sex in Tinder from face alone 5PSL for some reason.

 

[stuckneworleans]

There is no such thing as truth in this world but what we make of it

Objective ultimate truths exist

 

[lifestyle21873]

Good thread tbh. Just statistically with the rarity of chads it doesn’t make sense that they’d be the only one getting girls. Only thing I will say is being better looking is literally always better. Surgery and Looksmaxxing is still worth it just because there still are additional benefits from looking better

Dont forget most ppl here are extremely delusional and think you have to be 7 psl to get girls

 

[Deleted member 5522]

Objective ultimate truths exist

Truth is only an opinion

heck even this comment is an opinion

 

[Blackout.xl]

Truth is only an opinion

heck even this comment is an opinion

Is 2+2=4 an opinion?

 

[GigaMogger]

Then you have "juggernaut law", which theorizes that even extremely unattractive women receive substantial attention from men. This literally makes 0 sense to me. You don't see this kind of simping for ugly chicks in your day to day activities though, do you? Does everybody at work get hard for the obese, acne-ridden black chick at work, or the hot blonde? Sure, they can hop on some app and be overwhelmed with matches, but reminder that this is because of the extremely skewed gender ratios on apps, which inherently artificially boosts the value of all foids.

Juggernaut law is BS, most guys swipe right on every bitch on dating apps, including the pig faced uggos

If juggernaut law was true most incels would be getting laid with 0 SMV bitches

 

[Deleted member 5522]

Is 2+2=4 an opinion?

Yes numbers are man made concepts

2+2 could equal 100034634634

its all opinion based

You need to be taught a man made system just to get into maths

 

[Copeful]

that's not my point

post it in the looksmax section, it will get a lot of attention since it's on people's main page

and then mods will move it back here (and you will receive no warning) but by that time, your post would probably have gained popularity

Is there any way to move it, or do I have to just copy and repaste it?

 

[Blackout.xl]

Yes numbers are man made concepts

2+2 could equal 100034634634

its all opinion based

You need to be taught a man made system just to get into maths

Numbers are man made concepts meant to describe processes in reality.

it’s logically impossible for 2+2 to result in anything more or less than 4. The calculation that’s made is what the calculation is. This is why everyone can agree that 1+1 equals 2 while for things like ideas, people don’t agree and there’s room for subjectivity.

 

[Deleted member 5522]

Numbers are man made concepts meant to describe processes in reality.

it’s logically impossible for 2+2 to result in anything more or less than 4. The calculation that’s made is what the calculation is. This is why everyone can agree that 1+1 equals 2 while for things like ideas, people don’t agree and there’s room for subjectivity.

Our interpretation of reality is an opinion

On what basis does "1" exist, what is "1" is merely an opinion. Logic is just used to be consistent compared with our perceived reality.

 

[KrissKross]

I can’t find it right now, but there’s a study that shows how 2/3 or something like that of millennial men are getting pretty much no sex. For all intents and purposes they are incels.

Blackpill can’t be refuted after seeing that.

 

[Copeful]

" I am not saying looks don't matter you faggots. Ofc looks are extremely important, that's why I'm here trying to looksmax. I'm just losing faith in the more autistic/extreme aspects of blackpill theory, like sub8 law, hypergamy, juggernaut law, etc. "

then you haven't really lost faith in blackpill at its core - the facts about how looks and overall attraction affect your life are still true and are the basis of blackpill. it's just that PSL and tinder experiments are mostly meaningless IRL.

Then by this logic I was always blackpilled. I never believed that looks didn't matter, rather that they were extremely important.

Blackpill encompasses all of these theories (sub8, hypergamy, juggernaut law) and many people on this forum unironically subscribe to them.

 

[Deleted member 616]

I have never seen a 5.5+ PSL in my life IRL. The biggest slayer and best looking guy I knew was 5 PSL max. If these people are so statistically rare, how is it that hypergamy can be as widespread as blackpill makes it out to be? Is one chad fucking 100 girls a day nonstop? The numbers just don't add up.

That's why most young foids especially the decent looking ones would rather stay single nowadays, at least in my area it's rare to see young couples. Attractive prime girls only hang out with their female friends most of the time. Also one best looking guy in your area is enough to get the attention of 80% of women in the 80km radius. Even such a guy would pale in comparison if women discover a bigger fish on social media.

The blackpill in the widest sense just means that looks matter a lot in life, especially in attracting women. To what extent it matters aka the blackpill in its narrower sense varies from you own interpretation.

My own interpretation is that the better looking you are the more likely you are to get the girl you really WANT. Also the looksmatch pill is very true where I live. It's basically like a market. The more money (attractiveness) a guy has is the better good (partner) he can afford. My own dating experience can also attest to that.

The blackpill you're describing in OP is more like the sub8 rule. That's a very radical interpretation that not many users are subscribed to.

TLDR:
The general blackpill : looks matter, it determines the quality of your dating life / the quantity of your dating options - undeniably true.

The specific blackpill : how much psl is enough to slay, at what point someone becomes incel etc, - debatable.

 

[lifestyle21873]

That's why most young foids especially the decent looking ones would rather stay single nowadays, at least in my area it's rare to see young couples. Attractive prime girls only hang out with their female friends most of the time. Also one best looking guy in your area is enough to get the attention of 80% of women in the 80km radius. Even such a guy would pale in comparison if women discover a bigger fish on social media.

The blackpill in the widest sense just means that looks matter a lot in life, especially in attracting women. To what extent it matters aka the blackpill in its narrower sense varies from you own interpretation.

My own interpretation is that the better looking you are the more likely you are to get the girl you really WANT. Also the looksmatch pill is very true where I live. It's basically like a market. The more money (attractiveness) a guy has is the better good (partner) he can afford. My own dating experience can also attest to that.

The blackpill you're describing in OP is more like the sub8 rule. That's a very radical interpretation that not many users are subscribed to.

TLDR:
The general blackpill : looks matter, it determines the quality of your dating life / the quantity of your dating options - undeniably true.

The specific blackpill : how much psl is enough to slay, at what point someone becomes incel etc, - debatable.

No one has ever said looks DONT matter but to the extent this forum is talking about is comical

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Nigga how tf you dont see any 6PSL ? It literally equals to 7.5/10 in normal rating.

Just because some morons here calls Tinder slayers "muh high tier normie 5PSL" it doesnt make them like that.

6 PSL is actually 8/10 on the normie scale.

Normie rating - 2 = PSL score

 

[Deleted member 6488]

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jfl how did i get more reacts than you

 

[Kingkellz]

PSL gods like Barret and Depoot were considered by many of us to be the epitome of male beauty - MEANING that 100% of women would find them attractive.

"Many of us" aka retards who don't know shit about what a women finds sexually attractive.

Anyone who does a little bit of reading/research and doesn't rot in their basement all day already knew that Barrett and depoot were unappealing to most women and extremely appealing to homosexual aspie teenagers on PSL forums.

 

[MentalistKebab]

6 PSL is actually 8/10 on the normie scale.

Normie rating - 2 = PSL score

Wtf ? I thought it was its/8 compared to normie rating /10.
Are u saying 4PSL is not 5/10 ?

 

[Copeful]

That's why most young foids especially the decent looking ones would rather stay single nowadays, at least in my area it's rare to see young couples. Attractive prime girls only hang out with their female friends most of the time. Also one best looking guy in your area is enough to get the attention of 80% of women in the 80km radius. Even such a guy would pale in comparison if women discover a bigger fish on social media.

See, this doesn't make sense to me. How is it physically possible for this guy to fuck 80% of the women in his area? Unless he can be in multiple places at once, it's literally not possible. Which is why you see women fucking guys below their looksmatch often, gl guys are so statistically rare.

 

[Deleted member 616]

No one has ever said looks DONT matter but to the extent this forum is talking about is comical

I think most users are just envious of what psl 7-8 can get - undeniably they are like living gods. But it's also consensus that you can live a decent dating life with psl 5.5-6.

You can also get sex with psl 4-5 but probably not the ones you really want.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Wtf ? I thought it was its/8 compared to normie rating /10.
Are u saying 4PSL is not 5/10 ?

correct.

women see Chadlites (7/10) as average.

Decile

The decile scale is a 1 to 10 scale widely used to rank attractiveness. Such scales have been used for at least a century and calling someone a "nine" or "ten" is...

incels.wiki

Another scale is the PSL rating scale which goes from 1-8. To find out your position on the PSL scale, deduct 2 points from the rating you recieved on the much more common decile scale. The idea behind it is that a man's position on the PSL scale directly correlates with how women perceive him. In the statistics released by the dating site OkCupid, men received much more harsh ratings (81% percent of them being rated as below average looking) by women than vice versa. Thus a male 7 will not actually be considered on par with female 7 in terms of their SMV, but will instead be perceived as a 5. Observable reality shows that it is increasingly uncommon for women to date their looks match or to be the more attractive one in the couple.

subtract 2 from your score to get your PSL score

 

[lifestyle21873]

I think most users are just envious of what psl 7-8 can get - undeniably they are like living gods. But it's also consensus that you can live a decent dating life with psl 5.5-6.

You can also get sex with psl 4-5 but probably not the ones you really want.

Psl 7-8 is 0,0001% of the population

Ive never in my life seen someone at that looks level

 

[Deleted member 4310]

Even if the blackpill isn't true in dating looks still influence your life and career to a very large degree, that is actually scientifically proven.

 

[NarcyChadlite]

I have never seen a 5.5+ PSL in my life IRL. The biggest slayer and best looking guy I knew was 5 PSL max. If these people are so statistically rare, how is it that hypergamy can be as widespread as blackpill makes it out to be? Is one chad fucking 100 girls a day nonstop? The numbers just don't add up.

And it's not just hypergamy that seems illogical to me. PSL/looks theory is also becoming more and more irrelevant. PSL gods like Barret and Depoot were considered by many of us to be the epitome of male beauty - MEANING that 100% of women would find them attractive. But of course as we've seen, these guys (who we once thought had the ideal facial structure for attracting women) have next to no appeal.

Then you have "juggernaut law", which theorizes that even extremely unattractive women receive substantial attention from men. This literally makes 0 sense to me. You don't see this kind of simping for ugly chicks in your day to day activities though, do you? Does everybody at work get hard for the obese, acne-ridden black chick at work, or the hot blonde? Sure, they can hop on some app and be overwhelmed with matches, but reminder that this is because of the extremely skewed gender ratios on apps, which inherently artificially boosts the value of all foids.

TL;DR - Day by day the blackpill is becoming more a meme for me than anything else. It just doesn't make sense. Post vantablackpill material ASAP (No "studies" or OLD "experiments" btw, they don't faze me. They are incredibly dubious and not valid, as they produce conflicting results).

I am not saying looks don't matter you faggots. Ofc looks are extremely important, that's why I'm here trying to looksmax. I'm just losing faith in the more autistic/extreme aspects of blackpill theory, like sub8 law, hypergamy, juggernaut law, etc.

Inb4 cope/username checks out.

Jfl if you took that shit 100% seriously to begin with..