MoggerGaston
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Few weeks ago I went on a holiday to Berlin with my last 2 friends. Knew them since my childhood.
First friend I lost:
At some point the discussion was about women, dating, society. We all know from eachother that we do poorly with women and were not the best looking guys. (although they obviously dont like talking about this fact)
Anyways I made a statement about how I dislike how society makes it seem like female lives are harder than men's, especially considering how easy it is for women to date and the advantages they can get with that. How society treats young women much better than young men, etc.
1 of them disagreed with me completely, referring to 2 female friends he has that cry a lot and both visit psychologists. Telling me that I am wrong and it's clear that women have it much harder than men.
Note: I know both of these female friends, not as closely as he does, but I've had several conversations with them. Been to parties with them, was in the same student club as one of them, etc.
These female friends of his are not 'femcels' that would struggle in any way:
1 is a stacylite. Has dated the jock of the biggest fraternity of my city, then dumped him to date another jock. I was part of that fraternity, was weird seeing a 6'4 chadlite get dumped and cry ngl. I think it ruined his reputation at that fraternity forever, he quit the next year. Anyways typical privileged stacylite life, she's from a rich family too.
and 1 is a make-up maxxed HTB. Has slept around with rich older men in big cities around the world since she was 18yo. At a drinking game she confessed to me she cheated on 2 of her past boyfriends. She's generally known as a girl that hoes around. She's on dating apps a lot although she doesn't meet many guys from there, she will screenshot pathetic messages/dickpics that she gets and show them to us when were chilling, drunk and bored. for entertainment.
Fun fact: I've talked to this girl about skincare routines in the past and she told me I am the only guy she knows that's on retin lol.
Anyways both of them are way out of our leagues and none of us could ever date them, maybe the HTB at some point but unlikely.
These 2 women are the typical 'privileged young women', but both of them visit therapists.
You can probably guess already where this conversation went.
I told my friend that he shouldn't take their struggles as serious, because they are women and they will visit therapists for the smallest of issues. Unlike guys, guys like us, that wouldn't do such a thing.
My friend got mad at me for talking shit about his female friends, told me they cry all the time and they have it much harder than men. That life is stacked against women and there's far more pressure on women than men. That his female friends are dealing with pressure to settle-down in a relationship already at 26yo, while we as guys don't have any of that. That they are discriminated against professionally for being women and they tell him this. That feminism hasn't gone far enough yet and we need 'positive discrimination' against men, put women in power, to counter the sexism that women face. Etc this kinda stuff.
During this the other friend was mostly silent and didn't participate much in the conversation. Anyways I ended the conversation here because things were getting heated. The vibe/mood was kinda ruined for the rest of the day for all of us. Untill we talked it through shortly while we were on XTC at a rave, apologized for misunderstandings, etc. Things were good after that, but I definitely feel a barrier between us, a rift since then.
He started a conversation about women/feminism again the next day with the other friend. I said: yeah I am not joining this convo, cya guys later.
We haven't talked much anymore since Berlin.
I am not good friends with him anymore tbh. It's over.
Anyways my other friend, the one that was also in Berlin. He was sorta mediating between us back then, didn't really take a stance. Still talk to him regularly.
We had a few hours of conversation yesterday, because of a girl (typical). He has been in the friendzone of this hot JB for years now while she was in a relationship. Their relationship broke off, he waited to make a move till she was going to be over her ex. Turns out she didn't need any time to get over him and started hoeing around immediately. Telling my friendzoned friend about the guys she's fucking. He got pissed and made a move, got rejected and their friendship ended too.
He was asking me about advice on what to do, how to get over her, if he did anything wrong, etc.
I was caging inside since it's just so typical female behavior, but I didn't say anything, didn't judge the girl he is/was in love with.
I found myself giving bluepilled advice to him, unlike the typical red/blackpills I spill out to him. I am just not interested in confrontation for telling people the truth anymore? Probably cuz of the confrontation in Berlin.
Woke up today thinking about this shit during my morning coffee and decided to write this essay.
I am questioning whether my relationship with this guy is anything more than superficial at this point, if I can't be myself and have to censor my real thoughts with you. At that point you're just another schmuck to me with no other value than what you bring to the table in terms of social status/experiences/jokes/knowledge, etc.
At that point I have to play a role, an act, around you just like I have to around my colleagues, girls I am dating, strangers, etc.
I think I lost my last friend. They're both just acquintainces now.
First friend I lost:
At some point the discussion was about women, dating, society. We all know from eachother that we do poorly with women and were not the best looking guys. (although they obviously dont like talking about this fact)
Anyways I made a statement about how I dislike how society makes it seem like female lives are harder than men's, especially considering how easy it is for women to date and the advantages they can get with that. How society treats young women much better than young men, etc.
1 of them disagreed with me completely, referring to 2 female friends he has that cry a lot and both visit psychologists. Telling me that I am wrong and it's clear that women have it much harder than men.
Note: I know both of these female friends, not as closely as he does, but I've had several conversations with them. Been to parties with them, was in the same student club as one of them, etc.
These female friends of his are not 'femcels' that would struggle in any way:
1 is a stacylite. Has dated the jock of the biggest fraternity of my city, then dumped him to date another jock. I was part of that fraternity, was weird seeing a 6'4 chadlite get dumped and cry ngl. I think it ruined his reputation at that fraternity forever, he quit the next year. Anyways typical privileged stacylite life, she's from a rich family too.
and 1 is a make-up maxxed HTB. Has slept around with rich older men in big cities around the world since she was 18yo. At a drinking game she confessed to me she cheated on 2 of her past boyfriends. She's generally known as a girl that hoes around. She's on dating apps a lot although she doesn't meet many guys from there, she will screenshot pathetic messages/dickpics that she gets and show them to us when were chilling, drunk and bored. for entertainment.
Fun fact: I've talked to this girl about skincare routines in the past and she told me I am the only guy she knows that's on retin lol.
Anyways both of them are way out of our leagues and none of us could ever date them, maybe the HTB at some point but unlikely.
These 2 women are the typical 'privileged young women', but both of them visit therapists.
You can probably guess already where this conversation went.
I told my friend that he shouldn't take their struggles as serious, because they are women and they will visit therapists for the smallest of issues. Unlike guys, guys like us, that wouldn't do such a thing.
My friend got mad at me for talking shit about his female friends, told me they cry all the time and they have it much harder than men. That life is stacked against women and there's far more pressure on women than men. That his female friends are dealing with pressure to settle-down in a relationship already at 26yo, while we as guys don't have any of that. That they are discriminated against professionally for being women and they tell him this. That feminism hasn't gone far enough yet and we need 'positive discrimination' against men, put women in power, to counter the sexism that women face. Etc this kinda stuff.
During this the other friend was mostly silent and didn't participate much in the conversation. Anyways I ended the conversation here because things were getting heated. The vibe/mood was kinda ruined for the rest of the day for all of us. Untill we talked it through shortly while we were on XTC at a rave, apologized for misunderstandings, etc. Things were good after that, but I definitely feel a barrier between us, a rift since then.
He started a conversation about women/feminism again the next day with the other friend. I said: yeah I am not joining this convo, cya guys later.
We haven't talked much anymore since Berlin.
I am not good friends with him anymore tbh. It's over.
Anyways my other friend, the one that was also in Berlin. He was sorta mediating between us back then, didn't really take a stance. Still talk to him regularly.
We had a few hours of conversation yesterday, because of a girl (typical). He has been in the friendzone of this hot JB for years now while she was in a relationship. Their relationship broke off, he waited to make a move till she was going to be over her ex. Turns out she didn't need any time to get over him and started hoeing around immediately. Telling my friendzoned friend about the guys she's fucking. He got pissed and made a move, got rejected and their friendship ended too.
He was asking me about advice on what to do, how to get over her, if he did anything wrong, etc.
I was caging inside since it's just so typical female behavior, but I didn't say anything, didn't judge the girl he is/was in love with.
I found myself giving bluepilled advice to him, unlike the typical red/blackpills I spill out to him. I am just not interested in confrontation for telling people the truth anymore? Probably cuz of the confrontation in Berlin.
Woke up today thinking about this shit during my morning coffee and decided to write this essay.
I am questioning whether my relationship with this guy is anything more than superficial at this point, if I can't be myself and have to censor my real thoughts with you. At that point you're just another schmuck to me with no other value than what you bring to the table in terms of social status/experiences/jokes/knowledge, etc.
At that point I have to play a role, an act, around you just like I have to around my colleagues, girls I am dating, strangers, etc.
I think I lost my last friend. They're both just acquintainces now.
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