Low ESR > High ESR

Defying ESR Copes

((water thread but kind of necessary))​

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed dimo-related ratio.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. This is exactly why foids with low ESR look absolutely disgusting. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, compared to prey, such as deer or bunnies:

Predator Pattern:

(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:

​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier. If he had the dolphin equivalent of that ESR, he would look syndromic, and would be rotting on .is), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dystrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high ESR is law”, they just sound braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; I just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

 

[Deleted member 240873]

Just say your esr is low g

 

[Sadist]

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[confirmgy]

((water thread but kind of necessary))

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed assessment.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4638572
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL
of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, as compared to prey, such as deer:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dustrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high esr is law”, they just look braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; i just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

Insane cope. A low esr indicates a narrow maxilla which is a death tier flaw. High esr (e.g Marlon) is more dimorphic, and your predator / prey analogy doesn’t work

 

[Sadist]

Insane cope. A low esr indicates a narrow maxilla which is a death tier flaw. High esr (e.g Marlon) is more dimorphic, and your predator / prey analogy doesn’t work

get off the forum please

 

[Deleted member 240873]

But I kinda agree, I feel like I see more very gl faces with it trending lower
Personally I still like faces with it a lil higher aswell tho
But I think deviations in both directions as long as they aren't extreme aren't that big of a deal when they aren't highlighted by other things

 

[Sadist]

But I kinda agree, I feel like I see more very gl faces with it trending lower
Personally I still like faces with it a lil higher aswell tho
But I think deviation in both directions as long as they aren't extreme aren't that big of a deal when they aren't highlighted by other things

true, but even though you lose the same amount of points from harmony, you gain dimo if you move towards lower, and therefore lose dimo as you move towards higher

 

[Sadist]

@Sayori

 

[Sayori]

((water thread but kind of necessary))

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed assessment.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4638572
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL
of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, as compared to prey, such as deer:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dustrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high esr is law”, they just look braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; i just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

Dnr

will read and comment my opinion

 

[Sayori]

((water thread but kind of necessary))

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed assessment.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4638572
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL
of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, as compared to prey, such as deer:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dustrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high esr is law”, they just look braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; i just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

High esr look like aliens it's so damm weird

jfl at having a high esr

mirin effort

 

[alexias]

Agreed

((water thread but kind of necessary))

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed assessment.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4638572
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL
of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, as compared to prey, such as deer:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dustrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high esr is law”, they just look braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; i just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

 

[Menas]

((water thread but kind of necessary))

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed assessment.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. This is exactly why foids with low ESR look absolutely disgusting. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4638572
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL
of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, as compared to prey, such as deer:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dustrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high esr is law”, they just look braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; i just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

does this mean it's not over for me?

 

[Sadist]

does this mean it's not over for me?

indeed

 

[unknownfatcel]

Bump

 

[Orka]

((water thread but kind of necessary))

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed assessment.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. This is exactly why foids with low ESR look absolutely disgusting. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4638572
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL
of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, as compared to prey, such as deer:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dustrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high esr is law”, they just look braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; i just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

ratios don't matter when ur dating life is thriving

u mog

 

[Dezzy]

ratios don't matter when ur dating life is thriving

u mog

i can relate to this JFL although my esr is slightly close set not horrible

 

[Sadist]

ratios don't matter when ur dating life is thriving

u mog

thanks bro, but my dating life is thriving BECAUSE im clops

 

[Sadist]

@ueeslayer

 

[Troo_]

View attachment 4639341
Defying ESR Copes

((water thread but kind of necessary))​

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed dimo-related ratio.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. This is exactly why foids with low ESR look absolutely disgusting. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4639042
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, compared to prey, such as deer or bunnies:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier. If he had the dolphin equivalent of that ESR, he would look syndromic, and would be rotting on .is), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dystrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high ESR is law”, they just sound braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; I just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

? Ideal esr>>

 

[valentine]

A low esr indicates a narrow maxilla

lol

 

[valentine]

good thread
compact midface is shit too

 

[Veridic]

@ueeslayer

​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.

That one was a bit personal

Nice thread though

 

[Sadist]

That one was a bit personal

you’re not going around screaming that dolphin is law so you’re good bhai

you’re a mogger anyways

and thanks

 

[Sadist]

? Ideal esr>>

well duh

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Whats your esr

 

[Sirius★]

perfect esr> both

 

[ryze1x]

Whats your esr

how much diff is esr than ipd ik wht each mean but can u have like high esr with low ipd or am i jus an iqlet

 

[VampyrMaxx]

View attachment 4639341
Defying ESR Copes

((water thread but kind of necessary))​

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed dimo-related ratio.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. This is exactly why foids with low ESR look absolutely disgusting. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4639042
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, compared to prey, such as deer or bunnies:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier. If he had the dolphin equivalent of that ESR, he would look syndromic, and would be rotting on .is), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dystrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high ESR is law”, they just sound braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; I just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

Just be 65mm IPD, 33mm ICD, and 14.3cm bizygomatic width broooooooo.

 

[realshit]

View attachment 4639341
Defying ESR Copes

((water thread but kind of necessary))​

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed dimo-related ratio.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. This is exactly why foids with low ESR look absolutely disgusting. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4639042
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, compared to prey, such as deer or bunnies:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier. If he had the dolphin equivalent of that ESR, he would look syndromic, and would be rotting on .is), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dystrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high ESR is law”, they just sound braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; I just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

lifefuel for 0.43 esr cel , i wish i could repost thread

 

[Sadist]

Whats your esr

42.9 but i think the pic i did my harmony on was distorted bc mirror

perfect esr> both

no shit

how much diff is esr than ipd ik wht each mean but can u have like high esr with low ipd or am i jus an iqlet

ipd is a component of esr

lifefuel for 0.43 esr cel , i wish i could repost thread

real shit

 

[ReccesedSlavic]

View attachment 4639341
Defying ESR Copes

((water thread but kind of necessary))​

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed dimo-related ratio.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. This is exactly why foids with low ESR look absolutely disgusting. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4639042
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, compared to prey, such as deer or bunnies:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier. If he had the dolphin equivalent of that ESR, he would look syndromic, and would be rotting on .is), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dystrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high ESR is law”, they just sound braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; I just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

Low ESR here

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

View attachment 4639341
Defying ESR Copes

((water thread but kind of necessary))​

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed dimo-related ratio.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. This is exactly why foids with low ESR look absolutely disgusting. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4639042
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, compared to prey, such as deer or bunnies:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier. If he had the dolphin equivalent of that ESR, he would look syndromic, and would be rotting on .is), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dystrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high ESR is law”, they just sound braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; I just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

Good thread

 

[Org3cel]

true, but even though you lose the same amount of points from harmony, you gain dimo if you move towards lower, and therefore lose dimo as you move towards higher

OBO is still risky to this day sadly, Maybe in the future Ill consider it tbh.
Brutal wide eyes pill

 

[Sadist]

OBO is still risky to this day sadly, Maybe in the future Ill consider it tbh.
Brutal wide eyes pill

it’s not THAT risky with the right planning and surgeon tbh, it’s more about the effort ngl

 

[MacBurger]

View attachment 4639341
Defying ESR Copes

((water thread but kind of necessary))​

Anyone who says that they would rather have ESR too high than too low is a gay low T retard. Let me explain why.

There is this one (out of 4) aspect of looks is something called “Dimorphism”

Dimorphism is very crucial (and often overlooked) when it comes to facial attractiveness. High Harmony paired with high Dimorphism is a VERY strong combination.

Now this “Dimorphism” is partially (and probably primarily) determined by ratios. Almost every single facial measurement has a dimorphic end and a non-dimorphic end.

Now ESR is a massively overlooked determinant of dimorphism, as it quite literally is a make or break when it comes to that. On the anterior plane, I would say it is THE highest-weighed dimo-related ratio.

And that is for a good reason:

Females tend to have (far) higher ESR than males. This is exactly why foids with low ESR look absolutely disgusting. If you use your brain for a split second, and compare any male and female ideal ranges of any measurement, you will easily be able to tell which end of any ratio/angle is dimorphic - and which is not.

Visual Example with ESR:
(CA data)

View attachment 4639042
(also notice how much tighter the female range is)

Now, focusing on just ESR, let me provide you with a visual example of why it is that way:

View attachment 4638617View attachment 4638618
(rapidly switch between these two pictures of me)
​

Both are Tier 2, but it is very easy to tell which face looks more masculine, and which one, in turn, looks more feminine.

IPD is also very closely tied with the Midface Ratio, EME, IAA and ICD. The same range principle applies for them as well, with lower IPD making ALL of those ratios shift to the more dimorphic end (excl. ICD and IAA, but they tend to follow along).

Now, this is a pattern seen everywhere in nature. Predators such as felines and canines (especially the hunting ones) have low ESR, compared to prey, such as deer or bunnies:

Predator Pattern:
View attachment 4638635View attachment 4638637
(I was SO tempted to include an Epstein joke here)

Prey Pattern:
View attachment 4638641View attachment 4638643
​

So with all of that said, I would kindly request all the dolphin copers trying to claim otherwise, to fuck right off to the operating table.
I would unironically argue that it’s actually way more worth getting OBO for high ESR, than for low ESR, when they can be in the exact same Tier, even including extreme examples (look at that .39 ESR ogre bagging Lima (yes, he had halos going for him too, bur that ESR is fucking death tier. If he had the dolphin equivalent of that ESR, he would look syndromic, and would be rotting on .is), as opposed to kids from case studies, with similar deviations to Jarić, but towards the opposite end, being forced to get OBO because of how (unfortunately) retarded they look, even as far as having that shit labelled as craniofacial dystrophy (rightfully so). ALL public OBO cases for said craniofacial dystrophy have been performed on turbo dolphins, never on turbo cyclopses).
(inb4 @RealSurgerymax no need to thank me for upping your OBO client base)

Now this doesn’t mean that dolphins don’t deserve to live, but when people go on about “muh high ESR is law”, they just sound braindead.

P.S. I myself am a cyclops, but this thread is neither biased (provided all proof included), nor have I been prompted to write it due to some argument; I just felt like it.

@Menas @curryascenderr @coispet @h76

Worst thread possible for me and my high esr and low dimo face 🫩🫩🫩

 

[pfl]

Insane cope. A low esr indicates a narrow maxilla which is a death tier flaw. High esr (e.g Marlon) is more dimorphic, and your predator / prey analogy doesn’t work

High esr is feminine as women have higher esrs, and the most dimorphic chads have lower ideal esr

 

[Genio]

Why do I always find threads like these a month after theyve been posted smh