Low Effort Rant / Advice on Surgical intervention Bs

[patheticcurry]

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SPOILER FOR DISGUSTING SIDE PROFILE

I genuinely hate this world. I wasn't meant to live the life i am right now. Every night i dream of passing on in the hopes my soul moves on to a greater plane of existence where looks don't define every facet of your being. Unfortunately, I keep waking up in this god forsaken body anyways , so im stuck in hell if i can't find a way to fix my life.

Im already 5'9.5" and deathnic which puts me in the bottom 5% in the dating market alone. My only redeeming qualities are my above average frame & proportions, along with somewhat tolerable facial features.

I've come to terms with being subhuman honestly, but even if its over for me I can still try to fix my health

I have an extremely narrow, vaulted palate (38mm-26mm back to front). + inward gonions & a 4-6 tooth smile. My tongue physically doesn't fit in my mouth sometimes. I have a deviated septum + a dust and pollen allergy that's essentially forced me to mouth breathe due to being untreated (retarded immigrant parents) and what im assuming is likely the root cause of all of my problems.

Im so unbelievably recessed you can see my eyes bugging out from my skull due to the complete and utter lack of forward growth/undereye support.

now, im aware that marpe + lefort would ascend just about anyone, but am i just retarded to believe that this could legitimately fix my whole life?

Even if the aesthetic improvements are a minor bump, im more so hopeful for any meaningful

 

[patheticcurry]

Title was supposed to be Surgical Intervention Vs. Suicide but whatever

 

[them streets b cold]

society done beat u down son, look at the thick glasses from studycelling, the sad eyes from obeying for too long, curry is not the problem, the problem is in ur head

 

[patheticcurry]

society done beat u down son, look at the thick glasses from studycelling, the sad eyes from obeying for too long, curry is not the problem, the problem is in ur head

society let me believe that if i studied hard enough, i could succeed. Now i know my life was over the moment I was born. Im just meant to be some worthless wageslave working in some sweatshop, I wasn't meant to see the light of day, knowing i could never achieve it.

 

[them streets b cold]

society let me believe that if i studied hard enough, i could succeed. Now i know my life was over the moment I was born. Im just meant to be some worthless wageslave working in some sweatshop, I wasn't meant to see the light of day, knowing i could never achieve it.

nothing is impossible it's never too late

 

[newtothis_]

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SPOILER FOR DISGUSTING SIDE PROFILE

I genuinely hate this world. I wasn't meant to live the life i am right now. Every night i dream of passing on in the hopes my soul moves on to a greater plane of existence where looks don't define every facet of your being. Unfortunately, I keep waking up in this god forsaken body anyways , so im stuck in hell if i can't find a way to fix my life.

Im already 5'9.5" and deathnic which puts me in the bottom 5% in the dating market alone. My only redeeming qualities are my above average frame & proportions, along with somewhat tolerable facial features.

I've come to terms with being subhuman honestly, but even if its over for me I can still try to fix my health

I have an extremely narrow, vaulted palate (38mm-26mm back to front). + inward gonions & a 4-6 tooth smile. My tongue physically doesn't fit in my mouth sometimes. I have a deviated septum + a dust and pollen allergy that's essentially forced me to mouth breathe due to being untreated (retarded immigrant parents) and what im assuming is likely the root cause of all of my problems.

Im so unbelievably recessed you can see my eyes bugging out from my skull due to the complete and utter lack of forward growth/undereye support.

now, im aware that marpe + lefort would ascend just about anyone, but am i just retarded to believe that this could legitimately fix my whole life?

Even if the aesthetic improvements are a minor bump, im more so hopeful for any meaningful

you have a mad greasy forehead wash your face a few times a day

 

[vermicel]

am i just retarded to believe that this could legitimately fix my whole life?

Yes, you are.

If we're talking strictly about aesthetics :
on its own, MARPE will generate negligible facial improvement ; with adjunctive orthodontics, your smile will probably improve to a significant extent, and that's about it.
A LeFort 1 may not be advised or necessary in your particular case. Your side profile picture is cropped above the area that would be affected by this procedure, so we can't really tell you more.

Anyway, based on the front profile picture you have provided, you would need many other procedures to look decent. Pheno & coloring are likely to hardcap you (in the West). So set your expectations accordingly. At the end of the day, only you can determine what's a good risk to reward ratio and if going through a lenghty looksmaxxing process is worth it or not.

Softmaxxes :
> try to improve your skin tone by all (reasonable) means possible
> clear your skin and refine its texture (tazarotene)
> improve your hair style ; I think you should not conceal your eyebrows, unless they are non-existent. Healthy head & facial hair is perhaps the biggest asset of your ethnic group, so make the most of it.
> try other eyeglasses. If you've got money, look up Japanese brands like Matsuda, Masunaga, KameManNen, Yellow Plus, Kaneko, Eyevan, etc. ; if you want statement glasses, look up Jacques Marie Mage.

Hardmaxxes :
> ptosis repair
> peri-orbital fat grafting
> maybe infraorbital implant
> maybe laser to get rid of hyperpigmentation around the eyes
> septorhinoplasty, including alar plasty (the alae should align with the medial canthi)
> lip lift to shorten your philtrum
> lower lip reduction
> filler in the gonions (e.g. Juvederm Volux) ; alternatively, gonial implants

Ethicsmaxxes :
> respect yourself
> respect your parents
> respect your ancestors and lineage
> go back to India and marry within your ethnic group, assuming traditions like arranged marriage still hold up well

The morph at the top of this post roughly illustrates the effects of most softmaxxes & hardmaxxes listed above.

 

[patheticcurry]

you have a mad greasy forehead wash your face a few times a day

promise i do lmao - using 4% hydroquinone and .05 tazarotene + a pretty consistent routine nightly and an spf100 every morning before going outside. then tbf its only been a few weeks on this stuff and its a noticeable improvement compared to my skin before.

 

[patheticcurry]

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Yes, you are.

If we're talking strictly about aesthetics :
on its own, MARPE will generate negligible facial improvement ; with adjunctive orthodontics, your smile will probably improve to a significant extent, and that's about it.
A LeFort 1 may not be advised or necessary in your particular case. Your side profile picture is cropped above the area that would be affected by this procedure, so we can't really tell you more.

Anyway, based on the front profile picture you have provided, you would need many other procedures to look decent. Pheno & coloring are likely to hardcap you (in the West). So set your expectations accordingly. At the end of the day, only you can determine what's a good risk to reward ratio and if going through a lenghty looksmaxxing process is worth it or not.

Softmaxxes :
> try to improve your skin tone by all (reasonable) means possible
> clear your skin and refine its texture (tazarotene)
> improve your hair style ; I think you should not conceal your eyebrows, unless they are non-existent. Healthy head & facial hair is perhaps the biggest asset of your ethnic group, so make the most of it.
> try other eyeglasses. If you've got money, look up Japanese brands like Matsuda, Masunaga, KameManNen, Yellow Plus, Kaneko, Eyevan, etc. ; if you want statement glasses, look up Jacques Marie Mage.

Hardmaxxes :
> ptosis repair
> peri-orbital fat grafting
> maybe infraorbital implant
> maybe laser to get rid of hyperpigmentation around the eyes
> septorhinoplasty, including alar plasty (the alae should align with the medial canthi)
> lip lift to shorten your philtrum
> lower lip reduction
> filler in the gonions (e.g. Juvederm Volux) ; alternatively, gonial implants

Ethicsmaxxes :
> respect yourself
> respect your parents
> respect your ancestors and lineage
> go back to India and marry within your ethnic group, assuming traditions like arranged marriage still hold up well

The morph at the top of this post roughly illustrates the effects of most softmaxxes & hardmaxxes listed above.

fair enough man. I really try to be a good person and love my parents, i do with all my heart. I just hate the system i was born into, and would've much rather I be born into blissful ignorance, and live a self fulfilling life without having to worry about problems & social structures bigger than my understanding.

As for the list of procedures you've listed it seems like you know what you're talking about, and its definitely not my place to question any of your suggestions.

Im currently using Tazarotene .05 + hydroquinone 4%, with noticeable improvement compared to my younger years.

I do have fairly full eyebrows, although they are nothing nonstandard, above or below average. They are fairly angular, which im not sure helps or weakens my overall harmony.

Despite my hair being healthy and full, my hairline is naturally higher up (its been like that since a young age) so I got used to covering it up with my hair.

as for the full picture of my side profile, i genuinely couldn't look at it so i cropped it. heres the rest (i've also included other side profiles from slightly different angles and levels of bloat + bf% over the past few months of my life to give you more to reference)

for reference, i am at a fair level of bf% and bloat in this picture, so take this with a grain of salt. Does this change any of your opinions on previous comments? would it further encourage or disprove any specific procedures? etc etc.

I appreciate all of your effort thus far, and i apologize for the low-class rage post above. Im just tired.